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    MO - Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 Oct 2011 - #9

    An AMBER Alert was issued for 10-month-old Lisa Irwin on Tuesday, October 4th after she was abducted from her crib during the early morning hours. As of today (Thursday), no suspects have been identified, and the AMBER Alert has been canceled.
    Lisa is 10 months old. She has blue eyes and blonde hair. She is 30 inches tall and weighs between 26 and 30 pounds. Lisa was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with white kittens on it.
    Lisa is described as having two bottom teeth, a small bug bite under her left ear, a beauty mark on her right outer thigh and currently has a cold with a cough.

    Anyone with information is asked to call 9-1-1, your local police agency, or the Kansas City TIPS Hotline at 816-474-8477.



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    Please remember the rules. We are not sleuthing random people. Mom and Dad only. We are not talking about parentage or anything else regarding any of the children.
    Follow MSM lead and don't accuse anyone not named in MSM as a suspect.
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    Police Interviewing Missing Baby's Parents

    http://www.kmbc.com/news/29428139/de...110082011&ts=H

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    Teen neighbor questioned, DNA sample taken, article from this a.m.:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-bab...ry?id=14695496
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    AHA! http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-brad...,1316565.story (Reporter David Dunn)

    Debbie Netz Bradley IS still married to her first husband.

    There WAS an impediment to immediate marriage of JI and DN
    Oh... oh... I want to say something!

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    KCTV5_6AM Alex Spearman
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    @NimaKCTV5 is outside the house right now. He's talking with @kcpolice . Working to confirm CSI involvement.
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    Have a feeling there will be a resolution to this baby's disappearance very soon...MOO

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    The alerts are supposed to be used early in an investigation to warn the area about a child’s disappearance. Mr. B, who lives near Lisa’s home, said his son bought a car from the missing child’s father a year ago. Mr. B said he often would see the mother and her child as he walked around the neighborhood. “I would see them sitting out there on the front steps,” Mr.B said. “I would wave to them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by belimom View Post
    Oh... oh... I want to say something!

    Say it, woman, lol! (unless it will get you a time out )

    I'm intrigued that the reporter summed up his spot with saying that mom has a "chequered past", and would have more details tonight at 10... What other details does he have?!
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    Steve Young just stated "we still don't have any suspects" on TV. So that indicates they don't consider parent(s) suspect I take it.
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    @KrisColvin ... but "no suspects" does not mean detectives aren't pursuing their own theories based on what they have so far.
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    @KrisColvin no suspects means no suspects. You are right.
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    AmyKCTV5 Amy Anderson
    The lines of communication are open once again...between KCMO police and Lisa Irwin's parents. Detectives are with them now. #LisaIrwin
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    PeterAlexander Peter Alexander
    #LisaIrwin parents meeting once again w/ #KansasCity PD detectives as we speak. #missingbaby
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    http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-brad...,1316565.story

    The reporter says they will have more on Ms. Bradley's (mom) checkered past at 10. Her past regarding issues between her and her husband.
    I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it left.


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    I think the 2:30 call has somehow been traced to the teen. Just a hunch. If I am wrong it sure won't be the first time, or the last.
    "Curiosity killed the cat, but for a while I was a suspect" Steven Wright

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    Thank you, Coldpizza, for your kind remarks on the previous page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gardenlady View Post
    Say it, woman, lol! (unless it will get you a time out )

    I'm intrigued that the reporter summed up his spot with saying that mom has a "chequered past", and would have more details tonight at 10... What other details does he have?!
    Me too! I wonder if the details might be domestic incidents? Perhaps something like that, that would be public record?
    I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it left.


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    Lisa Irwin Timeline

    A few good news/video links:

    http://www.fox4kc.com/videobeta/1276...er-Cooperating

    http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/new...#ixzz1a7YeLYOn

    http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_...#ixzz1ZpbdtyLg

    Monday October 3, 2011

    Abducted by intruder through bedroom window. Far right window of house.

    UPDATE—according to police spokesman window may not be correct.

    3620 block of North Lister 64117

    CORRECTION TO ABOVE GIVEN BY JEREMY IN PHONE INTERVIEW 10-6-2011

    Lisa in bed at 7:30 p.m. Debbie in bed at 10:30 after checking on Lisa. 6 year old son slept with Debbie in parents room. Point of entry by abductor was unlocked front door, window mentioned earlier was NOT tampered with.
    Irwin, an electrician, said he returned from work around 4 a.m. Tuesday and discovered Lisa was missing. Bradley said she last checked on the child around 10:30 p.m., then fell asleep in her bed with her 6-year-old son and a stray kitten they found earlier in the day.

    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...ri_toddler_lis a_irwin_in_kansas_landfill_for_a_.html#ixzz1aDuFH5 lM

    Tuesday October 4, 2011 3:30 a.m. (first report stated it was 4:00 a.m.) Father returns home from work and discovered baby missing from crib. http://www.ky3.com/news/ky3-100-offi...,3181219.story


    UPDATE 10-6-11 3 cell phones also taken. One does not even work. Also, dad came home to find front door unlocked, most of the lights on and front window open.

    Jeremy Irwin, Lisa’s father, told local media that whoever took his daughter also took all three of their cell phones so they couldn’t call anybody, including 911.

    Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/06...#ixzz1a1QJj8XG


    ~one of the cell phones did not work.. all three were on the counter and she was in the midst of reprogramming them/putting numbers into them

    ~phones were gone

    ~she did not notice if anything else was taken.. all she cares about is that the baby was gone.

    ~she grabbed the boys and went out into the yard and flagged down LE when they pulled into the yard

    ~she said nothing else appeared to be missing but she does not know

    (thank you NBM)

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    Other two sons asleep in different bedrooms. (sons are half brothers to Lisa-the 6 year old is Debbie’s and the 8 year old is Jeremy’s from previous relationships.)—Correction. One son—the 6 year old was asleep with the mom and a stray kitten he had found earlier in the day.

    Father is electrician that works nights. This night was the first night he EVER worked at night.—Jeremy http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/miss...olice-14688735

    Mother is a SAHM--Debbie

    Monday October 3, 2011 10:00 p.m. Last seen in crib wearing purple shorts and purple shirt with white kittens on it.

    **Possibly seen by Mr. Parscale (a man that lives in the area) according to his wife Lisa around 12:00 a.m. Tuesday wearing only a diaper being carried by a male. Quote from Lisa--“He seen the guy act like he was going to go into a residence,” Parscale said, “but then my husband drove off so we’re thinking that maybe he was just doing that so that my husband would leave.”

    **Parscale says her husband saw the man walking on a street perpendicular to North Lister, where Lisa Irwin lives with her parents and brothers.


    Tuesday October 4, 2011 3:30 a.m. (first report stated it was 4:00 a.m.) Father returns home from work and discovered baby missing from crib. Father calls 911 around 4:04 a.m.

    UPDATE at 2:00 p.m. October 4 presser Capt. Steve Young speaking—Parents’ story has no holes. Looking into neighbor that possibly saw Lisa being carried by the male. No suspects other than neighbor sighting.

    Tuesday October 4, 2011 approx. 7:00 p.m. amber alert cancelled. Lisa is considered a MISSING/ENDANGERED JUVENILE. Per police the alert has served it’s purpose. Police and dogs will search for a while into the night.

    *** Tuesday night authorities searched a van and car at the home. There is no word on what police found or were looking for. Officers searching for the child focused on areas near the family's home such as railroad tracks near the north side of the Missouri River and a wooded area behind the home. http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-auth...,6273053.story

    Tuesday 9:25 p.m.

    Mass exodus of police from the command center. Looks like K-9's are finished searching for the night. Police search will continue in AM
    by cliffjudy via twitter 9:25 P
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    **family stayed with relatives after being questioned until 10:30 p.m.

    Wednesday October 5, 2011

    9:00 a.m. press conference Capt. Steve Young speaking—basically no new information. Still searching with dogs, however there have been no hits. Parents not ruled out, but also not suspects. Very cooperative.

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    ** KMBC's Jana Corrie: Children who were also inside the home at the time of the disappearance staying with neighbors

    Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_...#ixzz1ZvPzisbv

    **conflicting reports…unless the Grandparents are being referred to as “neighbors”


    NBC Action News reporter Sloane Heller reports Lisa’s grandparents are watching the couple’s other children and have not been able to reach them since earlier Tuesday.

    Read more: http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/new...#ixzz1ZvXO4Yxz
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    Next news conference sometime this afternoon.
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    2:00 news conference—Jeremy spoke with Deborah (Bradley?) by his side. Begged for baby to be dropped off somewhere safe. The brothers are waiting to see their sister. Declined to take questions.

    Again, Capt. Has no leads, not ruling out anything. 300 knocks and searches. 46 tips. No ransom note. Family is free to go where they would like. Family does not want to be at house.
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    **Alleged sighting of Lisa with a middle aged white male and female at a Love’s gas station in St. Joseph, MO I-29 and US HWY 169. Driving older model SUV. Article came out around 5:15 p.m. Surveillance video has been turned over to LE. Police say it doesn’t seem to be a major lead.


    Thursday October 6, 2011


    **Jeremy and Debbie provided LE with a list of 9 names of people that could be possible suspects.

    **Per Debbie regarding cell phones and possible other missing items:
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    ~one of the cell phones did not work.. all three were on the counter and she was in the midst of reprogramming them/putting numbers into them

    ~phones were gone

    ~she did not notice if anything else was taken.. all she cares about is that the baby was gone.

    ~she grabbed the boys and went out into the yard and flagged down LE when they pulled into the yard

    ~she said nothing else appeared to be missing but she does not know

    (thank you NBM)
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    http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_...g_10-Month-Old

    ** police detectives are meeting early this morning to talk about where to search next.

    **per Debbie, “Lisa is very sweet and will go to almost anybody.”

    **per Jeremy, window was not tampered with, so perp (s) must have come in through unlocked front door.

    **Lisa went to bed at 7:30 p.m. Debbie went to bed at 10:30 after checking on Lisa. 5 year old son slept with Debbie in parents room.

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    ***Debbie and Jeremy have a heated discussion with LE before speeding off in police car to command center to find out about possible new lead. http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-lisa...,5671503.story

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    **the list of suspects provided by the parents is now up to 12.---suspects all cleared
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    Capt. Young: "the mother and father no longer want to cooperate with detectives."

    Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_...#ixzz1a391r9l4

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    Originally Posted by BeanE [IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Melissa/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/msohtml1/01/clip_image001.gif[/IMG] --thank you BeanE
    Capt. Young: "There is no doubt they informed us that they no longer wish to cooperate with the investigation."
    by Brian Foster - KMBC.com... 8:05 PM

    Capt. Young: "We have no plans to close the command center yet, but it will close at some point."
    by Brian Foster - KMBC.com... 8:04 PM

    Capt. Young: "I don't have to illustrate how their lack of cooperation hurts the investigation."by Brian Foster - KMBC.com... 8:03 PM

    Capt. Young: "I cannot get into the details of the investigation."
    by Brian Foster - KMBC.com... 8:03 PM

    Capt. Young: "the mother and father no longer want to cooperate with detectives."by Brian Foster - KMBC.com... 8:02 PM

    Capt. Young: "We don't have any suspect. If we had enough to charge anyone with, we'd probably be pursuing charges."
    by Brian Foster - KMBC.com... 8:02 PM

    Capt. Young: "We don't have any suspects. From an investigative standpoint we've enjoyed their cooperation"
    by Brian Foster - KMBC.com... 8:02 PM

    Capt. Young": The parents have intimate information as to what's been going on...our door is open and it doesn't help that they are no longer cooperating"
    by Brian Foster - KMBC.com... 8:02 PM

    Capt. Young: "They've always been free and cooperative up until this point, but they've decided to stop cooperating"
    by Brian Foster - KMBC.com... 8:01 PM

    Capt. Steve Young: Mother and father of baby Lisa Irwin have stopped cooperating with police
    by Brian Foster - KMBC.com... 8:01 PM


    http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_...#ixzz1a39rwETg


    "This evening we will be shutting down the command post. We believe we have done all we can regarding geographic searches and will continue tracking leads as we get them or develop additional information," police Officer Darin Snapp said in a news release.

    Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_...#ixzz1a3JybPqG

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    Family statement: We saw the press conference at 7 PM, and we want you to know we have never stopped cooperating with police.
    by Brian Foster - KMBC.com... 9:11 PM

    Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_...#ixzz1a3m5ocP3


    Friday October 7, 2011
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    (thank you BeanE for gathering these)
    #LisaIrwin's mom:We want to thank everybody who has helped us so far.
    1 minute ago

    #LisaIrwin's mom: we are not angry, we just want our daughter home, that's all we care about.
    2 minutes ago

    #LisaIrwin's mom: we appreciate everything the police dept. has done, we appreciate everything everybody has done.
    2 minutes ago

    #LisaIrwin mom: we don't know, which is why we need everybody to continue to look for her...because we want her home, we can't do this alone
    21 seconds ago

    #LisaIrwin's mom: "he's a good father and he's good to me and he loves her and everybody loves her, but no, there's no way." (about father)
    38 seconds ago

    #LisaIrwin's dad: hasn't taken polygraph but "if that's what it takes..."
    3 minutes ago

    #LisaIrwin's mom: "what do you say when someone tells you that and you know you didn't do anything."
    4 minutes ago

    #LisaIrwin's mom: volunteered to take polygraph, told failed. Says that's not possible.
    4 minutes ago

    #LisaIrwin's mom: We don't care what anybody thinks, we don't care what they think, our concern is to find Lisa, our Lisa.
    5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

    #LisaIrwin's Mom: don't have hard feelings, not mad, this is what they (police) have to do.
    5 minutes ago

    #LisaIrwin's Mom: police really nice yesterday, not like that the first time.
    6 minutes ago

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    **Debbie failed LDT. Jeremy has offered, but LE said it’s not necessary.
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    Floor plan of Debbie and Jeremy’s home (thank you Carriebean)


    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/att...0&d=1317999122
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    **a neighbor in the area also had her dog come up missing the same night. (maybe related, maybe not)
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    http://ap.onlineathens.com/pstories/...96530303.shtml
    **FBI cleared all the people that Jeremy and Debbie mentioned as possible suspects.

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    PER FOX NEWS REPORT AT 12:00 P.M.
    ***Call made from Irwin home at 2:30 a.m.—I can’t find anything else about this, so regard as rumor.

    **Debbie failed the LDT “MISERABLY”

    ** Jeremy at work constructing a new Starbucks (company? All Current Electric)
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    **Per the great grandfather (see the end of the following video at the 1:16 mark)

    The GGFather then says "they are supposed to...with their lawyer offer some kind of statement to the press at a later time...(-00:19)

    Then the reporter then says "...as you just heard, the couple has now hired a lawyer .....

    http://www.fox4kc.com/videobeta/1276...er-Cooperating

    Thank you to Hazel for finding this!
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    ***ANONYMOUS TIP—LE searching Shawnee Kansas landfill.


    http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/new...#ixzz1a7YeLYOn


    **FBI: This is the second time they've searched the JOCO landfill. The first was Tuesday - hours after #LisaIrwin was reported missing.
    10 minutes ago


    **Searching landfill----possible connection to a dumpster fire at 4897 NE 37 st at 2:27 a.m. Tuesday, October 4. Dumpster less than ˝ mile from Irwin home. Trash from fire been examined twice. http://www.fox4kc.com/news/wdaf-poli...,5538504.story


    #LisaIrwin update: FBI not saying what, if anything, found at landfill.
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    **searching using metal detectors behind the Irwin house.

    ** possible sighting in California
    http://www.kmbc.com/r/29420106/detail.html

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    Thanks to BeanE:

    CliffJudy Cliff Judy
    #LisaIrwin prayer vigil beginning now. http://img.ly/9bGB
    12 minutes ago

    CliffJudy Cliff Judy
    I also asked #LisaIrwin's aunt if she or family members were getting any sleep. She said, "Not a wink."
    38 minutes ago

    CliffJudy Cliff Judy
    Walking around P&L District with #LisaIrwin's aunt as she passes out fliers with Lisa's picture.
    1 hour ago

    CliffJudy Cliff Judy
    Talked briefly off camera with #LisaIrwin's aunt last night. Asked how her brother (Lisa's dad) was holding up. "He's a wreck."
    4 hours ago

    CliffJudy Cliff Judy
    About to head out to 6pm missing person flyer hanging & 9pm prayer vigil for #LisaIrwin. Family plans to attend both.
    4 hours ago

    CliffJudy Cliff Judy
    #LisaIrwin RT @itsvann @CliffJudy Prayer vigil location has changed to Penguin Park off of Vivion Rd @ 9pm
    5 hours ago

    LindsayShively Lindsay Shively
    Just watched a 'nat'l media crew' tape a missing poster to a tree, shoot it then take it down. Not ok. Not journalism.
    9 hours ago

    CliffJudy Cliff Judy
    Family statement denied what police are saying, brought focus back to #LisaIrwin, and even thanked PD. Another statement planned tomorrow.
    20 hours ago

    CliffJudy Cliff Judy
    What does latest in #LisaIrwin case mean? PD strategy: pressure parents. At very least, KCPD thinks parents not as forthcoming as possible.
    20 hours ago


    Cliff Judy
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    Reporter for KMBC 9 in Kansas City.
    http://twitter.com/#!/CliffJudy

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    Saturday October 8, 2011

    Re-cap—everyone cleared except for Debbie

    http://articles.boston.com/2011-10-0...ice-landfill/2

    **Possible new lead. Teenage neighbor being questioned. Also, DNA taken from teen. Neighbor was home the day Lisa disappeared and also knew the code to get into the garage.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-bab...ry?id=14695496
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    Tweets (thank you BeanE)

    CliffJudy Cliff Judy
    #LisaIrwin's family says parents unavailable right now, but still hoping to talk today. Again, stay tuned.
    32 minutes ago

    CliffJudy Cliff Judy
    Was supposed to do 1-on-1 interview with #LisaIrwin's parents at 11:00 (scheduled talks with all stations). Family's not here. Stay tuned.
    34 minutes ago

    CliffJudy Cliff Judy
    Got call from #LisaIrwin's family this morning. Upset media still reporting no cooperation with PD. Says they talked to feds, PD 2x yest
    57 minutes ago

    Cliff Judy
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    **Parents agree to meet with police today

    Debbie Bradley and Jeremy Irwin had agreed to conduct a 10 a.m. interview Saturday with KCTV5 about the disappearance of their daughter, Lisa Irwin.
    The interview was abruptly canceled because the parents had agreed to meet with detectives to talk about the disappearance of baby Lisa, a family spokesman told KCTV5.
    This comes after police on Thursday had said Irwin and Bradley were no longer cooperating with detectives. The parents have denied this.
    http://www.kctv5.com/story/15647944/...-babys-parents



    **Parents trying to set up trust fund to encourage more tips.

    Mike LeRette — a cousin of the baby's mother, Deborah Bradley, and a spokesman for the family — said lawyers are now working with the family to set up a trust fund that would accept donations for a reward fund.

    Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/08...#ixzz1aDYVW4N6




    Kansas City police confirm they have talked with Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley by phone today.
    by Karen Yancey 1:21 PM


    Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_...#ixzz1aDSWbY9n
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