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    MO - Amber Alert: Lisa Irwin, 10 months, Kansas City, 4 october 2011 #14

    An AMBER Alert was issued for 10-month-old Lisa Irwin on Tuesday, October 4th after she was abducted from her crib during the early morning hours. As of today (Thursday), no suspects have been identified, and the AMBER Alert has been canceled.
    Lisa is 10 months old. She has blue eyes and blonde hair. She is 30 inches tall and weighs between 26 and 30 pounds. Lisa was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with white kittens on it.
    Lisa is described as having two bottom teeth, a small bug bite under her left ear, a beauty mark on her right outer thigh and currently has a cold with a cough.

    Anyone with information is asked to call 9-1-1, your local police agency, or the Kansas City TIPS Hotline at 816-474-8477.



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    Full moon is coming up, hope the moon beams find baby Lisa...........good nite all.
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    This seems like a good place for me to sign off for the evening. Good night, all.

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    So when is the last verified sighting of that sweet baby? The neighbor and her kid were supposedly over that early evening to watch a movie with the boys. Did she see the baby?
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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    So when is the last verified sighting of that sweet baby? The neighbor and her kid was supposedly over that early evening to watch a movie with the kids. Did she see the baby?
    I would have thought they would have tried to interview the woman for some television show, either they have and she refuses, or ?????
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    BeanE.s post from the last thread.
    Wut?

    “They probably may or might not have a suspect or could be looking for all that tape, all that footage that TV stations took to see whether or not someone is giving a consistent story,” Morrison said. “They could see whether or not their suspect might have been interviewed or might be in any of that footage, they might be looking at footage around the house or vigils.”

    http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/new...#ixzz1aRAAKrnI

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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    So when is the last verified sighting of that sweet baby? The neighbor and her kid was supposedly over that early evening to watch a movie with the kids. Did she see the baby?
    That's what I want to know, too. I have not even seen evidence that this neighbor exists or tells the same story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    So when is the last verified sighting of that sweet baby? The neighbor and her kid was supposedly over that early evening to watch a movie with the kids. Did she see the baby?
    The teen who was tested for DNA was over that day.

    That neighbor apparently was at the home the day Lisa vanished and knew the access code to the family's garage.

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/missing-bab...ry?id=14695496

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    I wish you all a good night and if I cant sleep like usual, I know just the place to come to now. Thanks again for having me and I certainly hope against hope that Little Lisa is found alive. I hope I am able to find you all again come tomorrow.. (I get lost easy)..

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    Suspicion almost always falls heavily on the parents, especially when it's young kids," Dr Finkelhor said.

    "Fifteen hundred parents kill their kids every year, and that's heavily focused on the under one year of age category."

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    If someone would like the fun! task of adding tags, my limit has been reached without room for these:

    missouri river, non-barking black lab, north brighton townhomes, northland, pd spokesman darin snapp, searching drainage ditch, spokesperson ashley irwin, statement analysis, subpoena raw news footage, teen neighbor(s), three cell phones

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    Quote Originally Posted by marge_rita View Post
    BeanE.s post from the last thread.




    boy that there could of been on hee haw a bizillion years ago.
    Yes.....there is a reason this person is referred to with the word "former" in front of his name......FORMER Attorney General.....FORMER Prosecutor......here is the wiki link I posted in the last thread.....


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_J._Morrison

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    My theory is that the baby was buried in the backyard of a family member.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raeann View Post
    Yes.....there is a reason this person is referred to with the word "former" in front of his name......FORMER Attorney General.....FORMER Prosecutor......here is the wiki link I posted in the last thread.....


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_J._Morrison
    A career prosecutor, Morrison has personally argued nearly 100 jury trials including the complex murder cases of notorious serial killers Richard Grissom and John E. Robinson. Morrison continued to personally prosecute cases as Kansas Attorney General.

    He also prosecuted some very high profile cases

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    If someone would like the fun! task of adding tags, my limit has been reached without room for these:

    missouri river, non-barking black lab, north brighton townhomes, northland, pd spokesman darin snapp, searching drainage ditch, spokesperson ashley irwin, statement analysis, subpoena raw news footage, teen neighbor(s), three cell phones
    I would but I'm already doing 3 things at once...haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatesSociopaths View Post
    My theory is that the baby was buried in the backyard of a family member.
    >shiver<
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    Quote Originally Posted by chieftess View Post
    A career prosecutor, Morrison has personally argued nearly 100 jury trials including the complex murder cases of notorious serial killers Richard Grissom and John E. Robinson. Morrison continued to personally prosecute cases as Kansas Attorney General.

    He also prosecuted some very high profile cases

    yes.....some good work ruined by later behavior.....this is the part that caused the "former" labels

    "Scandal and resignation

    Extramarital affair
    In December 2007 allegations surfaced that Morrison had an affair with an office administrator, Linda Carter, in the district attorney's office, that continued after he was elected Attorney General. Carter filed a sexual harassment claim with the EEOC alleging that Morrison pressured her to obtain sensitive information about Kline and several pending investigations at the district attorney's office. Morrison admitted to the infidelity, but denies any impropriety, sexual harassment, pressure to obtain sensitive information, or influence the course of an investigation."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_J._Morrison

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    Quote Originally Posted by HatesSociopaths View Post
    My theory is that the baby was buried in the backyard of a family member.
    I HOPE you are wrong, but you could be right.

    The only way I can think of that she would have been able to pull it off is if someone came over and took the baby from her home and disposed of her. It is just hard to imagine that someone would do that. Like i posted earlier, both my brothers love me very much,and my older brother has done HUGE favors for me over the years. But I cannot imagine calling him in the middle of the night and asking him to dispose of his dead niece. It takes a pretty intense brother/sister relationship for someone to do a morbid favor like that. imoo
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    Headed out for a day trip shortly but I have read the subpoena to the grand jury. I'm a former photojournalist/video editor for a news station in Savannah.

    Just wanted to mention it's asking for raw footage (comes from the camera tape.) Raw footage is cut edited onto show tapes, the edited version is saved to a library. Raw video tapes are placed in a box in the photographers room, it is not supposed to be reused for 5-7 days. Then it's reused for other stories.

    During a week it's not hard between 6 or 8 photographers shooting 5-8 tapes a day maybe of various news events or assignments. It's alot of digital tape and the tapes need reused until their trash or re-cycled with new tapes. I'd sometimes use 30 tapes for the morning show producer and morning news.

    If LE request raw footage, it must be subpoenaed. Not that it's difficult if it still exist but it's alot of work finding and previewing every tape. Cross your fingers for what they want. I have a feeling the GJ was used to meet the legal requirement of subpeonia to stop the reusing of raw video tape. JMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by raeann View Post
    yes.....some good work ruined by later behavior.....this is the part that caused the "former" labels

    "Scandal and resignation

    Extramarital affair
    In December 2007 allegations surfaced that Morrison had an affair with an office administrator, Linda Carter, in the district attorney's office, that continued after he was elected Attorney General. Carter filed a sexual harassment claim with the EEOC alleging that Morrison pressured her to obtain sensitive information about Kline and several pending investigations at the district attorney's office. Morrison admitted to the infidelity, but denies any impropriety, sexual harassment, pressure to obtain sensitive information, or influence the course of an investigation."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_J._Morrison
    Yep, and unfortunately, he's not the first nor will he be the last to engage in career ending stupidity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peliman View Post
    Headed out for a day trip shortly but I have read the subpoena to the grand jury. I'm a former photojournalist/video editor for a news station in Savannah.

    Just wanted to mention it's asking for raw footage (comes from the camera tape.) Raw footage is cut edited onto show tapes, the edited version is saved to a library. Raw video tapes are placed in a box in the photographers room, it is not supposed to be reused for 5-7 days. Then it's reused for other stories.

    During a week it's not hard between 6 or 8 photographers shooting 5-8 tapes a day maybe of various news events or assignments. It's alot of digital tape and the tapes need reused until their trash or re-cycled with new tapes. I'd sometimes use 30 tapes for the morning show producer and morning news.

    If LE request raw footage, it must be subpoenaed. Not that it's difficult if it still exist but it's alot of work finding and previewing every tape. Cross your fingers for what they want. I have a feeling the GJ was used to meet the legal requirement of subpeonia to stop the reusing of raw video tape. JMO
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