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    Just the facts, ma'am.

    Ok, we have a lot of speculation, a lot of rumors and some facts mixed in. It's getting kind of hard to tell the difference with all that has been 'reported', misreported and speculated. What do we know are the actual FACTS of this case so far?

    1. Baby Lisa is missing

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    2. 3 cell phones left on the counter (1 broken) are missing.

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    Do we consider what the family said as "facts"? Example: Younger son sleeping with mom.

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    4. DB and a man were recorded on video tape at a grocery store at approximately 5:00 pm on the day Lisa went missing. DB bought boxed wine, in addition to other items.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl View Post
    2. 3 cell phones left on the counter (1 broken) are missing.
    Are we sure the phones were on the counter at all? Didn't that info come from the parents?

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    link to the timeline: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150977"]Lisa Irwin-Timeline - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

    shelby put all of the case info into her timeline.

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    5. Jeremy Irwin called 911 around 4:04 a.m.
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    I don't think the cellphones being 'missing' can be taken as fact. They could have been disposed of.

    There are really very little facts in this case thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by c@rol View Post
    I don't think the cellphones being 'missing' can be taken as fact. They could have been disposed of.

    There are really very little facts in this case thus far.
    Whether disposed of or taken - there are cell phones missing. We know this as fact as LE has been looking for them.

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    * Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin are not married.

    * Deborah Bradley is not divorced from her husband, Shawn Bradley.


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    *There was a dumpster fire less then 1/2 mile away from the home on the night baby Lisa disappeared.

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    Hey, you stole my tag line!

    Baby Lisa is barely a toddler and it can be assumed she is not a runaway. That's about all I have. Really.

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    Doesn't the timeline have all this information on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelWings444 View Post
    Doesn't the timeline have all this information on it?
    Not exactly. Without witnesses to corroborate the parents' recollection of events on the night that Lisa reportedly went missing, we can't necessarily accept their statements as fact. At least, I can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    Do we consider what the family said as "facts"? Example: Younger son sleeping with mom.
    I don't, but that's just me. Perhaps LE has witnesses who can corroborate the parents' statements regarding events surrounding Lisa's disappearance.

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