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    OK - Oklahoma City, 10 Oct 2011 -Mystery of who killed Carina Saunders-ARREST MADE

    Oklahoma City police have asked for assistance in locating a 21-year-old man.

    Cody Perez was last seen on Oct. 10 after being dropped off at Platt College at Memorial Road and May Avenue.

    Read more: http://www.koco.com/news/29521286/de...#ixzz1bBPKBMcB
    Last edited by summer_breeze; 10-21-2011 at 12:24 PM.

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    OK - Teen's dismembered body found in duffel bag; POI sought

    Gory murder, POI on the lamb. Three Daily Oklahoman articles document the case:

    Mother of woman whose body was found in duffel bag in Bethany told Oklahoma City police she was ‘terrified'
    BETHANY — The mother of a 19-year-old woman whose dismembered body was found in a duffel bag told police Oct. 10 she was “terrified that something has happened to her daughter.”

    Also, a missing 21-year-old man is now believed to be connected to the case.

    Carina Saunders' body was found Thursday inside a duffel bag in a field behind the Homeland at NW 23 and Rockwell Avenue. Four days earlier, her cousin reported receiving threatening text messages involving Saunders, according to an Oklahoma City police report.
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    Friends recall Oklahoma City woman whose body was found in duffel bag

    One previous POI turned self in for questioning; the other may be California-bound:

    Bethany police say Tweed no longer ‘person of interest' after interview

    Lengthy articles, two with videos, at links above.

    The deceased: Carina Saunders, 19.

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    Every mother's nightmare. How sad.

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    WOW! Lots more going on here than meets the eye...
    Hope they catch this animal soon.
    It's just MOO. I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time and it surely won't be the last!

    Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. ~ Martin Luther King, Jr.



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    Wouldn't surprise me if he turns up dead somewhere as well.

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    *sigh* when is this crap going to end??

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    The Juggaloos, Clowns, and Culinary Art School. Please tell me this man has never been to Ohio!
    A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

    Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

    Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

    Suspect in the murders of:
    5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
    14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
    8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

    Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
    14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
    11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
    15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



    Write to:
    Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
    NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
    P.O. Box 29540
    Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
    RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
    or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
    http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/

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    So sad. This beautiful young girl dismembered..............I hope and pray they find the person responsible and soon!
    A parole review date is set for July 21, 2012 for Fred Howard Coffey.

    Coffey was convicted of the murder of 10 yr old Amanda Marie Ray, NC. He admitted to molesting 300 children.

    Please write a letter on behalf of Amanda.

    Suspect in the murders of:
    5 yr old Neely Smith, NC
    14 yr old Kathy Lynn Beatty, MD
    8 yr old Travis Shane King, VA

    Possibly connected to the disappearances of:
    14 Yr old Tracy Anne King, PA
    11 yr old Sheila and 13 yr old Katherine Lyons, MD
    15 yr old Carolyn Majane, NJ



    Write to:
    Chairman Charles L. Mann Sr.
    NC Post Release Supervision & Parole Commission
    P.O. Box 29540
    Raleigh, NC 27626-0540
    RE: Fred Howard Coffey, DOC# 0081135
    or send an email to parole@doc.state.nc.us
    http://justice4amanda.tripod.com/

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    POI Cody Perez, 21, is being sought by police:

    http://newsok.com/bethany-police-say...ad_story_title

    Perez had not gone to work or school for a week and had a paycheck waiting for him at the Olive Garden on Memorial Road, Laraway stated in the report filed Monday.

    On his Facebook page, Perez calls himself a Juggalo, which is how fans of the musical group Insane Clown Posse refer to themselves. The band's lyrics are controversial as they touch on themes such as cannibalism, murder and necrophilia. Many of Perez's Facebook friends are fans of the band, and photos on Saunders' Facebook page show her wearing an Insane Clown Posse T-shirt.

    Perez is shown on a Facebook page photo holding a hatchet.

    He has a lengthy criminal history out of Tulsa County including assault and battery on a Department of Juvenile Affairs employee, possession of a stolen credit card and larceny from a house.

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    Person of interest in death of Carina Saunders

    http://newsok.com/person-of-interest...rticle/3615212

    BY BRYAN DEAN and TIFFANY GIBSON
    Published: October 20, 2011

    BETHANY A person of interest in the Carina Saunders slaying reportedly sold his set of culinary knives to a local pawnshop the day he was reported missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeannieC View Post
    The Juggaloos, Clowns, and Culinary Art School. Please tell me this man has never been to Ohio!
    What's up with ICP and Ohio?

    Meanwhile Perez sold his culinary knives to a pawn shop for $50.00.

    http://newsok.com/family-friends-mou...headline_crime


    Culinary knives have to cost way more than at least $100.00, right?

    Poor girl. RIP pretty Carina.

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    This is horrible!!!! The one thing that really gets on my nerves is when I read stupid things like this: " Medical examiner's spokeswoman Amy Elliott said Tuesday an autopsy had not been completed, but Saunders' death has been ruled a homicide.".....well why WOULDN'T they rule this a homicide! Carina didn't do this to herself and I'm sure she didn't pass away from natural causes out in a field and some good samaritan stranger decided to do this and put her in a duffle bag!!

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    Carina Saunders was remembered at a Friday memorial service in Bethany as police continued to investigate her killing.

    The Oklahoman reports (http://bit.ly/mPik4b ) that Bethany Police Chief Phil Cole said the agency is still looking for 21-year-old Cody Perez of Oklahoma City as a person of interest.

    http://www.therepublic.com/view/stor...Found-Bethany/

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    Bethany police say Cody Perez is no longer a person of interest in woman's slaying
    BETHANY Cody Perez, who was called a person of interest in the killing of Carina Saunders, has been questioned by police and released. He is no longer a person of interest, police chief Phil Cole said.
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    Police said culinary arts student Perez, 21, of Oklahoma City was interviewed by Bethany police Sunday at police headquarters.

    Perez told investigators that his family members had mistaken the victim for a girl he had brought to their residence. Investigators were able to verify Perez's story and Perez was released.

    Cole said investigators think Perez left the state for reasons unrelated to the investigation.
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    more at Daily Oklahoman link above

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    Oklahoma police ask FBI to profile suspects in death of girl whose body was found in duffel bag (The Republic)

    OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) Investigators in a small Oklahoma City suburb have asked the FBI to help them identify possible suspects in the death of a 19-year-old woman whose dismembered body was found in a duffel bag, the deputy chief of police said Tuesday

    Bethany Deputy Chief John Reid said investigators have asked the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit to develop a profile of possible suspects in the death of Carina Saunders, whose beheaded body was found stuffed in a duffel bag behind a grocery store on Oct. 13.
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    Reid said police are tracking down new leads but he declined to discuss details. He said there is no known motive for the slaying and that investigators believe Saunders had no job or permanent residence.

    "That's what makes this so tough," he said.
    more at link above

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    Just one observation on the FBI doing a profile on this case. This seems to be routine in many murder investigations these days. But how successful is it? The story relates other ongoing investigations on other cases then says no suspects in those cases so far. I am losing my confidence in profiling period. Does anyone else here have any opinions on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyLadySleuth View Post
    Just one observation on the FBI doing a profile on this case. This seems to be routine in many murder investigations these days. But how successful is it? The story relates other ongoing investigations on other cases then says no suspects in those cases so far. I am losing my confidence in profiling period. Does anyone else here have any opinions on this?
    Profiling is an interesting art, but an inexact one - a sort of fiction concocted with the hope of matching fact.

    The other OK ongoing investigations have no suspects because OK LE is notoriously unsuccessful at solving major cases.

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    Bethany Police say they still do not have any persons of interest in the homicide investigation of Carina Saunders. Investigators held a press conference Friday and said they also do not have any solid leads despite interviewing more than 50 people.
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    Officers said people are making up stories and calling 911. Bethany PD encourage people only with legitimate information about the case to call police.
    http://www.okcfox.com/newsroom/top_s...93.shtml?wap=0

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    Lengthy Daily Oklahoman article with new info:

    Despite difficulties, Bethany police work to solve woman's killing
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    [BPD Detective Angelo] Orefice said Saunders, a 2010 graduate of Mustang High School, was known to use methamphetamine, marijuana and Ecstasy. Police have been unable to determine whether she had a job or where she was living at the time of her death.

    “She ran with a rough crowd,” Deputy Police Chief John Reid said. “She hung around a lot of different people. And that's what makes this case so hard. We're dealing with people who don't want to have anything to do with the police.”
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    “It's the worst thing I've ever seen,” Orefice said. “People are nervous.”
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    But [BPD Detective Austin] Warfield said he believes Saunders' slaying is an isolated case committed by people she knew who shared her lifestyle.

    “I don't think that anybody else is in danger,” he said.
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    much more at link above, including video

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post

    Police say he is no longer a person of interest. Police say they have checked his knives. But do they know if they have all his knives or other sharp weapons?

    I don't really understand this case. Tweed and Perez had some animosity going between them. That I understand. So how did they become persons of interest in the missing girl's case? The missing girl was last seen in the company of an older man. Has he been identified and has she been seen after being in his company?

    Who were the threatening texts from that the cousin recieved? LE should have been able to find that out pretty easily. And were the threats directed at the cousin or at the missing girl?

    The cousin last saw her Sept 28. But she didn't report her missing until she got the threatening texts. Where did she think she was between Sept. 28 and Oct. 9?

    Why is LE suddenly disparaging the victim? They are talking about the drug use, the rough company, the homelessness. While drug use may be mentioned in a case, the talk about the rough company, seems a little more than what you see in most murder cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew View Post
    Why is LE suddenly disparaging the victim? They are talking about the drug use, the rough company, the homelessness. While drug use may be mentioned in a case, the talk about the rough company, seems a little more than what you see in most murder cases.
    Generally speaking, I agree with you that disparaging the victim, who can no longer speak for herself, can be very unfair, and also misleading. However, that age group, the college-age crowd, seems to be suffering an epidemic of drug abuse. Perhaps, at least in some cases, confronting the truth of where drug abuse can lead may serve the public good.

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    Hmmm........

    Police investigate death of Oklahoma City woman (Daily Oklahoman)
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    Kelsey Bransby, of Oklahoma City, was found lying on the floor of an apartment in the 3000 block of SW 89 after police were sent to the residence.

    She had trauma to her body, but police did not elaborate on the nature of her injuries. Bransby was taken to a hospital where she died over the weekend, police said.

    According to Bransby's Facebook page, she graduated from Mustang High School in 2010, which would put her in the same graduating class with Carina Saunders, the 19-year-old whose dismembered body was found in a duffle bag Oct. 13 in Bethany.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    http://www.news9.com/story/15913725/...partment-floor

    Comment following the article:

    "Her sister is friends with Carina Saunders she is also from around the same area and some of the same friends."

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    A slight clarification regarding Kelsey and Carina:
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    The teenager had recently graduated from Vo-Tech through Deer Creek Schools. But had spent much of her childhood at Mustang schools, the same school Carina Saunders graduated from.

    In fact, the two would have been in the same graduating class. But no word on whether the two knew each other.

    http://bit.ly/unB9zH
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    I checked out their Facebook pages - they did have many F-book friends in common but neither was listed on the others' Friends list.

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