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    LE Serves Warrant on Family Home #6

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152229"]Link to previous thread here.[/ame]

    Please remember the following:

    - Be respectful of one another. We are all here for Baby Lisa. We can hold different theories of what happened to her and still disagree respectfully and advance the conversation in productive ways.
    - Minors are off-limits for sleuthing or theorizing unless they are victims, or have been named POIs/suspects by LE.
    - The thread topic involves the search of the home. If a topic arises that deserves its own thread, check to see if one exists and if not, start that thread up!

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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151995"]Warrant Served on Family Home #1[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152041"]Warrant Served on Family Home #2[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152058"]Warrant Served on Family Home #3[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152118"]Warrant Served on Family Home #4[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152229"]Warrant Served on Family Home #5[/ame]
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    so please tell me, where was the decomp detected?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vlpate View Post
    "More children 0–4 years of age in
    the United States now die from homicide
    than from infectious diseases or cancer,...."
    https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/ojjdp/187239.pdf
    Here's something recent that we're discussing on another thread:

    America's child death shame


    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151913"]America's child death shame - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]
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    My posts are meant to help think through possibilities and are strictly an additional opinion under circumstances when many points of view need to be considered. I apologize in advance to anyone whose potential involvement is contemplated in error. Please understand that much of what is happening is merely brainstorming during unfortunate events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krimekat View Post
    so please tell me, where was the decomp detected?

    The affidavit also revealed that "On October 17, 2011, an FBI cadaver dog was brought into the residence upon consent of (Jeremy) Irwin and Bradley. The cadaver dog indicated a positive 'hit' for the scent of a deceased human in an area of the floor of Bradley's bedroom near the bed."

    Read more: http://livewire.kmbc.com/Event/Live_...#ixzz1bSSn114a
    my opinion...........and i happen to agree with it.....

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    Link to search warrant for night shift to catch up:

    http://media2.nbcactionnews.com/NWT/...winwarrant.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by krimekat View Post
    so please tell me, where was the decomp detected?
    On the floor of the parents bedroom, next to the bed.
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    Fly high and free, Jhessye ~

    My posts are meant to help think through possibilities and are strictly an additional opinion under circumstances when many points of view need to be considered. I apologize in advance to anyone whose potential involvement is contemplated in error. Please understand that much of what is happening is merely brainstorming during unfortunate events.

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    I think DB knows the detectives are getting close to this and that's when she started in with her defense of ignorance because she was 'drunk' and may have blacked out. To me that says "yes I killed her but now I can say I didn't remember." I don't understand why else she would say this so late in the game. If Lisa was truly missing, that first night most desperate parents would say I had been drinking, taking meds, and may have blacked out - I'm such an idiot but please find my baby. I'm saying most would probably confess this - this woman is young and scared and honestly I think she lost her cool, killed the baby and dad may have helped hide the body - probably in a river. Why she didn't just confess and say it was an accident is beyond me.

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    http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/10/21...toys-and-more/

    video with Judge JP

    ((she had to be a bit shocked at this news))

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    Question. Did DB not allow an extensive search of the backyard before the search warrant, or did she say she was afraid to look back there herself?


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    Common sense (at least mine) dictates you do not cover up an accident by staging an abduction. If DB had been 'blackout drunk' she could have waited a few hours to sober up before contacting authorities had there truly been an accident.

    I just don't believe this is an accident or manslaughter...I have a bad gut feeling that DB snapped that night. Maybe due to the meds; perhaps tired, cranky, and frustrated with a fussy baby or possibly fed up with life itself. I don't know but everything in me says this is murder, plain and simple.

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    I just read the whole affidavit for the warrant and it really was an open one, I thought it would be. They were able to take anything they deemed necessary in finding this baby. Good for them and the judge.. Now, where are the handcuffs, I dont think I can say that enough. Not sure what else besides a body they are waiting for, now is the time to get her in for questioning and see what kind of a deal she makes. I hope this is not indicative of sleuthing anyone, but I would say anyone that might have been involved in helping DB in this scheme, it would be in their best interest to come forward now in case part of her defense besides the black out she will claim lays blame on you... I think someone if she had help, might start talking, unless its JI, then I cant see him saying a thing.
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    Re-posting this one for our night shift folks:

    Minors who are not victims or named POIs/suspects are off-limits at WS, in terms of both sleuthing and theorizing.

    Remember that what we post on the interwebs stays on the interwebs... pretty much forever. Imagine being the innocent younger sibling of a victim, and one day years later, you Google your name and find out that you were being discussed as a murderer back before you even reached double digits. Or you get to high school and one of your friends finds these speculations and spreads it around. Or your significant other looks up your name on the internet before deciding whether to get serious about planning for marriage with you, and this sort of thing comes up.

    In our zeal to find out what happened to Baby Lisa, we need to balance the desire to sleuth every possible angle against the responsibility not to unintentionally cause further or future harm to her siblings' lives.

    Where this post falls is random.
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    Lance - it was my understanding she said she was afraid to look back there for what she might find but didn't restrict a search. I think the baby was taken from there and moved with the help of the dad. JMHO.
    She did however (DB) refuse to let detectives re-interview the kids, who may have heard/seen something. She said she didn't want them to go through that process again, but I think she's covering her arse.

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    http://www.kmbc.com/video/29554466/detail.html

    It just amazes me how the Irwin's lawyers insist they are cooperating with LE and LE insist that they are not!! Geee, who do i believe??
    It's just MOO. I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time and it surely won't be the last!

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