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    Juggalo connection?

    I tried to find an existing thread to put this under but there didn't seem to be one that 'fit'.

    I know that there were videos and other reference to SA being a Juggalo. I wonder if there could be a possible connection between Juggalo behavior and Hailey's disappearance.

    This article today brought it to the forefront of my mind again:

    FBI Considers Juggalos, Fans Of Insane Clown Posse, A Gang In Annual Report

    The FBI is monitoring a growing gang with members across the country who dress in customary colors, assemble for rowdy annual meetings and control the trade of an obscure Midwestern soft drink. They are Juggalos.

    In a report on emerging gang trends, federal investigators revealed that they have their eyes on the loyal fans of the horrorcore group Insane Clown Posse.

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    But Juggalo "subsets exhibit gang-like behavior and engage in criminal activity and violence," the FBI alleges in a document first reported by Wired.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...n_1065110.html
    I also started a general thread in another forum on the Juggalo topic, but of all the cases I thought it may pertain to the most, I thought of Hailey's.

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    belimom, will have to go back in my notes, but did look somewhat at that angle in the past. There were a number of people related to the case that had a 'connection' to Juggalos and ICP.
    Thanks for posting- shall go consider..hmmm.

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    belimom, I know where you got that reference from.
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    I do not see an ICP connection in Hailey’s case. -moo
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    Shawn and his cousin were Juggaolos, and there was a fight with other juggalos that played out in the comment section of some youtube videos that were posted, if i remember correctly

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    Quote Originally Posted by peeples View Post
    Shawn and his cousin were Juggaolos, and there was a fight with other juggalos that played out in the comment section of some youtube videos that were posted, if i remember correctly
    Yes, one of the videos where they're driving around. I also think they wore ICP t-shirts (or had a poster) or something like that. I recall at the time when we saw the videos and photos that ICP and juggalo references were quite prominent. IIRC

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    Ok, I just have to ask: what is the " obscure Midwestern drink"? I'm not too hip these days.

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    How looonng ago were those videos recorded?
    Not the year before Hailey went missing.
    Unless I missed one since <2009?

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    I've always thought there was something to that angle. In the box of documents confiscated from the house, the one containing the arrticles on serial killers, etc., there were also several pages of cryptograms printed on BD's work computer from an entertainment website. I checked it out, and it's harmless. The site offers a variety of games like sudoku, crosswords and cryptograms. The wording in the warrant was "cryptic" to me. Something like, "cryptograms are associated with Juggalos and followers of Insane Clown Posse", as though that in itself was a clue to what happened to Hailey. Then I poked around and read about some of the crimes attributed to Juggalos. Combined with the films and SA's posts on the horror site, it's an indication of his attraction to gore and bizarre acts of violence. I think it's possible that he couldn't stop at just reading or talking about it, and that dressing up and making films didn't satisfy his curious urges but only fed them until eventually, he was driven to take it to the next level.
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    Faygo!! Its a soft drink.
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    There also mention of Juggalos in the following affidavit (bbm):

    http://media.reporternews.com/media/static/0113_001.pdf

    Billie DUNN indicated she and ADKINS were both interested in the topics of the documents contained within the box and within the residence and stated she printed the documents a t her jobsire and brought them home SO she and ADKINS could read the documents. Biliie DUNN described the topics as a "hobby." The documents included:

    19 pages printed on 9-29-2010 relaced to the Princes in the Tower, murder of family members who were pre-pubertal and pre-meditated suffocation in bed.

    21 pages of cryptogram from teppo.tv/cryptogram dated 10-5-2010. Cryptogram is associated with followers of Insane Clown Posse, also known as "Juggalos".

    5 pages of cryptogram from www.martystuart.com dated 10-4-2010. Cryptogram is associated with followers of Insane Clown Posse, also known as "Juggalos'.

    2 pages of cryptogram from www.teppo.tv/cryptogram dated 9-30-2010. C:ryptogsam is associated with followers of Insane Clown Posse, also known as "Juggalos".
    ETA: Bessie, I see you and I were recalling the same info...
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    Onelove,
    Faygo Pop is a soft drink brand headquartered in Detroit, Michigan. It is distributed in the Midwest, Mid-Atlantic, and Central Southern regions of the United States. Faygo can be found throughout the United States and Canada, in more than fifty flavors.

    as in cheap drink

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    LOL … I see many are well read up = kudos!

    But, the big dog may be coming back to town!
    And I am fairly panting waiting for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intrepid View Post
    LOL … I see many are well read up = kudos!

    But, the big dog may be coming back to town!
    And I am fairly panting waiting for him.
    Speaking of cryptic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by intrepid View Post
    LOL … I see many are well read up = kudos!

    But, the big dog may be coming back to town!
    And I am fairly panting waiting for him.
    I was confused, too, Knox. lol Here ya go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intrepid View Post
    LOL … I see many are well read up = kudos!

    But, the big dog may be coming back to town!
    And I am fairly panting waiting for him.
    I was confused, too, Knox. lol Here ya go.

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    Thanks for the heads up, Intrepid.
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