FYI... Unless the info is wrong there's the 4:15AM phone call that JR claims was LS using his phone. So that would tend to muddy the chances of him being wrong about her leaving his place at 4:30AM (since the time of the call would be easily verifiable). Assuming he's telling the truth about that morning, and assuming the info is correct and that call was verified as 4:15AM, then there's not much chance he could be wrong about the time she left his place (at least not in the chance it was prior to 4:15AM (the time of that phone call)... obviously whether it was 10 mins later or an 1hr later would be subject to memory).
BB by the way worked construction last summer. Have always wondered if it was him the white truck was picking up. Can't imagine that he could party late and get up at 4 a.m.
Interesting that chatter on here and elsewhere is picking up a bit. Wonder if we are about to experience some movement in this case.
Not sure what the protocol is for linking external sources, but here's some speculation on
another board from December:
if that's no kosher by the mods, I apologize. Delete if needed.
FYI, the thread on the other boards started off with a post about another young woman from the area who disappeared in December, but she was quickly found again.
Last edited by Ros; 02-05-2012 at 09:35 AM. Reason: added information.
There's one more aspect that I find puzzling:
Where could she have been going without her purse, keys, or cell phone?
Could she have started to retrace her steps looking for her keys, but never gotten as far as the alley camera?
Were her roommates tolerant about letting her in if she buzzed them from the lobby during the wee hours of the morning?
And regarding the theory that too much time had elapsed for anything to be found in the landfill, there's been a recent report that some of Andrew Compton's remains might have been found in the same landfill that was searched months ago. It is not clear whether the remains were found recently or were found during the original search.
Tony Stewart and Kim Stewart wrote a book about the case, but LS's parents asked him to cease publication:
As an aside, that someone can post such vulgarness about a missing and possibly dead young woman is chilling.
Also, I agree about the chatter and have wondered the same thing. But this recent wave seems to have been triggered when the Spierer's released the statement about CR. A few related events coincided, one of which was the book release.
IU Bloomington released the statement below, which I happen to agree with. But I don't dare post my opinion on the FB page else I suffer the wrath of those gals who run the LS Case Discussion page. IMO they have become a liability and if I were the Spierer's I would have a talk with them.
Official statement regarding Lauren Spierer web presence:
"Indiana University Bloomington has not permanently removed the "button" on its home page that directs viewers to resources and information regarding the disappearance of IU student Lauren Spierer. However, after eight months of displaying such information on the campus home page, http://www.iub.edu/, the decision was made to rotate the "find Lauren" button with other information on the web site.
Why someone would move/take her stuff is another question. Sometimes girls can be mean ... maybe a girl was there who had a thing for CR and didn't like that LS was with him. Or maybe someone was trying to set LS for something more nefarious, to ensure she didn't have a phone to call for help with or shoes to help her run.
I've also wondered lately if perhaps LS did indeed leave JR's as he says but turned back after he went inside. She might have gotten spooked, realizing that she didn't have her cell, etc. Or maybe she changed her mind about crashing at JR's, since she didn't have her keys. In other words, maybe she was intercepted by someone by/at 5 North vs. en route to SW. Just a thought ...
I don't know that I believe that anyone "messed" with her stuff. While she left her cell phone and shoes in the bar, she lost her purse in the alley. Presumably no one was messing with her stuff there.
Just my opinion
I wonder if LE checked the shoes and cell phone for fingerprints. LS had been arrested once. Her fingerprints should have been on file. They could have checked the fingerprints of the Kilroy's employees. Anyone else's fingerprints on the shoes (if they held prints) would be suspect. Of course she could have lent her phone to someone.
As for drinking underage ... IMO, her parents knew she partied. She was close to her mom, and it sounds like they shared a lot. There was that previous violation ... plus, a lot of kids I know think it's ok to drink at 19 or 20 ... over 18 seems to be the magic number, even for kids who didn't party in HS. I'm not saying I agree with that, but it's what they think and do. It's the drugs I question, mainly because she'd lived with Long QT for awhile. There are lots of drugs available at the HS level, and if she didn't partake then, they wouldn't expect her to in college, IMO. JMO.
Here's another random thought. Lauren had been arrested for drinking violations in September of 2010 and had entered the pretrial diversion program:
Persons in that program are supposed to avoid any further violations for a period of time (a year?), or else they risk having the whole process start over again, and this time the courts won't be so lenient.
What if Lauren and CR saw someone enter that they recognized as LE? Would that have been reason for them to leave in a hurry without taking phone, shoes, etc.?