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    Missing Cell Phones #2

    Ok, here's a whole clean new thread.

    Carry on.................

    Thread #1: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151083"]Missing cell phones - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

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    I wonder if JI borrowed the phone for this specific job or if he has a regular work phone from All Current Electric. I also wonder, how many people knew he was going to be gone from home that night?

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    Where did everybody go?

    The cell phones are certainly fishy. I'm sure LE would have checked with the cell carrier and seen that the account was active/restricted or whatever. I REALLY don't understand why they said they couldn't make or recieve calls when it would be so easy to check. They already knew about the call and discounted it as being false, since their phones were on restricted service. So, they said this AFTER LE told them about the call? What would the purpose of that be?

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    Gonna have to source ALL of that for me :)

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    The call wasn't made from Jeremy's work phone, the one they called 911 from. As to who owns it, I would assume the company he worked for. I've not seen him listed under any particular company, thought he might just contract his work out. I've not found an electrician's license for him either, but Missouri may not post licensing information.
    His company van was in his driveway but I can't remember the name of the company. The work he was doing at Starbucks was not his regular job. <modsnip>
    (I did not write the last four sentences, mlc9852 did...just to be clear)
    Last edited by nursebeeme; 10-31-2011 at 09:11 AM. Reason: grrrr no rumors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl View Post
    Ok, here's a whole clean new thread.

    Carry on.................

    Thread #1: Missing cell phones - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
    :Banane35:

    Not so clean anymore, I had to entertain myself. It's ok though, i'll clean it up

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    I kinda remember the name of the company that JI worked for was All Current Electric. I don't think that's who he was working for that night - the night job was actually a "side job". Please don't ask for links.

    The company name that he worked for might be in the timeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl View Post
    I kinda remember the name of the company that JI worked for was All Current Electric. I don't think that's who he was working for that night - the night job was actually a "side job". Please don't ask for links.

    The company name that he worked for might be in the timeline.
    I'm asking for links to JI working for his friend <modsnip>that night.

    Wise Owl, I need to respond to a post on the first thread and I don't know the best way to do that. I'm trying to just copy and paste, but I'm screwing it up...help?
    Last edited by nursebeeme; 10-31-2011 at 09:12 AM. Reason: rumor

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrye4709 View Post
    Where did everybody go?

    The cell phones are certainly fishy. I'm sure LE would have checked with the cell carrier and seen that the account was active/restricted or whatever. I REALLY don't understand why they said they couldn't make or recieve calls when it would be so easy to check. They already knew about the call and discounted it as being false, since their phones were on restricted service. So, they said this AFTER LE told them about the call? What would the purpose of that be?
    I want to repeat you to make sure I am clear with what you stated!
    Parents said phones don't work, prior to and after LE claimed the phone(s) did? (or one phone -- or whatever was implied about phone use. This information didn't come from LE but Deborah that I am aware of -- so treading carefully!)

    This is truly befuddling to me! UGH. I can only say something similar to a "child's lie" using the phones to embellish the story, and or possibly lying to cover a lose end?

    Huge open end for me.

    I have personally been frantic and reached by habit for a phone that did not work. I've discounted the JJ issue with the whole... "Why would they go after a phone that did not work".

    I have also refrained from using a work phone for personal use, and questioned my sanity at times for doing so! (but made the emerg phone call!)

    Entirely too many glaring discrepancies in their stories than to worry about that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vlpate View Post
    I'm asking for links to JI working for his friend <modsnip> that night.Wise Owl, I need to respond to a post on the first thread and I don't know the best way to do that. I'm trying to just copy and paste, but I'm screwing it up...help?
    I don't think MSM has reported on this... yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl View Post
    I kinda remember the name of the company that JI worked for was All Current Electric. I don't think that's who he was working for that night - the night job was actually a "side job". Please don't ask for links.

    The company name that he worked for might be in the timeline.
    All Current Electric is correct. It is a union shop.

    The company name should be in the footage on the first day. The van parked in the driveway, along with reporters discussing JI's place of employment. I think JJ also may have said something about it. I know she visited Starbucks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KCMommie View Post
    All Current Electric is correct. It is a union shop.

    The company name should be in the footage on the first day. The van parked in the driveway, along with reporters discussing JI's place of employment. I think JJ also may have said something about it. I know she visited Starbucks.
    How cool is this: www.allcurrentelectrickc.com

    Class company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MamaK View Post
    I don't think MSM has reported on this... yet.
    Yeah, me either.

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    I have two theories on the phones - ones that may have been discussed already.

    1) It was a set-up and the phone call at ~2:30 was a red herring. The phones being "stolen" was all to cast blame in that direction. However, that takes a lot of foresight and coming up with who will it be pinpointed on, how to do it, etc.

    OR

    2) The phone call at ~2:30 was someone screwing up by leaving a trail back to the family somehow. Hence, the phones had to be "stolen" in order to claim innocence.

    It seems so simple but for some reason the whole phone scenario became clear. I had been thinking there was something *on the phones* that needed to be hidden. However, I think that phone call is key to the phones being missing. And placing my bets on #2.

    All speculation and MOO.

    ETA: Wow, I see that taking a break some for a couple of days has left me in the dust here! I just went back and read about spoofing and framing and all kinds of stuff. My post seems pretty behind the times now....
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCMommie View Post
    I want to repeat you to make sure I am clear with what you stated!
    Parents said phones don't work, prior to and after LE claimed the phone(s) did? (or one phone -- or whatever was implied about phone use. This information didn't come from LE but Deborah that I am aware of -- so treading carefully!)

    This is truly befuddling to me! UGH. I can only say something similar to a "child's lie" using the phones to embellish the story, and or possibly lying to cover a lose end?

    Huge open end for me.

    I have personally been frantic and reached by habit for a phone that did not work. I've discounted the JJ issue with the whole... "Why would they go after a phone that did not work".

    I have also refrained from using a work phone for personal use, and questioned my sanity at times for doing so! (but made the emerg phone call!)

    Entirely too many glaring discrepancies in their stories than to worry about that!
    Deb made the comment that LE told her about the call, but she said it couldn't be true because the both had tried to use the phones and they didn't work. Did they think LE was lying to them about the call and they really thought their phones didn't work or what?

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    By saying the phones were restricted and were taken along with Lisa, just seems to me that they were hoping whatever is on them will never be found out. LE did find infomation via phone records I believe even without the cells, as they knew to interview MW 4x.

    Having the phones would be better...needle in a haystack.

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