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    Capitol Forest Search 11/05/11

    http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/1...dsey-baum.html

    Does anyone know anything about this search?

    Lindsey Baum, Elizabeth Olten, Shantina Smiley/Azriel Carver, Susan Powell, Rachel Anderson, Kyron Horman, Isabel Celis, Sierra Newbold, Lyric Cook & Elizabeth Collins, Christopher Marks, Reena Williams - NEVER FORGOTTEN

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    There was an earlier article this past week that there would be a search. Oakville the staging area.

    I don't have the link, but I saved the article in Lindsey's case album.
    http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m...aum%20%20-WA-/


    Particularly interesting is that the search organizer said they are closer.
    If the article is correct in the quote:
    "refused to provide further detail of the search but said “significant progress” was made and that the disappearance is getting closer to being solved
    "

    I hope so. It has been so long.

    However, I am a cynic and put very little trust in what reporters write. Most of them do no homework or checking.
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    I didn't participate in this search, don't know anyone who did. I do have some strong opinions on it though.

    This search group is not LE. And at least from the news article they don't seem to be even working with LE, which concerns me. Since they are making some major claims.

    Anybody can suddenly appear, invent a group, start sending out press releases, do searches, and get a lot of attention. In my opinion, some of those folks may not have the best intentions, and their activities could just cause more hassle for LE.

    The organizer says they got anon emails. Shouldn't those emails be sent directly to LE? Isn't it important to not then go out and disturb possible evidence? And why on earth would a group of citizens claim that -they- are close to solving the case?

    I wish the reporter had done some investigation, maybe done an article only on this particular group of people, not just add what they say to an article of actual Lindsey Baum info.

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    UGH.. I was really hoping the media wouldn't grab onto this crap.

    The "founder" of Search and Seek is the poster "FleeceCreations". She works closely with people like Double Decker, Sonja Grace and Harry Oakes.

    That's all I'm saying about that... I'll let you guys form your own opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AmandaReckonwith View Post
    There was an earlier article this past week that there would be a search. Oakville the staging area.

    I don't have the link, but I saved the article in Lindsey's case album.
    http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/m...aum%20%20-WA-/


    Particularly interesting is that the search organizer said they are closer.
    If the article is correct in the quote:
    "refused to provide further detail of the search but said “significant progress” was made and that the disappearance is getting closer to being solved
    "

    I hope so. It has been so long.

    However, I am a cynic and put very little trust in what reporters write. Most of them do no homework or checking.
    She is no closer to solving this case than I am. She's someone who wants to appear to be a super hero when in reality, she's a joke. (MOO)

    I've kept my mouth shut long enough about her. She goes in and tries to "save the day" in missing person cases--saying she's *this close* to solving it and then when people get upset because she "refuses to divulge more information" she moves onto the next unsuspecting family.

    She's the "real worlds" Double Decker. Full of talk but no real results.

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    Thank You Sarah and Jenn. Couldn't agree more! I wonder if LE/FBI will chime in. Here's to hoping they will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by breanna View Post
    Thank You Sarah and Jenn. Couldn't agree more! I wonder if LE/FBI will chime in. Here's to hoping they will.
    If LE doesn't chime in then they are allowing her to make them look like idiots.

    She goes searching on a "hunch" about a guy who most likely has NOTHING to do with Lindsey and says she's *this close* to solving the case. Yet LE has worked 2.5 years and they haven't solved it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferO View Post
    If LE doesn't chime in then they are allowing her to make them look like idiots.

    She goes searching on a "hunch" about a guy who most likely has NOTHING to do with Lindsey and says she's *this close* to solving the case. Yet LE has worked 2.5 years and they haven't solved it?

    It's pathetic really. Maybe they agree and won't even address it because it's nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferO View Post
    UGH.. I was really hoping the media wouldn't grab onto this crap.

    The "founder" of Search and Seek is the poster "FleeceCreations". She works closely with people like Double Decker, Sonja Grace and Harry Oakes.

    That's all I'm saying about that... I'll let you guys form your own opinions.
    "Harry Oakes" was all you had to say, IMO. These people do nothing but cause trouble to bring attention to themselves. There are others as well.

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    Walla Walla County Sheriff John A. Turner is advising the public to use caution when making charitable contributions after an organization called Search and Rescue Charities contacted some Walla Walla County citizens claiming to support local Search and Rescue teams.

    Walla Walla sheriff emphasizes caution, urges to use local nonprofits
    Read more: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/1...#ixzz1d3P9yeoC

    Good info in this article about how to not get scammed.

    Concerning Jennifer Mau, organizer of Oakville area search:

    Although Guardians of the Children volunteers are not search-and-rescue certified, Mau said the grassroots search parties they organize are effective. The organization has found 14 missing children in the past year, she said, and left only two cases unresolved. Her claim could not be immediately verified.
    source http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...nduct_the.html

    Google search on her name also pulls up a news article about past insurance claim fraud charges, Washington state court records http://dw.courts.wa.gov/ search shows results


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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferO View Post
    She is no closer to solving this case than I am.
    JenniferO,

    Have you heard of anything from LE on the status of their investigation and/or searches? Has anything changed in McCleary since Lindsey went missing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by K9Snoop View Post
    JenniferO,

    Have you heard of anything from LE on the status of their investigation and/or searches? Has anything changed in McCleary since Lindsey went missing?
    Everything I've heard has been from the media. LE doesn't share much information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahC View Post
    Read more: http://www.thenewstribune.com/2011/1...#ixzz1d3P9yeoC

    Good info in this article about how to not get scammed.

    Concerning Jennifer Mau, organizer of Oakville area search:



    source http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/i...nduct_the.html

    Google search on her name also pulls up a news article about past insurance claim fraud charges, Washington state court records http://dw.courts.wa.gov/ search shows results
    Guardians and Jennifer Mau were part of the search last year.

    What has changed since then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SadlyMistaken View Post
    Guardians and Jennifer Mau were part of the search last year.

    What has changed since then?

    Not exactly sure how to explain it. Just say there was a conflict of interest and all parties involved decided it was best if she no longer remain a part of Lindseys Core team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JenniferO View Post
    Not exactly sure how to explain it. Just say there was a conflict of interest and all parties involved decided it was best if she no longer remain a part of Lindseys Core team.
    Ya, I'm a little confused. Were searchers names and numbers given to them in the parting of ways? Because there have been calls to some asking to help with this new search, as if it is the same core group of people that were searching last year. That was my understanding anyway. Maybe I misunderstood.

    I want nothing to do with anything that Harry Oakes is a part of. I think that some people like to exploit hurting, vulnerable people... just to make a name for themselves. It seems to me with everything that I have seen with him.. he may be one of those individuals. At the very least.. he has hindered investigations and focused attention off of missing children and on to himself... which really upsets me.

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