11-09-2011, 02:32 AM #1
NY - Brooklyn, WhtMale, 20-30, 6'8", 539 lbs, Sep'11 - Kenneth Ecker
I saw this case today in NamUs, and thought it very strange that a guy that tall (6 feet 8 inches) and that heavy (539 lbs) would not be recognized by someone. So I put together a facial reconstruction, and am starting a thread here.
NamUs UP # 9421
Beanie Found with body:
Unidentified White Male (Case number K11-4374)
Found: September 01, 2011 at 455 Ocean Parkway, Brooklyn New York.
Estimated Age: 20 to 30 years
Weight (pounds) 539, Measured
Height (inches) 80, Measured
Estimated postmortem interval: Minutes
Hair : Sandy Light brown/golden hair up to 3" in length.
Facial hair: stubble on beard and mustache
Eyes: Grey - Light colored irides
Scars and marks: A 4" scar on the inside of the right elbow (antecubitus); two scars on the proximal left tibia, 3" and 5".
Clothing and Accessories Khaki colored cargo shorts, Blue and white striped briefs, gray t-shirt with "GUINESS" written across chest, red and blue stripped beanie with a Spiderman patch, white tube socks. no shoes
Jewelry Piercing of left lower lip (white metal with red ball)
Other items found with body Empty cigarette pack.
Tattoos: "X" tattoos on inner surface of right and left wrists, "GRACE" tattooed on right pectoral.
Physical Characteristics: The letters "KOVW" are written vertically in ink on the sole of the left foot and the letters "CA" are written horizontally below.
Prior surgery Possible prior surgery associated with scars on left knee. Under investigation.
Fingerprints: Fingerprint information is available elsewhere
Dental: Dental information / charting is available and will be entered later.
DNA: Samples submitted - Tests not complete
Circumstances of death
Decedent entered apartment building and stated he was there to see one of the residents. While the doorman was on the phone to call that resident, the decedent ran into the elevator. He was found 20 mins later in the courtyard of the building. The specific apartment he stated he was visiting is unoccupied.
The decedent's information was spread through the local Jewish community with no success. The X tattoos on his wrists may indicate an association with the Straight Edge punk rock sub-culture.
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11-09-2011, 08:22 AM #2
cause of death? I mean, not that it would make me know who he is any better, but it's odd that they didn't state it.I can't complain but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far. - Joe Walsh
11-09-2011, 08:43 AM #3
And socks, but no shoes? He couldn't have come from far?I can't complain but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far. - Joe Walsh
11-09-2011, 09:15 AM #4
11-09-2011, 12:09 PM #5
11-09-2011, 12:27 PM #6
This is only speculation, but it sounds as though he might have tried to distract the doorman for the purpose of getting into the elevator. Did he possibly take the elevator up and then jump from somewhere, and then he was found in the courtyard?
I would hope LE asked the former residents of the apartment he'd asked to visit to see if they knew him, assuming they could be located.
The X's on his wrists do suggest he might have been straightedge, but it's possible he was not at the time of his death since his t-shirt advertised a beer brand and he had an empty cigarette package on him.
Prayers that this young man is identified soon. He was found 16 days before the Occupy movement's first NYC demonstration so I doubt there's a connection there, unless his friends and family believe he joined up with the protesters once they organized.<-- Watched one too many Hanna-Barbera "teenage detective" cartoons as a kid.
11-09-2011, 12:37 PM #7
11-09-2011, 01:28 PM #8
So he went into an apartment complex where no one knew him, wearing only socks, then distracted the doorman so he could make a break for the elevator, just to jump to his death?
Something is definitely missing from THAT story.I can't complain but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far. - Joe Walsh
11-09-2011, 01:50 PM #9
That actually makes a lot of sense to me. Maybe he knew at his weight that even from a lower height he'd crush his heart and die. No shoes and socks, maybe the catalyst. He couldn't put them on.“Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”
― Eleanor Roosevelt
11-09-2011, 01:54 PM #10
So.. I was attempting to find more info out on this situation/ guy when I came across this:
"Eighty-six-year-old Lida Arakelyan fell to her death from her 10th floor apartment at 455 Ocean Parkway yesterday as she was attempting to close a window, according to police and witnesses. The building is located between Cortelyou Road and Ditmas Avenue, closer to Cortelyou. Police don't suspect criminality. Ms. Arakelyan lived with her husband, daughter, and grandchildren."
I just thought it was interesting that a few months ago this woman fell to her death in the same apartment building. Maybe this man knew her in some capacity?
11-09-2011, 01:59 PM #11
Sorry to double post but I found an article on this guy's death. The article claims he jumped.
They're claiming he's in his 40's and lived across the street?
11-09-2011, 02:03 PM #12
Well if he lived across the street, why doesn't anyone know who he is?! What a frustrating story this is!I can't complain but sometimes I still do. Life's been good to me so far. - Joe Walsh
11-09-2011, 02:06 PM #13
Holy crap I lived two blocks away from this street when I first moved to NYC, between Brooklyn and Cortelyou.
It's mostly an older area, very Jewish and not gentrified or cool like some other areas of Brooklyn.
Maybe the story from this lady gave him the idea for jumping.“Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people.”
― Eleanor Roosevelt
11-09-2011, 02:33 PM #14
11-09-2011, 06:27 PM #15Registered User
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a more interesting question is what the tattoo KOVW is supposed to mean. I'm not finding much of anything that makes sense.
some matches on google imply something Greek but there is no way this decedent is Greek. given the location he is probably Russian or one of the former Soviet Republics.
I wonder if he had any sort of accent?
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