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    GA - Lauren Giddings, 27, Macon, 26 June 2011 #12

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    Lauren Teresa Giddings

    April 18, 1984 -- June 26, 2011
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    The Indictment

    The Indictment charging Stephen Mark McDaniel with the vicious murder and decapitation of Lauren Teresa Giddings.
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    From the previous thread...

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    Article is back up. 1 count of murder 30 counts of sexual exploitation of children
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    Warning! This explicit indictment regarding sexual exploitation of children under 18, prepubescent children and infants With adult males is graphic and extremely disturbing. I feel sick. Read at your own risk.


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    tomkat: I still don't know how to bring over a post from the previous thread...but before it closed, you had just posted:

    "So the Indictment repetitiously stated they do not know how or with what but that they think McD did commit her murder...............is that all you need for an indictment????? Does that mean they know NOTHING............STILL???

    I just wanted to say, no, I don't think it necessarily means LE/prosecution has no evidence toward how or with what Lauren was killed -- though it could mean that, and that they are still hoping results toward that will come in. What I think it does mean is that any evidence toward that they might have was not part of what they decided to present to the GJ. Prosecution must have felt pretty secure that an indictment would come in without it.

    Remember, too -- an indictment is really just a way of formalizing the charges and starting the trial process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backwoods View Post
    tomkat: I still don't know how to bring over a post from the previous thread...but before it closed, you had just posted:

    "So the Indictment repetitiously stated they do not know how or with what but that they think McD did commit her murder...............is that all you need for an indictment????? Does that mean they know NOTHING............STILL???

    I just wanted to say, no, I don't think it necessarily means LE/prosecution has no evidence toward how or with what Lauren was killed -- though it could mean that, and that they are<B still hoping results toward that will come inB/>. What I think it does mean is that any evidence toward that they might have was not part of what they decided to present to the GJ. <BProsecution must have felt pretty secure that an indictment would come in without it.B/>

    Remember, too -- an<B indictment is really just a way of formalizing the charges and starting the trial processB/>.
    So we really just don't know, still....but it seems rediculously easy to indict I guess is my point. They have presented nothing more than the fact that Lauren was murdered and dismembered. I just was shocked that there wasn't more and that one only has to be accused of a crime without any real evidence presented, to be indicted for murder. I know what we all think but I'm just, well I guess I was hoping for more from the prosecution.


    But your last statement kind of put it more into perspective for me.

    I just feel for his family and of course we all feel for Lauren's family. I pray they search the grandfathers land soon. I guess that will possibly be part of the prosections efforts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Idreamofgenie View Post
    Warning! This explicit indictment regarding sexual exploitation of children under 18, prepubescent children and infants With adult males is graphic and extremely disturbing. I feel sick. Read at your own risk.
    Where is the link to this indictment...?

    ETA: never mind... it's here:

    http://download.gannett.edgesuite.ne...indictment.pdf
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    Ya'll please help me get my mind wrapped around the child exploitation indictment wording. Does "prepubescent" mean younger than a teenager? They all sickened me. What does the one worded "infant child" mean? A baby? There is a special place in hell for this man just based on this indictment alone, in my opinion.

    Also, glad to see ya'll returning to Lauren's thread.


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    QUOTE:

    McDaniel attorney now considering whether to seek bond



    As of Tuesday afternoon, Stephen McDaniel’s attorney had not determined whether he will continue to seek bond for McDaniel. ...



    read more at: http://www.macon.com/2011/11/15/1787...nsidering.html


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    I am so terribly saddened by this case. She was beautiful and had such a promising future in store for her. She was kind to a sociopath and he killed her. I sincerely wish for Lauren's family that they could find the rest of her remains.
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    That indictment makes me sick.

    Infant child, and prepubescent males and females?

    I want to know if there is a typographical error on the date.

    The dates all range between July 24 and July 29th 2010. ??????

    Also, some of the .jpeg's are numbered. Does that mean they were possibly taken by SM?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    That indictment makes me sick.

    Infant child, and prepubescent males and females?

    I want to know if there is a typographical error on the date.

    The dates all range between July 24 and July 29th 2010. ??????

    Also, some of the .jpeg's are numbered. Does that mean they were possibly taken by SM?
    The dating sure sounds like someone goofed to me... but not sure... possibly some way of dating when they were downloaded (or whatever)? Good catch.

    ETA: Well, no, the more I think about it, it MUST reflect some kind of date stamp, time of acquisition/download, mustn't it...? Because in July 2011, SM was in jail and didn't have in his possession...

    Again, great catch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Also, some of the .jpeg's are numbered. Does that mean they were possibly taken by SM?
    BBM... that was a thought I had earlier when they announced the CP charges went from 7 to 30. My understanding is that it would still be sexual exploitation if he took the images. So, maybe there are not 30 images and some of the counts are that he was involved in creating the images? I don't know. Just throwing it out there.

    I cannot read the indictment. Crimes against children, particularly infants, haunt me. I can't stop thinking about it. If possible can we please not post graphic details about the images here? The whole thing just makes me sick.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MaconMom View Post
    BBM... that was a thought I had earlier when they announced the CP charges went from 7 to 30. My understanding is that it would still be sexual exploitation if he took the images. So, maybe there are not 30 images and some of the counts are that he was involved in creating the images? I don't know. Just throwing it out there.
    Snipped and bolding added -

    I see thirty separate images in the porn indictment. I think there would be more charges if they suspected he had actually taken some of them (more than a single possession charge for each one). Someone else please correct me, if you are seeing or concluding something different.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MaconMom View Post
    BBM... that was a thought I had earlier when they announced the CP charges went from 7 to 30. My understanding is that it would still be sexual exploitation if he took the images. So, maybe there are not 30 images and some of the counts are that he was involved in creating the images? I don't know. Just throwing it out there.

    I cannot read the indictment. Crimes against children, particularly infants, haunt me. I can't stop thinking about it. If possible can we please not post graphic details about the images here? The whole thing just makes me sick.
    bbm: I believe if this was being claimed there would be further (meaning differently named) charges, though not sure


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