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    SAR mapping/satellite of the river

    Going to start here, so we can get a good idea of the water flow, currents, dredging, water traffic, access routes, etc. :

    http://www.nwk.usace.army.mil/gif/district-map.pdf

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    I'm of course crashing my computer with mapping software, but I am interested in E.23rd and 12th St access, E Truman, and the Union Pacific tracks south of there.

    Pick the Kansas River here:
    http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/index.php?wfo=eax
    http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydro...0,7,8,2,9,15,6
    go to history

    Trying to pull up the google image now. Hopefully these do not link as current.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriah View Post
    I'm of course crashing my computer with mapping software, but I am interested in E.23rd and 12th St access, E Truman, and the Union Pacific tracks south of there.

    Pick the Kansas River here:
    http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/index.php?wfo=eax
    http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydro...0,7,8,2,9,15,6
    go to history

    Trying to pull up the google image now. Hopefully these do not link as current.
    Got current on the first one, going to check the second. I have a feeling you may have to screenshot it if you want the past data, that's what I've done in the past anyways.

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    You think there should be a search there?

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    This is some more interesting reading to try and understand the dredging situation:
    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...0MjE2&hl=en_US

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarx View Post
    Got current on the first one, going to check the second. I have a feeling you may have to screenshot it if you want the past data, that's what I've done in the past anyways.
    Ok- I have to go from my desktop in order to screenshot. Will do that later today. Will resort to google in the meantime and see if I can imbed without laptop having a heart attack.

    In the meantime, take a look at N. Brighton S, follow sharp turn W- you'll see three access points within 1/2 a mile. Then follow the river another 2.9 miles. Follow 210 (Armour) then ignore 35 and go to 9. Follow 9. See that spot where there are tons of vehicle access points? Looks to me like that 'path' would have flooded and then whirlpooled. Thoughts?

    Can give coordinates if that is easier for folks using google maps/earth. Maybe that would be easiest.
    Last edited by Oriah; 11-17-2011 at 05:39 PM. Reason: clarification

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriah View Post
    Ok- I have to go from my desktop in order to screenshot. Will do that later today. Will resort to google in the meantime and see if I can imbed without laptop having a heart attack.

    In the meantime, take a look at N. Brighton S, follow sharp turn W- you'll see three access points within 1/2 a mile. Then follow the river another 2.9 miles. See that spot? Looks to me like that 'path' would have flooded and then whirlpooled. Thoughts?
    Yep. I'm on my netbook right now, so the screenshot would be too small, will try to break it down later on the big screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC Mom View Post
    You think there should be a search there?
    I think that if Lisa is in the river, she is nowhere close to where she was put in the river at this point. I think it is valuable to analyze the river and surrounding banks to see where the river may have taken something or someone during the time frame we're looking at.
    HTH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriah View Post
    I think that if Lisa is in the river, she is nowhere close to where she was put in the river at this point. I think it is valuable to analyze the river and surrounding banks to see where the river may have taken something or someone during the time frame we're looking at.
    HTH.
    How recoverable do you think a body in the river would be by now? If it's been this long wouldn't they be looking for tiny, tiny bones?
    I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it left.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriah View Post
    I think that if Lisa is in the river, she is nowhere close to where she was put in the river at this point. I think it is valuable to analyze the river and surrounding banks to see where the river may have taken something or someone during the time frame we're looking at.
    HTH.
    Thank you for doing this research Oriah and all. I agree with you that in the worst case scenario, Lisa was placed in the water and is downriver somewhere. Could she be encased in a container and could this factor in how this container would move downstream?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriah View Post
    I think that if Lisa is in the river, she is nowhere close to where she was put in the river at this point. I think it is valuable to analyze the river and surrounding banks to see where the river may have taken something or someone during the time frame we're looking at.
    HTH.
    Also, where the hang up points in a river going downstream could hang a body up. This is a VERY good idea!!
    Last edited by mamamia54; 11-17-2011 at 07:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriah View Post
    Ok- I have to go from my desktop in order to screenshot. Will do that later today. Will resort to google in the meantime and see if I can imbed without laptop having a heart attack.

    In the meantime, take a look at N. Brighton S, follow sharp turn W- you'll see three access points within 1/2 a mile. Then follow the river another 2.9 miles. Follow 210 (Armour) then ignore 35 and go to 9. Follow 9. See that spot where there are tons of vehicle access points? Looks to me like that 'path' would have flooded and then whirlpooled. Thoughts?

    Can give coordinates if that is easier for folks using google maps/earth. Maybe that would be easiest.
    Forgive me if I am misunderstanding this but, the area on the river you are describing would be up stream from the N. Brighton area. If you look at the Chouteau bridge on the Missouri river, that would be very close. There have been things from here that have washed up in the Lexington Missouri area so there must be something with the way the water flows at that point to causes this to happen. HTH and sorry if I have misunderstood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsMoJustice View Post
    Forgive me if I am misunderstanding this but, the area on the river you are describing would be up stream from the N. Brighton area. If you look at the Chouteau bridge on the Missouri river, that would be very close. There have been things from here that have washed up in the Lexington Missouri area so there must be something with the way the water flows at that point to causes this to happen. HTH and sorry if I have misunderstood.
    Yes, the river flows here west to east.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsMoJustice View Post
    Forgive me if I am misunderstanding this but, the area on the river you are describing would be up stream from the N. Brighton area. If you look at the Chouteau bridge on the Missouri river, that would be very close. There have been things from here that have washed up in the Lexington Missouri area so there must be something with the way the water flows at that point to causes this to happen. HTH and sorry if I have misunderstood.
    No you are not misunderstanding- I am poorly explaining, lol. The E/W/N/S thing always seems to get screwed up with water flow, especially curvy rivers and changing altitudes. I do this all the time because I am using a different mapping program- then try to convert to google (just ask sarx!) Sorry to confuse.

    It seems like in this instance (using Lisa's home as a starting point) that driving TO the river would run perpendicular to the river flow. So yes, things moved by the water would technically be upstream- but the river access points would be 'downstream' (if on the north bank) but if we're looking at the south bank- the reverse. I was hoping to identify areas of interest where something or someone might get caught up with the changing water levels and flow. Does that make any sense?

    Gosh, I am going to confuse everyone again. I'm sorry!

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    Quote Originally Posted by In da Middle View Post
    Yes, the river flows here west to east.
    So, the river actually flows west to east, meaning that three legs of the river flow into one practually in the heart of Kansas City? So, something that was thrown into the water in Avondale, would run in the direction of Randolph?

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