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  1. #61
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    Why don't you start a thread for the UID and post your other guy in that thread as a possible match?

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    Anyone ever heard of this case? http://www.columbiavalleypioneer.com/?p=6211 I'm going to start a thread for her, but in the meantime if it rings any bells with anyone...

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    Canada's RCMP has launched a website for MP's and UID's:

    http://www.canadasmissing.ca

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    I'm wondering how close investigators usually are regarding age of an UID, especially if they're looking at a skeleton.

    I'm also curious to know how they know how long a body has been there. What's the difference between 3 years and 5 years when it comes to skeletal remains?

    I'm looking at an UID who is thought to be 18-22 years old at time of death and they think she was dead for 2-3 years before being found. Based on that should I rule out someone who would have been 32 at the time the body was found?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeeMamaRun View Post
    I'm wondering how close investigators usually are regarding age of an UID, especially if they're looking at a skeleton.

    I'm also curious to know how they know how long a body has been there. What's the difference between 3 years and 5 years when it comes to skeletal remains?

    I'm looking at an UID who is thought to be 18-22 years old at time of death and they think she was dead for 2-3 years before being found. Based on that should I rule out someone who would have been 32 at the time the body was found?

    Thanks!
    As a general rule, the younger a person is, the more accurately they can estimate the person's age. The age of children can be estimated within a year or two. The range widens to about 2-3 years for persons between 18 and 22.

    If they are saying that this skeleton is from a person 18-22, this probably means that most of the growth plates have fused, but the clavicles (collarbones) have still not fused. For a person 32 years old, it is very probable that all growth plates have fused, and they wouldn't be seeing unfused growth plates in the clavicles.

    There have been instances where they badly missed the mark on estimating age, but that doesn't happen very often.

  6. #66
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    Thank you Carl!

    Are they generally accurate in estimating how long a skeleton has been there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SeeMamaRun View Post
    Thank you Carl!

    Are they generally accurate in estimating how long a skeleton has been there?
    If less than 1-2 years, pretty accurate. More than that, less so.

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    I am not sure where to post this...I did a search for this UID/case and could not find anything on him on here. Maybe I did not search correctly? Jesse Hayes/Jessie Stacy 2 ID's with remains in North Idaho.

    http://www.ktvb.com/news/Sheriff-see...194394131.html

    http://www.idahostatesman.com/2013/0...#storylink=rss

    First thought was witness protection person or new identity. I also found a few who may be him on Namus...

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/913/0

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4463/8

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/931/24

    If this is posted somewhere else, I apologize. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish_Eyes View Post
    Why don't you start a thread for the UID and post your other guy in that thread as a possible match?
    Thanks so much for the response. I just got back online after several months (my computer died), so it will take me a bit to get all my ducks in a row, and re-acquaint myself with what I had found (I still have all the links and such though).

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    Cook County, Illinois to begin posting photos of unclaimed bodies online

    http://www.myfoxchicago.com/story/21...-bodies-online

    Here's the link to the site:
    http://www.cookcountygov.com/portal/...ed_persons/735


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    Interesting article about a new rehydration technique being used to identify remains in Mexico.

    http://www.elpasotimes.com/news/ci_2...ess-id-remains

    Dr. Alejandro Hernandez Cardenas and his assistants prepare to work on a mummified corpse found in Juarez. Hernandez has developed a technique for rehydrating cadavers and extracting DNA material from them in hopes of identifying people who have died.
    ...
    "We can recover their fingerprints and any scars, birthmarks or tattoos they had that can help identify them. Also, we can learn how they died because wounds and even bruises become visible," Hernández said.

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    I got word from one of the NamUs RSA's that they have been so inundated with requests for manual checks of possible matches that the leader of their lab "put her foot down".

    They are no longer going to do manual comparisons, unless requested to do so by law enforcement.

    She added that comprehensive comparison of all DNA profiles is performed monthly, so any MP's with NamUs DNA profiles are automatically compared to those UID cases with DNA profiles.

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    After 15-year search, Nashville mom finds son in pauper's grave

    Member BunnyHop asked me to post this sad story. I think this is the appropriate place to post it.

    Aug. 4, 2013 3:24 AM
    Written byBrian Haas
    The Tennessean
    His gravestone simply read, “John (19) Doe.”
    He was the 19th unidentified man buried in the Bordeaux Cemetery. He lies in plot #555, a grave overlooking the Whites Creek Wastewater Treatment Plant. And around him lie 1,001 others who died penniless and, in some cases, unmourned...

    Nolan filed a missing persons report on April 12, 1998, but police were not optimistic...

    While police overlooked the possible connection between the missing man and the sudden appearance of an unidentified murder victim wrapped in a burned carpet, LeRyan’s mother was looking everywhere for her son...

    In 2012, on what would have been LeRyan’s 33rd birthday, Williams stumbled upon a government website called NAMUS. The site contains nationwide databases for missing persons, unidentified remains and unclaimed bodies.
    Williams searched around the time LeRyan went missing. She got an immediate hit, that of a young man whose burned remains were found at the end of Mary Street.
    John Doe.
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  14. #74
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    Thanks Bessie for your help. I wasn't sure where to post it.

    It made me cry.


    He has been identified by DNA.

    Glad his Mom found closure, and kudos to his Sister for her vigilance.

    After 15-year search, Nashville mom finds son in pauper's grave

    http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...WS01/308040086

    R.I.P. LeRyan Nicholson

    Sylvia Nolan's son, LeRyan Nicholson, disappeared in 1998. Through anguish, prayers and her family's detective work, she discovered in March that he had been killed and buried as 'John (19) Doe' in a pauper's grave 3 miles from her home.

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    They never put two and two together when LeRyan Nicholson went missing April 12, 1998, only to have the burned body of a young man matching his description show up the very next day.
    Unbelievable.

    Thanks for sharing, BunnyHop.

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