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    NY - New York City, BlkMale 1609UMNY, 20-30, USMC Tattoo, Jun'97

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1609umny.html


    Vital Statistics:
    Estimated age: 20-30 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'7"; 130 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Shaved head; brown eyes.
    Tattoos: Elaborate "USMC" tattoo in blue on left upper arm.
    Clothing: Navy t-shirt, size XL, gray cutoff sweatpants, black Levi jeans, size 34/30, tan or brown cloth belt, brown plaid jacket, size XL. White Fila sneakers, size 8.5.
    Dentals: Available
    Fingerprints: Available

    Case History:
    The victim was located electrocuted on the third rail on the southbound D train tracks at the 145th Street and St. Nicholas Avenue Station.
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 04-09-2013 at 12:25 AM.

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    Here is the NamUs link. https://identifyus.org/cases/6814

    I believe he was a US Marine. I would think this would be an easy case to solve, I'm not sure why it hasn't been yet...?

    Photos available at site...

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    Perhaps he was on his way from one destination to another and no one has made the connection?

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    Strange that there is no DNA sample.

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    Found this guy who was a marine.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/scott_robert.html

    His age is a few years out of the range, but I have seen so many of the ranges be wrong that I thought I would mention him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by distracted 1976 View Post
    Found this guy who was a marine.

    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/scott_robert.html

    His age is a few years out of the range, but I have seen so many of the ranges be wrong that I thought I would mention him.
    Have you been able to find him in any other site? I wish they all had the same people listed. I would like to see any other photos. He looks really young in this one.

    Does the military fingerprint everyone that enlists? I think they do, but what is the process for matching up fingerprints? Is it a database like DNA? or do they have to compare each and every one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
    Strange that there is no DNA sample.
    I thought it was odd too. I am confused about the whole DNA process anyways. I have seen some that are listed as 'DNA available but not yet submitted' and they have been in the system for years. Any idea why they would do that?

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    I was looking at the tattoo and noticed that the top says "Force" and at the bottom it says "Recon." Force Recon is a special forces unit of the Marines. Someone has got to reconize this person. He was in the Special Forces! Is there any way to submit him to the military to see if they have any soldiers that are missing...possibly AWOL?
    United States Marine Corps Force Reconnaissance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Last edited by KateB; 05-01-2015 at 08:34 AM. Reason: repair url tag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherBearSTL View Post
    I was looking at the tattoo and noticed that the top says "Force" and at the bottom it says "Recon." Force Recon is a special forces unit of the Marines. See United States Marine Corps Force Reconnaissance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for more info. Someone has got to reconize this person. He was in the Special Forces! Is there any way to submit him to the military to see if they have any soldiers that are missing...possibly AWOL?
    I was thinking the same thing! I'm not sure who to contact. I will see if I can get any info from a friend of mine who is USMC also.

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    I wish there was a list of soldiers that went AWOL during that time, but there isn't. There is a message board for all Marines that I thought about posting on. Do you think that might be a good place to get info? It seems that the Force Recon groups would be pretty small. Not to mention, we know that he wasn't very old, so we can probably pinpoint his service to between 1987-1997. I would guess that he was in his mid 20s though, so his service date was probably somewhere around 1992-93 during the first Gulf War.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CherBearSTL View Post
    I wish there was a list of soldiers that went AWOL during that time, but there isn't. There is a message board for all Marines that I thought about posting on. Do you think that might be a good place to get info? It seems that the Force Recon groups would be pretty small. Not to mention, we know that he wasn't very old, so we can probably pinpoint his service to between 1987-1997. I would guess that he was in his mid 20s though, so his service date was probably somewhere around 1992-93 during the first Gulf War.
    It would be worth a try. I'm trying to get in touch with an MP I know, maybe he can help...

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    If I am understanding this correctly it looks like 1st Forces Recon is based out of Camp Pendleton, CA

    http://www.marines.mil/unit/marsoc/P...e%20Recon.aspx

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    I did a search of MP in NY State and have come up with two possibilities. Both weights are a little heavier than the listed UID, as are the heights a little taller.

    Vodre Norelus: https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/10322/115/
    Owen Powell: https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/4427/111/

    I'm not too confident in the 2nd one since his age when he went missing was 43-44.

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    I really have a strong feeling that this guy was never reported missing because they think he is AWOL. It just suprises me that no family is looking for him. He would be easily identifiable...his picture is there. I sent an email to the mods at the Marine veterans website. I will let you know if I hear anything back. Does anyone know why he wouldn't have been fingerprinted by the ME?

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    I sent an email last night to the Medical Examiner in NYC listed on his NamUs profile. Hopefully they have some more info that they can share with us.

    I saw a few websites last night that had to deal directly with 1st Force Recon but I wasn't really sure what to say on a message board? I'm still new at this! I also found someone who was listed on the site as having served in 1st Force in 1993. It listed an email address but again, I wasnt sure what to say or if it would be worth contacting him.

    Any idea how long their term would be for 1st Force? 1 year? And then transfer to anther duty station? On that site linked below it listed a person as having served in 86/93. So I wasn't sure if that meant from 1986 to 1993 or if it was separate times. Not sure how that works? Anybody have any idea?

    http://www.1streconbnassociation.org/1stForce.htm

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