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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    I am going to send an email to the Brownsville, TX Police Department to see if I can get any more info on Robert King Scott. Hopefully they will be willing to help! I will let you know what I find out (if anything).
    I created a thread for Robert King Scott

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7443158#post7443158"]http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7443158#post7443158[/ame]



    I received a reply from Brownsville, PD stating that Det. Martinez will look into this and get back to me as soon as he has an answer.

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    Possibility, but perhaps a long shot - Anthony Lofston http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...n_anthony.html

    Height and weight are correct for our UID man. Anthony has an upper arm tattoo, though i cannot find a picture or description of it anywhere :/ Time frame fits: Anthony disappeared in 1994, three years before our gentleman was found in NYC. Perhaps enough time for a stint in the marines, or other service?

    Wish I could find a better picture of Anthony. His cheekbones do look similar to the facial structure of our UID man, but I can't get a good look at his nose shape, and the lips look a little off (our Doe's mouth looks a bit wider horizontally, perhaps).

    Might be worth a look into, at least as far as finding out what Anthony's tattoo was.

    Thinking of this unidentified man... So sad that he died alone, and is still without his name and a place to rest among loved ones.
    “Peace is not the product of terror or fear. Peace is not the silence of cemeteries. Peace is not the silent result of violent repression. Peace is the generous, tranquil contribution of all to the good of all." -Abp Oscar Romero

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    Per a request from CherBearSTL and Wanting2Help, I did a recon of this John Doe.

    Last edited by CarlK90245; Yesterday at 06:36 PM.

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    Thank you so much CarlK !!!

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    You're the best Carl. This looks perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
    I found this site for the NCIS, but I don't think that helps here. At least we know there are sites like this, however. I didn't see any for other branches of the armed forces.

    http://www.ncis.navy.mil/ContactUs/P...ngPersons.aspx
    I just sent an email to NCIS. Not sure if they can/will help but at least I tried!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    My friend gave me this link as a source for Absentee Marine Collection... It says once the warrant is issued for UA or Deserter the records go to:



    Would someone feel comfortable calling? I am still so new at this I'm not really sure what questions to ask.

    My friend did not know if they could search records in reverse (without a name).

    http://www.hqmc.usmc.mil/PP&O/PS/psl...Collection.asp
    Quote Originally Posted by Oriah View Post
    I'll happily call. Thanks!
    Oriah,
    Were you able to make the call to see if someone @ NCIC could help with the Absentee Marine Collection records?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriah View Post
    My experience is mostly with army and airforce, so I called an army friend (specializes in POW searches) yesterday to see if he had any thoughts. He said he would try to get hold of a marine in records who might be able to help.
    In the meantime, I'm wondering if this man had any chemical substances in his body at the time? Did he have food in his stomach? Was he taken to a hospital prior to the ME? Seems like the ME should have all this info on file.

    For a visual on the subway station I believe he may have been at (or traveling to/from):

    IND St Nicholas Ave Line: R46 A Train at 145th St (Uptown Bound) - YouTube

    This poor guy- I am really bothered by the fact that he seems to have no one who cares who he was.
    Any word from your friend? TIA

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    I wonder if it would be worthwhile to contact this show to see if they could run his photo/info...?

    http://tvone.tv/about/find-our-missing-about-the-show

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    I sent another email to the ME. He responded this time and said "Fingerprints were handled by the NYPD. They would have run them locally, at the NY state level, and eventually up to the FBI. We do not currently have a DNA sample for this case as this was before samples were taken on every case as part of routine. He is currently at city burial".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    I sent another email to the ME. He responded this time and said "Fingerprints were handled by the NYPD. They would have run them locally, at the NY state level, and eventually up to the FBI. We do not currently have a DNA sample for this case as this was before samples were taken on every case as part of routine. He is currently at city burial".
    I know that she said they "would have run them locally..." but the question is DID they run them? I wonder if she would consider getting some DNA from him with the grant money they got. We know they have the funds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    Any word from your friend? TIA
    Yes- he said he would try and find what info had actually been collected. Still waiting to hear the facts on that. Was horrified at the number of MP's that might match an AWOL.

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    I replied to the ME and asked him if the remains were actually buried or if they were retrievable to process for a DNA sample. I will let you know if/when I hear something.

    I'm not sure where "city burial" is. Is that a cemetary? I googled but couldn't find anything. Does anyone have access to the web site to find a grave?

    Also, I will be speaking with the reporter again tonight if anyone has anything they want me to mention to him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    I replied to the ME and asked him if the remains were actually buried or if they were retrievable to process for a DNA sample. I will let you know if/when I hear something.

    I'm not sure where "city burial" is. Is that a cemetary? I googled but couldn't find anything. Does anyone have access to the web site to find a grave?

    Also, I will be speaking with the reporter again tonight if anyone has anything they want me to mention to him...
    I'm thinking potter's field? I have find-a-grave access. Maybe cremated? I'm not sure if that jurisdiction can cremate without consent though... Going to see if I can find that info now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriah View Post
    I'm thinking potter's field? I have find-a-grave access. Maybe cremated? I'm not sure if that jurisdiction can cremate without consent though... Going to see if I can find that info now.
    I was confused because he said "he is currently at city burial." Maybe I'm reading too much into it but because he used the word "currently" it implies to me that he could be moved. Maybe he is accessible for DNA sampling???

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    I'm still wondering about the weight listed for him. For 5'7" 130lbs is really thin.

    According to this link a male at that height should weigh:

    Small Frame 138-145 lbs
    Medium Frame 142-154 lbs
    Large Frame 149-168 lbs

    http://www.healthchecksystems.com/heightweightchart.htm

    There have been a few guys I have ruled out based on the weight. I'm wondering if that weight was entered wrong? His arm in the photo looks pretty filled out to me. I wouldn't think he would have that type of muscle and be considered very underweight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Per a request from CherBearSTL and Wanting2Help, I did a recon of this John Doe.

    He looks similar to me.... Dates & height are off..?




    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/12138
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    I sent an email to this site. Hoping they can list him. http://www.blackandmissinginc.com/cdad/index.cfm

    They are mentioned on the "Find our Missing" website. With all of the publicity the show is creating maybe someone will recognize him....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    He looks similar to me.... Dates & height are off..?




    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/12138
    At first glance I thought that you had found him, but a couple of things stand out to me that make me believe that it's probably not:
    1) This guy was only 19. I have a feeling the UID was much older than that.
    2) His eyebrows don't have the same arch as the UID.
    3) His ears appear to be attached at the lobes and the UIDs were not.

    But I think he is the closest facial match that I have ever seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    I sent an email to this site. Hoping they can list him. http://www.blackandmissinginc.com/cdad/index.cfm

    They are mentioned on the "Find our Missing" website. With all of the publicity the show is creating maybe someone will recognize him....
    I heard back from them already and they will do all that they can to assist in identifying John Doe.

    A little more exposure can't hurt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    I heard back from them already and they will do all that they can to assist in identifying John Doe.

    A little more exposure can't hurt!
    Wanting2Help, you are awesome.

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    Thanks Oriah! I just wish I had an email address for the LE handling the case. I would keep at them until they replied too! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    I heard back from them already and they will do all that they can to assist in identifying John Doe.

    A little more exposure can't hurt!
    Here is his new profile!!!

    http://www.blackandmissinginc.com/cd...singInfoID=939

    He is also listed under their cold cases section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CherBearSTL View Post
    At first glance I thought that you had found him, but a couple of things stand out to me that make me believe that it's probably not:
    1) This guy was only 19. I have a feeling the UID was much older than that.
    2) His eyebrows don't have the same arch as the UID.
    3) His ears appear to be attached at the lobes and the UIDs were not.

    But I think he is the closest facial match that I have ever seen.
    I keep coming back to him wondering if its still possible even though there are some differences. His eybrows could change in a few years time. I know I look different in almost every photo taken. And he would would have been 21 in 1997. I wonder when this photo was taken? I did see the difference in his ear lobes but I thought it might have been the angle the photo was taken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wanting2Help View Post
    He looks similar to me.... Dates & height are off..?




    https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/show/12138
    I sent an email to the Arkansas crime lab with Robert as a possible match to John Doe even though there are some differences. I will let you know if I hear back...

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