11-19-2011, 12:07 AM #151
Update per www.wkmg.com not posted yet. I just heard it.
Police said Michelle's phone was never in Waterford. It was a decoy#prayfororlando
11-19-2011, 12:10 AM #152“Every day that they don’t find something is good for me.“ Billie Dunn
11-19-2011, 12:11 AM #153Registered User
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People's Court Transcript: Part Two
Voice: These litigants were together for five years, engaged with twins, but they liked to drink a lot together. And she says he often got very drunk and very angry. It all came to a head at a sci fi convention when the subject of cheating came up. Something they were both very familiar with. Let's listen.
JM: Okay, now the door was open, he's standing just outside the door. What is behind him?
MP: a balcony
JM: Where'd the ring go?
MP: He says it went down, downstairs.
JM: Where did you see the ring go?
MP: I saw it land here (points to her chest), I aimed it right at his chest.
JM: But he didn't then go to look for it. He didn't bend over?
MP: He didn't do anything that I recall, I just remember turning around grabbing some of my stuff and I remember him saying to the officer “can I go down and look for it.” They went down to look for it and
JM: So it's not made up that the ring went overboard.
MP: well, you never know..
JM: No, I do know, because if he's saying “can I go down and look for it” they've all just looked down at the floor and it's not there.
JM: Then what happened?
MP: From that point, I packed the rest of my stuff in clear bags and he decided he was gonna leave, he left me and two of his other friends in Atlanta, um, early in the morning he drove home just after that happened. And luckily I had enough money in my account to rent a car.
JM: So you drove the car from Atlanta to?
MP: To our house, where he was
JM: Which is where?
MP: in Orlando.
JM: And then when you get there what happens?
MP: And then after that, got in the car, he followed me to the airport to turn it back to the rental car
JM: No, no no no, wait, what happened. Don't skip that. You get to the house, it's now the next day
MP: We get to the house, everything's fine. He's crying, I'm crying, he's sorry, I'm sorry. He's sitting on the floor, I'm sitting on his lap. That was really all that it was. We brushed it under the rug and I stayed with him for a few more months after that until we got into another argument and I mentioned that I might move out, to a friend, in the heat of the moment which I wasn't planning on doing. A couple weeks were going by, he was going out of town, got wind that I was (uses hands to make quotation marks) talking about moving out, which I wasn't and
JM: No, you said you were.
MP: No, I wasn't moving out,
JM: No, but you said that you had said that you were.
MP: Oh yeah, no, well I was talking to a friend and I was like “well maybe I should just move out, you know, this isn't going to work, we keep trying, we keep doing this we're in and out, in and out”
JM: It's clearly not gonna work, it's clearly not gonna work, it's clearly not gonna work.
MP: Yeah, obviously not, so
JM: By the way, this is not for the sake of the kids. This is because you're like drugs to each other, you're addicted to each other. But this is a very, very bad idea. Because it is not good for children to grow up in this kind of conflict. It is very very bad for them.
MP: Oh, absolutely not
JM: It is so much better for them if each of you move on, and have a sane, mature adult relationship with another human being than it is for you two to continue to do this
MP: That's all that I want, I agree 100%
JM: And I'm not talking about the dress-up
JM: You don't have a single picture (to DS)
MP: We've been apart now...
JM: I'm not gonna friend you on Facebook, I want a picture here, go ahead.
MP: I don't, so anyway we returned the car, I stayed with him, oh go back we had another argument which, of course, that's bound to happen, just swept that one under the rug, here comes another one. He was going out of town for a bachelor party, so to be in control of the situation, to make sure that I wasn't leaving, he himself went to U-Haul, rented a U-Haul, .packed most of my belongings, most of the kids' belongings into a U-Haul and dropped me off and the three kids, cause I have an 11-year old prior to a two-bedroom house.
JM: Who's two-bedroom house?
MP: My mother's, just dropped us off with the U-Haul with some of our stuff and said “here you go” and left.
JM: Actually that was sort of helpful because if you were gonna move out for real, then he moved you out.
MP: Well, um, yeah, it got everything started
DS: The reason I got the U-Haul was because I came home from work on two different occasions and she had took the kids and left and took a bunch of my property as well. So I wasn't gonna have her move out a third time
MP: That was after the Craigs list ad where he mailed pictures of himself to other people
JM: Wow! Wow, it just doesn't end with you two.
MP: It doesn't
JM: So tell me about the ring going over board
DS: She threw the ring and it bounced over the railing and down nine floors. I looked over the railing and I tried to keep an eye on the ring
JM: could you see it? What do you mean you tried to keep an eye on it?
DS: I tried to see where it landed
JM: You could actually see in the dark?
DS: It was the hotel lobby, it was all lit up
JM: Oh it's an atrium
DS: It's an atrium, yes
JM: So it's a corridor, there's open air, so it's open, but it's covered and it's going down nine flights, ten flights.
DS: Yes, there's about 500 people down in the lobby
JM: Good God above, so did they know what was going on
DS: No we were nine flights up
JM: Yeah, but still, there's a commotion going on. You don't think everyone in the atrium is looking up “ah, it's raining a diamond ring”. Were you able to find the diamond ring?
JM: Do you tell her “you've got to pay me for the ring?”
DS: Well she said she was gonna pay me back with her tax return.
JM: So you tell her you're gonna pay me for the ring?
DS: Yes, and she says “well I need to get my boobs redone, it's been eight years
(MP laughs sarcastically)
JM: “I need to get my boobs redone, so I don't have any money for the ring?”
MP: No, shakes her head, smiling
DS: Then she ends up buying some spray tanning equipment to start a spray-tanning business and um.
JM: but according to you she says I'll pay you back for the ring
MP: And according to you what?
MP: No ma'am, he said that maybe when we get our tax returns, he would pay for half, I would pay for half and we can get the engagement ring back. But at this point, we split up, went our separate ways, obviously we're not getting back together the engagement ring, unfortunately was a loss
JM: What theory do you have that he doesn't see a penny for any of this, is what? that you gave it to him?
MP: I threw it at him, I gave it to him.
JM: He should have been a better catch?
MP: Yeah, he should have been, and he shouldn't have put his hands on me and he shouldn't have put his hands on me prior. He shouldn't have left me 3 or 4 times over the past year and a half that we've been together. Took my own truck and left me at Sea World, that was another one. For reasons I don't deserve. It's been a helluva roller-coaster ride and it's poison and we're done. He doesn't deserve it.
JM: Really, this time you're really done?
JM: What's going on with visitation with the kids?
MP: He's not taking his visitation right now.
11-19-2011, 12:21 AM #154
Ok, I don't see it here so I am going to post it. Keep in mind that this was my first time doing something like this so the quality may not be the greatest.
If I am not supposed to post this let me know and I will delete it.
Excuse the barking dogs.
Last edited by DairyGirl; 11-19-2011 at 12:49 AM.WHAT IF THE HOKEY POKEY IS WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT?
11-19-2011, 12:29 AM #155The purity of a person's heart can be quickly
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11-19-2011, 12:33 AM #156
11-19-2011, 01:06 AM #157Registered User
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People's Court Transcript: Part Three
JM: How long's it been since you've seen the twins?
DS: It's been three weeks right now
JM: Why do you let three weeks go by and not see your kids, they're three?
MP: 26 days. And it's been their birthday..
DS: She didn't invite me to their birthday, she didn't tell me where their party was at.
MP: I got subpenaed the day before
JM: Whatever problems you two juveniles have, okay, because you act more, my 14 year old has a more mature relationship with her boyfriend than you guys do.
MP: I try to be mature, it's hard
JM: No, you don't. You're both like complete idiots, please stop. You have to at least say to yourselves, we brought the twins into the world. We love our children. Do you love your children?
DS: Yes, I love my children.
JM: Do you love your children?
JM: Okay. You have to at least, at least, effectively co-parent them. That's the only cooperation you two need to have.
MP: I totally agree.
JM: Because you can't possibly think it's in the best interest for them not to have seen him in three weeks.
MP: No, absolutely not, he's not taking it.
JM: You can't think it's in their best interest to say “I wasn't invited to the party” because obviously you haven't made an effort because she's sorta mad that you haven't seen them. No I don't want to hear it. I don't want to hear it, I don't what to hear anybody's justifications. You know your conscience. You know what you've allowed, what you haven't allowed. You know what you've bothered yourselves to do and what you haven't bothered yourselves to do. If she doesn't let you see the kids then you go to court about it. And if she does let you and you don't do it because you're having a bad time with her then you're just a bad father. It's just that simple. Because the kids need, a three-year-old is missing their father, they're missing their father. So you don't punish them in order to punish her. That's crazy.
MP: That's exactly what it is.
JM: Let me explain to you engagement law: (goes into an explanation about the different states and their engagement laws). A lot of states have a different rule which is you guys break up, judge has to figure out who's fault it is, person who's fault it's not gets to keep the ring, or get back ring. Which is crazy nuts because I have to figure out and then who did what and then you threw a drink and then you threw a camera and you went to DragonCon and then you...it's insanity. Yet, still other states look at something which I think is even more insane than that which is who broke up with who. Because if someone beats you and you break up with them, really, you should break up with them, but we're gonna penalize you 5,000 dollars because you broke up with them. That's not what happened here, I'm giving you an example of how absurd that rule would be. You live in Florida, my fine state. And in my fine state, it's who broke up with who. We have a little bit of a different scenario here. Because the who broke up with who scenario is that she kept the ring and she still has it on her. And she says, I'm not giving it up because that was a gift and I get to keep it. Then a judge has to sit here and apply the engagement ring law of whatever state you are from.
JM: Right? Because we apply, on People's Court, we apply the law from whatever state you're from. I don't have that. I have a different scenario. I have a scenario where both sides, you essentially don't disagree on the facts, other than you say he should of caught it, okay, you know that that ring went overboard or he wouldn't have gone like a bat outta hell down that way and asked the cops and then run down and look for it and everything else.
MP: I threw it at him (or something, I can't quite make it out)
JM: So then what happened. Who's fault is that? You're position is (to DS), Judge it's completely her fault because she's a jerk and she threw it at me and then that's why it got lost. I didn't throw it at me and it went overboard, in fact she meant for it to go overboard, Judge, because she knew it would go overboard when she threw it overboard.. Okay, and your position is (to MP)this is incredibly heated because I got left, I got manhandled,he treats me like garbage, he was putting me out, he wouldn't let me be in the hotel, I had no money, and no friends in Atlanta. So what did he expect, yeah, it wasn't gonna be civil. You know what I think? I think it's both your faults just like you both thought it was when you forgave each other and went back for a month. Where you guys had the plan, according to you, you admit, that you would both pay, each pay for half of the scenario. Okay. And so that's what I'm going to order you to pay, because you are the one who threw it. I'm not gonna make you pay for all of it, I'm gonna make you pay for half of it. That's my verdict. Judgment for the plaintiff in the amount of $2500.00
CC: First out of the courtroom is the defendant right here, step on in here, so he gets half, you have to pay half.
MP: That's fine, he doesn't deserve either half after what he's done and put me through, but it is what it is.
CC: So you accept 50% of the blame?
CC: So then he gets half.
CC: This fatal attraction relationship here, is there still anything left to it?
MP: No, it's over.
CC: Well that's the twins' dad
CC: So, there has to be some co-parenting done, can you get that done?
MP: I'm trying the best that I can if he would take his visitation but he won't to be vindictive towards me.
CC: So step in, you're still looking at your phone here as you come out, don't look at that now. Just talk to us and tell me how you feel about what you came out with.
DS: I'm a little bit upset, I never agreed to pay for half the ring, she agreed to pay for it all.when she threw it. I mean it was her drunken rage, she didn't throw the ring to me, you know, there was no way I could have caught it. If I would have dove for it I would have dove over the balcony as well.
CC: Alright, the visitation and the co-parenting.
DS: She's mad because I was suing her so she wouldn't let me see my kids for their birthday, she didn't want to let me have them the last weekend, and then when I asked this past weekend to have them she said “absolutely not”.
CC: I mean but there's a long life, a long future here
DS: I've never, oh yeah, I mean, we have to be together for the rest of our lives. You know, and as far as I'm concerned it's done. She's the one. She sent me this text message last night saying she still cares, she's just so confused. You know so now she's changing her story again. She's bi-polar.
11-19-2011, 06:08 AM #158
Depends on what you count as shopping. If it was just to pick up a couple of things (groceries, birthday/Christmas gifts that are on sale, something little she needs that night because hers broke, whatever), an hour or two is more than enough time. 95% of my shopping is done in under an hour. I mean, it's probably a completely irrelevant point considering the other circumstances, but I think it's important to keep things in perspective so that something vital isn't overlooked. My thoughts and good wishes are with Michelle's family, and I hope she is brought home safe and well soon.
11-19-2011, 09:52 AM #159
11-19-2011, 09:59 AM #160
Thanks for the transcript ingra...Wow, he's blaming everything on her. Sounds sooooo familiar. "Her drunken rage" "she's confused" "she's bi-polar"....We've all heard this stuff before, blame the victim.Proud WS N-LIB
11-19-2011, 10:11 AM #161
In this video it has been released her Hummer was found at the Millenia Mall. It also says ex BF's home was searched and items taken.
Here is a map I made and I hope I don't blow the margins.
A - Kids dropped off
B - Bell Isle where her phone powered off
C - Jessie Blacks - where command post is set up
D - grandparents of twins
E - Millennia Mall where her Hummer was found with the stickers missing
Here in this video the ex's father says he was with him the whole time she's been supposed to be gone.
Please Pray for Michelle.#prayfororlando
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11-19-2011, 10:33 AM #163Registered User
Her family thinks Michelle's ex-boyfriend may know something. The couple were recently on an episode of the People's Court, arguing over that same SUV.
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“He was mad because the truck was in his name and he wanted it out of his name, now the truck has been found and he's not,” said Michelle's mother Yvonne Stewart.
Police told News 13 they do not have any suspects. They did confirm Michelle and her ex-boyfriend did have a violent history.
11-19-2011, 10:45 AM #164
I know very little about cell phones, though I own one. It works--I've got that part. Could someone explain what is meant by the following statement?
The family said they became worried when her brother texted Parker asking where she was, and she responded "Waterford."
"The police said her phone was never in Waterford. They searched the towers, that was a decoy," said Stewart.
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11-19-2011, 10:45 AM #165
As of last night, Dale was at his condo when the media was there.
Video of media report from 11/18/11 showing Dale at home. http://www.wftv.com/news/news/police...g-woman/nFg3d/
Now in this report it states: “He was mad because the truck was in his name and he wanted it out of his name, now the truck has been found and he's not,” said Michelle's mother Yvonne Stewart.
Is Michele's mother now saying Dale is not around or could it be it's a typo and it should read: "and she's not".
These articles are so frustrating.
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