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    FL - Jacksonville, WhtMale 1040UMFL, 40-55, Hit by Tractor Trailer on I-10, Apr'83

    NamUs: https://identifyus.org/cases/800
    Florida Unidentified Decedents Database: http://www.fluiddb.com/php/details10.php?case=254

    The Doe Network: http://doenetwork.org/cases/1040umfl.html

    Case File 1040UMFL


    Reconstruction of Victim
    Unidentified White Male


    • The victim was discovered on April 8, 1983 in Jacksonville, Duval County, Florida
    • Estimated Date of Death: Minutes


    Vital Statistics


    • Estimated age: 40-55 years old
    • Approximate Height and Weight: 5'8-5'9" ; 174 lbs.
    • Distinguishing Characteristics: Short, brown and gray hair, frontal balding; brown eyes.
    • Distinguishing Marks: Small, old scar nonsurgical below his left kneecap.
    • Tattoos: Several jailhouse-type tattoos, including heart with arrow anterior left forearm; dagger split in half on posterior right forearm; heart with banner and "ROM" inside heart and heart with banner and "RO" inside heart on the posterior left forearm; star and cross with lines on posterior left hand.
    • Clothing: High top, work boots with "Billy Richards" written on side; multicolored, striped yellow, blue, pink, and green shirt; black jacket; black western belt; black pants.
    • Jewelry: One yellow metal ring, with flat top and gray stone, on left ring finger.
    • Fingerprints: Available, Damaged, Palm prints and #9 fingerprint are retained at FDLE (Lab#83 02 40391). #9 print unclassifiable per local law enforcement.
    • Dentals: No teeth.
    • DNA: No sample available to submit


    Case History
    The victim was located in Jacksonville; SR8, I-10 at Milepost 342. He was a pedestrian struck by a tractor-trailer. He was walking in the lane of traffic on I-10, 168 feet west of Deep Creek Bridge when he was struck from behind.

    Investigators

    Arlene Murnak
    904-630-0977

    OR
    District 4 Medical Examiner's Office
    M Moore
    904-630-0980
    Email


    You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

    Agency Case Number:
    1983-00331



    NCIC Number:
    U-619763800




    Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.



    Source Information:
    FLUIDDB
    Namus

    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-28-2013 at 08:28 PM.

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    Aside from the height difference, a lot of things make me think this could be Richard Lloyd Barnett.

    Richard Lloyd Barnett on...

    NamUs: https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/9608/
    Charley Project: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ard_lloyd.html
    Doe Network: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4386dmtx.html

    Points that match up:

    First, photograph and reconstruction-wise, I think there is a resemblance between the UID's sketch and Richard's photograph. The UID is described as having hair, "Short, brown and gray, frontal balding" and between 40-55 while Richard's photograph shows dark brown hair with frontal balding and was 42 when he was last heard from, likely 43 at the time the UID was found.



    Richard was last heard from on April 3, 1982 when he was arrested in Galveston County, TX, made one phone call but did not leave a message, and then was released on April 5, 1982. The UID was found almost exactly a year later on April 8, 1983 in Jacksonville, FL when he was hit by a tractor-trailer. Map of the two locations here: Galveston, Texas to Jacksonville, FL - Google Maps

    Per all sources, Richard had tattoos on his forearms and upper arm as well as scars on his legs. Per DoeNetwork and NamUs, the UID had a small, old scar nonsurgical below his left kneecap. He also had "several jailhouse-type tattoos, including heart with arrow anterior left forearm; dagger split in half on posterior right forearm; heart with banner and "ROM" inside heart and heart with banner and "RO" inside heart on the posterior left forearm; star and cross with lines on posterior left hand." Richard appears to have been in prison before (or at least arrested, as this was his last sighting) which makes the jailhouse tattoos very likely.

    In addition, I did a search on his name and found that his children have been searching for one another and him. In this guest book, one daughter writes her thanks for the site bringing her together with her brother and sister: http://books.dreambook.com/kbarnett/personal.html. The brother appears to use the email "romanbarnett@___" and per the sister's comment, "Brother was raised by dad & our step-mom & knew no names on us ,either, as dad is a missing person since 1983."

    I note the brother's email as this could be the "ROM" in the UID's tattoo. I searched further and found this Find A Grave page which says that Richard was married to Roberta Lynn Barnett: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=68725499. Could this be the "RO" in the UID's other tattoo?

    There is a discrepancy in height and weight. Richard was reported to be 6'0" to 6'2" and 200 to 240 lbs. The UID has several ranges reported with NamUs at 5'10", FLUIDDB at 5' to 6', and Doe Network at 5'8" to 5'9" - and all at 174 lbs.
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    if someone had real jailhouse tattoos you'd think his fingerprints would be on file yet they could not make a match with what they had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tifflee View Post
    Aside from the height difference, a lot of things make me think this could be Richard Lloyd Barnett.

    Richard Lloyd Barnett on...

    NamUs: https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/9608/
    Charley Project: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ard_lloyd.html
    Doe Network: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4386dmtx.html

    Points that match up:

    First, photograph and reconstruction-wise, I think there is a resemblance between the UID's sketch and Richard's photograph. The UID is described as having hair, "Short, brown and gray, frontal balding" and between 40-55 while Richard's photograph shows dark brown hair with frontal balding and was 42 when he was last heard from, likely 43 at the time the UID was found.



    Richard was last heard from on April 3, 1982 when he was arrested in Galveston County, TX, made one phone call but did not leave a message, and then was released on April 5, 1982. The UID was found almost exactly a year later on April 8, 1983 in Jacksonville, FL when he was hit by a tractor-trailer. Map of the two locations here: Galveston, Texas to Jacksonville, FL - Google Maps

    Per all sources, Richard had tattoos on his forearms and upper arm as well as scars on his legs. Per DoeNetwork and NamUs, the UID had a small, old scar nonsurgical below his left kneecap. He also had "several jailhouse-type tattoos, including heart with arrow anterior left forearm; dagger split in half on posterior right forearm; heart with banner and "ROM" inside heart and heart with banner and "RO" inside heart on the posterior left forearm; star and cross with lines on posterior left hand." Richard appears to have been in prison before (or at least arrested, as this was his last sighting) which makes the jailhouse tattoos very likely.

    In addition, I did a search on his name and found that his children have been searching for one another and him. In this guest book, one daughter writes her thanks for the site bringing her together with her brother and sister: http://books.dreambook.com/kbarnett/personal.html. The brother appears to use the email "romanbarnett@___" and per the sister's comment, "Brother was raised by dad & our step-mom & knew no names on us ,either, as dad is a missing person since 1983."

    I note the brother's email as this could be the "ROM" in the UID's tattoo. I searched further and found this Find A Grave page which says that Richard was married to Roberta Lynn Barnett: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=68725499. Could this be the "RO" in the UID's other tattoo?

    There is a discrepancy in height and weight. Richard was reported to be 6'0" to 6'2" and 200 to 240 lbs. The UID has several ranges reported with NamUs at 5'10", FLUIDDB at 5' to 6', and Doe Network at 5'8" to 5'9" - and all at 174 lbs.
    It says he was arrested then released, yet "Fingerprint information is currently not available." Don't they always fingerprint when you are arrested?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality Orlando View Post
    It says he was arrested then released, yet "Fingerprint information is currently not available." Don't they always fingerprint when you are arrested?
    if he was held for three days in Gavleston, they most certainly fingerprinted him.

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    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/385dmtx.html

    Phillip Wade Roberts Missing from Texas May 3rd 1982. He wore brown workboots and had a tattoo right fore arm of dagger/heart. Doe had tattoo of broken dagger on right arm.
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    ^ I didn't realize Doe Network/NamUs thought Phillip Wade Roberts had a dagger and heart tattoo. Charley Project has it listed as an anchor: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...s_phillip.html.

    His NamUs link: https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/8806/0/

    He's definitely a possibility to explore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality Orlando View Post
    It says he was arrested then released, yet "Fingerprint information is currently not available." Don't they always fingerprint when you are arrested?
    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    if he was held for three days in Gavleston, they most certainly fingerprinted him.
    For the UID, it says, "Available, Damaged, Palm prints and #9 fingerprint are retained at FDLE (Lab#83 02 40391). #9 print unclassifiable per local law enforcement." I was trying to figure out if this means no prints are actually available if they are damaged and the #9 print retained is "unclassifiable".

    As for Richard Barnett, not sure what happened on the city or county level iln the early 1980s, but it's possible they lost the fingerprints, have yet to send them in, or just haven't coordinated among the agency reporting to NamUs versus the agency that took the fingerprints?
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    Quote Originally Posted by tifflee View Post
    Aside from the height difference, a lot of things make me think this could be Richard Lloyd Barnett.

    Richard Lloyd Barnett on...

    NamUs: https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/9608/
    Charley Project: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ard_lloyd.html
    Doe Network: http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/4386dmtx.html

    Points that match up:

    First, photograph and reconstruction-wise, I think there is a resemblance between the UID's sketch and Richard's photograph. The UID is described as having hair, "Short, brown and gray, frontal balding" and between 40-55 while Richard's photograph shows dark brown hair with frontal balding and was 42 when he was last heard from, likely 43 at the time the UID was found.



    Richard was last heard from on April 3, 1982 when he was arrested in Galveston County, TX, made one phone call but did not leave a message, and then was released on April 5, 1982. The UID was found almost exactly a year later on April 8, 1983 in Jacksonville, FL when he was hit by a tractor-trailer. Map of the two locations here: Galveston, Texas to Jacksonville, FL - Google Maps

    Per all sources, Richard had tattoos on his forearms and upper arm as well as scars on his legs. Per DoeNetwork and NamUs, the UID had a small, old scar nonsurgical below his left kneecap. He also had "several jailhouse-type tattoos, including heart with arrow anterior left forearm; dagger split in half on posterior right forearm; heart with banner and "ROM" inside heart and heart with banner and "RO" inside heart on the posterior left forearm; star and cross with lines on posterior left hand." Richard appears to have been in prison before (or at least arrested, as this was his last sighting) which makes the jailhouse tattoos very likely.

    In addition, I did a search on his name and found that his children have been searching for one another and him. In this guest book, one daughter writes her thanks for the site bringing her together with her brother and sister: http://books.dreambook.com/kbarnett/personal.html. The brother appears to use the email "romanbarnett@___" and per the sister's comment, "Brother was raised by dad & our step-mom & knew no names on us ,either, as dad is a missing person since 1983."

    I note the brother's email as this could be the "ROM" in the UID's tattoo. I searched further and found this Find A Grave page which says that Richard was married to Roberta Lynn Barnett: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=68725499. Could this be the "RO" in the UID's other tattoo?

    There is a discrepancy in height and weight. Richard was reported to be 6'0" to 6'2" and 200 to 240 lbs. The UID has several ranges reported with NamUs at 5'10", FLUIDDB at 5' to 6', and Doe Network at 5'8" to 5'9" - and all at 174 lbs.
    BBM

    Interesting...He is listed as missing since April 5th 1982 but the sister states 1983. That would make a big difference, like he was trying to get out of dodge after being released for some reason, hitchhiked 1-10 and ended up in Jax on the 8th. That would make sense. Also,people do get their kids' names tattoo'd if wife could have been RO then son could have been ROM like you said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleuthster View Post
    BBM

    Interesting...He is listed as missing since April 5th 1982 but the sister states 1983. That would make a big difference, like he was trying to get out of dodge after being released for some reason, hitchhiked 1-10 and ended up in Jax on the 8th. That would make sense. Also,people do get their kids' names tattoo'd if wife could have been RO then son could have been ROM like you said.
    I know, isn't that interesting? I initially thought he would be an excellent match if the years just matched up rather than almost exactly a year after, but saw the guestbook posting and did a doubletake. Right now, I am going by the NamUs dates, but emailed the Galveston Sheriff's contact for Richard and copy/pasted that sentence to him.


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    Looking on intellus Roman Richard Barnett, aka Romain Richard Barnett, from San Angelo Tx and lived in Bakersfield, age 51 (current)

    I think you should see this
    http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg...&GRid=75124368

    DO you think this is the same person??? This is strange.
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    I did a Facebook search before and apparently located the son with the email address of romanbarnett@___ and he has both sisters mentioned in the guestbook post linked as his friends. I wonder if "Roman" is perhaps a nickname since on the "Find A Grave" page, he is listed as RLB II. It could be that the family used the nickname to distinguish him from Richard Lloyd Barnett I - his father who apparently went by "Rick."

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    Well I'm guessing the person in that grave isn't the same one as the one who's posting on that website, as the posts are more current than 1996.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angie4b1g View Post
    Well I'm guessing the person in that grave isn't the same one as the one who's posting on that website, as the posts are more current than 1996.
    That's what one would think. Its rather strange because Im only finding one roman barnett on intellus with texas, hes 51 and it shows bakersfield also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tifflee View Post
    I did a Facebook search before and apparently located the son with the email address of romanbarnett@___ and he has both sisters mentioned in the guestbook post linked as his friends. I wonder if "Roman" is perhaps a nickname since on the "Find A Grave" page, he is listed as RLB II. It could be that the family used the nickname to distinguish him from Richard Lloyd Barnett I - his father who apparently went by "Rick."
    Yes, I see what you are saying, his name is Richard on FB so Roman could be a nickname.
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