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    As a band director, he did little.

    White invited band members to anonymously report hazing and even had police come along on some away games, former drum major Timothy Barber told AP.

    It's customary for police to attend games. They even attend high-school games -- this is not out of the ordinary or a threat to anyone...especially the football team or band members.

    White had police escort the trumpet section off the field to be interrogated to show he would not tolerate hazing, Barber said.

    Wow - how noble of him. What did this accomplish? Nothing, obviously.

    But some sections had their own violent initiation rituals. White bought buckets of white paint and asked Barber to cover up the section nicknames on the wall.

    He covered up the nicknames of the sections that had violent rituals? Really? Are we in 2nd grade?

    About a dozen people pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor and received probation in that case, though it's not clear what actions, if any, the university took to punish them.

    Since the university would not release what punishment, if any, the dozen or so students received, IMHO, it couldn't be very much. If any student was thrown out of school for hazing in the past, I'm confident the band Director would be all over it as this point.

    I see a lot of talk in the past, but very very little action.

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    College band death casts shadow on rich tradition

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    ATLANTA (AP) — Four Florida A&M University students have been expelled for their role in what is believed to be a hazing death of a marching band member, the latest blemish for a rich and cherished institution at historically black colleges.

    Hazing is part of the price band members pay at HBCUs to be part of a vaunted campus tradition that eclipses the prestige and popularity of the football team. Band members can endure anything from punching to paddling to being forced to drink copious amounts of water, all for a chance to perform in front of thousands of people at football games, parades and other high-profile events.

    On HBCU campuses, band members are often given perks and treated like celebrities.

    "If you were in the band, it was like you were a superstar," said Fontreia James, a piccolo player for three years in the marching band at Jackson State University in Mississippi. "People don't come to the games to see the football team. People come to see the band."
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    Former state Sen. Al Lawson is a Florida A&M alumnus who was named to a university task force to look into Champion's death, one of several investigations announced in the aftermath. Lawson said hazing was difficult for the school to deal with.

    "They're students, but they really kind of take over. The staff is too small," Lawson said. "You've got to have some people to depend on to take care of 400, 500 people. As they get to senior status, they have a lot of power. These students really don't think they're doing anything wrong."
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    They see going through this struggle, that has nothing to do with music obviously, but they see it as reaffirming of their dedication to the band, their dedication to their section, and a rite of passage," Jones said. "It's all about this very intense desire at that age to belong and be accepted. And it's getting people killed and injured."


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    http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/134202338.html
    (long running list of articles from the beginning of the case)

    12/2/11

    Florida A&M University (FAMU) President James H. Ammons has postponed the work of a task force that he appointed to review anti-hazing regulations. The task force was scheduled to meet on Monday, December 5.

    “Based upon input from the Governor’s Office and in light of the recently announced November 29 investigation by the Board of Governors, I believe it will be prudent to postpone the work of the task force to allow this and other investigations to be pursued with our full cooperation and attention,” said FAMU President 
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    In addition to the investigation by the BOG, there is an ongoing investigation by the Orange County Sheriff’s Office and Florida Department of Law Enforcement.
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    12/1

    The owner of the company that transported Florida A&M University band members says the driver did not hear or see any commotion on the bus before drum major Robert Champion collapsed and died after an apparent act of hazing.

    Ray Land, president of Fabulous Coach Lines, says his company
    has transported the "Marching 100" to many games and never had
    any incidents of hazing or inappropriate conduct on the buses.

    I don't think it happened on the bus...it most likely happened as they were leaving the stadium to board the bus...I understand they think he had to run thru a "gauntlet of fists", as it's known...
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    The allegations of hazing are also sparking possible new legislation. Members of "Policy for People" say they're preparing to propose a law to stop hazing altogether in Florida.

    The law would be called the "Robert Champion Anti-Hazing Bill."

    FAMU students say the bill would be different from current hazing laws in that it would encompass psychological aspects of hazing as well as the physical aspects.

    The group plans to present the proposal next week.
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    11/23

    A group of FAMU students say the firing of Dr. Julian White is a good first step in the right direction in getting rid of hazing on campus.

    However, the students have other demands, too.

    FAMU student Lucas Melton says, "Julian White, the director of bands for Florida A&M University, should be fired."

    FAMU students say it's only right that that's what the university has done.

    Melton says the death of Marching 100 drum major Robert Champion ultimately sits on the shoulders of Dr. Julian White.

    He says, "He sits at the head of the Marching 100. So, everything that happens with that group is under his watch. He was asleep at the wheel."

    ........Melton and other members of the grassroots student organization, Policy for People, demand that administrators suspend the Marching 100 for at least two years.

    .......The students are also asking administrators to form a Truth and Reconciliation Board.

    Jamaal Rose says, "To allow people to come forward about the things that they have gone through, past and present; allow them to be honest and up-front, because if we don't allow them to be honest and up-front, we will never get rid of hazing."

    The students say they will officially present their demands to administrators on Monday.


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    FAMU officials, band held anti-hazing meeting days before Champion's death

    http://www.11alive.com/rss/article/2...hampions-death

    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Just two days before Florida A&M University student Robert Champion died after suspected hazing, two university officials met with band members in an attempt to dissuade them from the practice.

    The meeting was called by university officials after Dr. Julian White suspended 26 band members for involvement in hazing. Several of those suspensions were connected to the alleged hazing of Bria Hunter, a freshman clarinet player who was hospitalized with a fractured thigh bone.

    FAMU Police Chief Calvin Ross and Henry Kirby, Dean of Students, spoke with the 400-plus member band the day before they were to travel to Orlando for the Florida Classic, according to Dr. White.

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    Long article goes into the history of hazing at FAMU...I disagree that a lot of fans didn't know about the practice..it has been reported in the papers many times in the past and was well known to people who never went to the school or games...

    One thing the article does bring out is that the hazing of Champion did take place on the bus:


    "Champion was looking to join the “Bus C” group after the Florida Classic game when he collapsed on the band’s charter bus and died, said Christopher Chestnut, a Gainesville attorney who is representing Champion’s family. The Champions have filed a civil lawsuit against the university.

    The initiation process for crossing over into Bus C involved walking from one end of a bus to the other while enduring a flurry of punches from members of the group, mostly percussionists.

    It’s unclear why Champion, who was one of six drum majors in the Marching 100, would submit to a hazing ritual, although his mother said he was very dedicated to the band. The music major, who grew up in Atlanta and had taken time off from school while struggling to complete his degree, had dreamed of playing in the Marching 100 since childhood. He was buried last week in his drum major uniform."


    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/0...#ixzz1fdRnCBzC


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    FAMU Puts Band Director's Dismissal On Hold

    http://www.wtae.com/education/29945613/detail.html

    In Wednesday's announcement, which came as a result of a Florida Department of Law Enforcement recommendation, FAMU said that it had placed White on administrative leave with pay on Monday, "until the completion of the investigation and rescinded the dismissal of four students who received disciplinary action as a result of activity surrounding the Robert Champion incident."

    "Consistent with the commitment of the FAMU Board of Trustees and President Ammons to be fully cooperative, we are awaiting the outcome of the investigation before any personnel or disciplinary actions are taken," said FAMU spokeswoman Sharon P. Saunders in a statement. "We are honoring the recommendations of not only FDLE, but the Orange County Sheriff's Office and the Board of Governors as we await the completion of their investigations."

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    Bizarre. Three men in the band gathered together to beat down this female band member, who is now leaving the university.

    Defies belief. Since when do young men band together to pound a fellow female student at a university in the US?

    Loser men do beat their own women in a relationship, but I have never ever heard of a group of college men gathering together to beat some woman they don't have a relationship with, who is a fellow student.

    Disband this band, already. It's Lord of the Flies time there. What a bizarre culture of bottom dwellers.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2


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    Quote Originally Posted by JeannaT View Post
    Bizarre. Three men in the band gathered together to beat down this female band member, who is now leaving the university.

    Defies belief. Since when do young men band together to pound a fellow female student at a university in the US?

    Loser men do beat their own women in a relationship, but I have never ever heard of a group of college men gathering together to beat some woman they don't have a relationship with, who is a fellow student.

    Disband this band, already. It's Lord of the Flies time there. What a bizarre culture of bottom dwellers.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/13/justic...html?hpt=hp_t2
    What mystifies me also is that the people willingly take this treatment just to belong to some club!


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    UPDATE: Three FAMU students arrested for hazing

    http://www.wtxl.com/content/topstori...-vbKXlXxQ.cspx


    .......Thursday night, Tallahassee police arrested Sean Hobson, 23, Aaron Golson, 19, and James Harris, 22.

    The three men each face one count of hazing; Golson and Hobson each face an additional count of Felony Battery.

    According to a probable cause report, the three men are accused of hazing a fellow student, Bria Hunter.


    This is good but I'll be glad when they start the arrests for Champion's case.


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    I will never understand how anyone can take pleasure/satisfaction from harming causing pain, sadness to someone else. What's worse, this seemed pretty pervasive at FAMU and for what appears to be a long time. What is wrong with people? How can anyone purposely submit another human being to this type of treatment?
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    TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Florida authorities investigating the death of a Florida A&M University drum major say they have uncovered possible employee fraud and misconduct at the school.

    The Florida Department of Law Enforcement sent letters Tuesday to the head of the FAMU board and the head of the state university system, telling them investigators had uncovered potential violations of law as part of the probe into what is believed to be the hazing death of a Marching 100 band member. Robert Champion died Nov. 19 after a marching band performance at a football game.

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/12/1...#ixzz1gX58HR5N


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    http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/1632...-band-activity

    not sure if this is related or not

    The DeKalb County School System announced Wednesday it is suspending all marching band activities while an investigation of possible inappropriate activities among high school band members, alumni advisors, band directors and others surrounding DeKalb Schools high school marching bands is conducted.
    iirc the group that was doing a lot of hazing at famu was the red dogs (GA)... so not sure if this is related but found it interesting nonetheless


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    Robert Champion, the FAMU drum major who died last month due to suspected hazing, was an alumni of Southwest DeKalb High School. Another Southwest DeKalb alum is suing over alleged hazing in FAMU's Marching 100 band. One of three FAMU band members arrested for hazing this week also went to the same high school.
    http://www.11alive.com/news/article/...and-activities

    oh.....


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    System spokesman Walter Woods said officials started asking questions at Southwest DeKalb High School because of connections to alleged hazing incidents at FAMU. Robert Champion, the FAMU band member who died, and another member, Bria Shante Hunter, who was injured, graduated from Southwest DeKalb. Two of three FAMU band members charged with injuring Hunter also hailed from the high school.

    The system investigation unearthed some troubling finds, Woods said. He was not willing to disclose their nature yet.
    http://www.ajc.com/news/marching-ban...n-1260144.html


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    From what I've read, hazing with the band at FAMU has been going on for years. But it seems there is a connection with the HS band members have attended as well? WTH??!!


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