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    OR - Yamhill Co., WhtMale UP5205, 30-70, in Willamette River, Feb'06

    Body was found in the Willamette River in February, 2006. The body was clothed only in green/ brown "Marino Bay Natural" a fleece vest.

    HAIR: Salt and pepper dark brown and gray, up to 2.5 inches in length

    DNA on file - No photos available

    Rule outs

    Stephan Adams 1978 Oklahoma
    Michael Allan 1954 Florida
    James Bradford 1942 Arizona
    Emerson Carbaugh 1921 Pennsylvania
    Russell Gonzales 1964 Oregon
    Albert Mitchell 1939 Kentucky
    Amos Mortier 1977 Wisconsin
    Kevin Nordquist 1967 Oregon
    Kinsey Otto 1976 Nevada
    Bradley Ross 1956 Kentucky

    Roy Anderson


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    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-15-2013 at 02:26 AM. Reason: added Roy Anderson

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    Roy Anderson: https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/12054/23/

    Height is spot on, weight is close. Anderson has salt & pepper hair like the UID. I'm not sure of the county geography of Oregon, however. Roy was missing from Multomah county - UID found in Yamhill county.

    There is DNA available for both UID and Roy. Roy is not listed as a rule out.

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    Last edited by KateB; 04-28-2015 at 10:52 AM. Reason: repair url tag.

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    It does appear that the Willamette goes from Yamhill to Multnomah County. The only problem is that this river runs north and not south. But that's not to say that he was taking a trip to Yamhill that fateful day.

    I'm surprised he's not a rule out. Are you going to contact them, Sleuth?


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    I've never contacted LE before. I think this is a possible match though.

    As the name implies, i'm new to this . I am willing to write an email to the case managers. What should I say and how do I say it?

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    Since you're new, I'll give you more information than you ever wanted to know.

    First, it is against Websleuths policy to call on cases and say you are a member at Websleuths. That being said, in the UID forum, things are a tad different.

    You can email the case manager and say you found the two cases on the internet. IF they ask where, you are more than welcome to say Websleuths, but I would add through NamUS because they need to know what is working for them as far as getting information out to the public.

    Here's the case manager, according to NamUS. I would use email. I did call on one once, but that was only because it was local and I'm familiar with my local LE.

    First Name Mike
    Last Name Weinstein
    Email mike.weinstein@portlandoregon.gov

    ETA: I contact the missing case manager over the UID case manager, BTW.

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    Ok here's what I would email to the case manager. Does this look acceptable/professional?

    Detective Weinstein,

    I am emailing you in regards to Roy Anderson, a missing person with whom you are the case manager.

    I have found his case on the internet, and I have also found an Unidentified case that seems to match Roy's description. The UID ME/C case number is 06-0004.

    The UID was found in Oregon about 150 miles Northeast in Yamhill County. The UID has salt & pepper hair, with a height of 5' 10" and estimated weight of 180 pounds. Roy's height is also listed at 5' 10". There is DNA available from this UID. Roy is not listed as a rule out for this UID.

    I believe this UID may be a possible match to Roy. I think this is worth looking into.

    Sincerely

    [I would insert my real name here]

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    What do you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleuthnewbie View Post
    Roy Anderson: https://www.findthemissing.org/cases/12054/23/

    Height is spot on, weight is close. Anderson has salt & pepper hair like the UID. I'm not sure of the county geography of Oregon, however. Roy was missing from Multomah county - UID found in Yamhill county.

    There is DNA available for both UID and Roy. Roy is not listed as a rule out.
    I don't think this is a match. they have both nuclear and mitochondrial DNA for the UID and an unspecified DNA sample from Anderson. whether they have one or the other or both for Anderson, if it is a match it probably would have been picked up UNLESS Anderson's is not in any national database.

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    I don't think this is a match. they have both nuclear and mitochondrial DNA for the UID and an unspecified DNA sample from Anderson. whether they have one or the other or both for Anderson, if it is a match it probably would have been picked up UNLESS Anderson's is not in any national database.
    I think it's worth looking into because there is at least 10 rule outs for the UID already, but Roy isn't one of them. Both have DNA available so it is worth a shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleuthnewbie View Post
    Ok here's what I would email to the case manager. Does this look acceptable/professional?

    Detective Weinstein,

    I am emailing you in regards to Roy Anderson, a missing person with whom you are the case manager.

    I have found his case on the internet, and I have also found an Unidentified case that seems to match Roy's description. The UID ME/C case number is 06-0004.

    The UID was found in Oregon about 150 miles Northeast in Yamhill County. The UID has salt & pepper hair, with a height of 5' 10" and estimated weight of 180 pounds. Roy's height is also listed at 5' 10". There is DNA available from this UID. Roy is not listed as a rule out for this UID.

    I believe this UID may be a possible match to Roy. I think this is worth looking into.

    Sincerely

    [I would insert my real name here]

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    What do you think?
    Very nice! I might have to plagiarize you when I do my next submit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by webrocket View Post
    I don't think this is a match. they have both nuclear and mitochondrial DNA for the UID and an unspecified DNA sample from Anderson. whether they have one or the other or both for Anderson, if it is a match it probably would have been picked up UNLESS Anderson's is not in any national database.
    I'm learning how this works too, so here's my question. If both are listed on NamUS, does that mean both of their DNA is automatically matched one against the other? Since NamUS is national?

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    Ok thanks for the help! I just sent the email to him. I will let you know when/if I hear anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
    I'm learning how this works too, so here's my question. If both are listed on NamUS, does that mean both of their DNA is automatically matched one against the other? Since NamUS is national?
    if they are both in CODIS then they are automatically cross checked. they usually don't list those as rule outs.

    a person's DNA might not be in CODIS and might be stored in some local DNA registry so there is no way to know unless someone asks. I tend to assume if DNA is on file it is with CODIS but that is not always the case.

    I can't explain CODIS very well but you can google it. CODIS is a very large DNA database which is used for criminal investigations, identifying remains, etc.

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    Thanks Webrocket! I think there's an explanation about CODIS up in the UID information subforum that I created a couple of days ago. If not, I'll be sure to Google it.

    I'm still wading through a lot of the old threads trying to familiarize myself with the UIDs and updating when I can. There is a LOT to know here. Your help is dearly appreciated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
    I'm learning how this works too, so here's my question. If both are listed on NamUS, does that mean both of their DNA is automatically matched one against the other? Since NamUS is national?
    No. If they are both listed in CODIS, their DNA is automatically matched one against the other.

    CODIS is the FBI's DNA matching system, primarily for matching biological evidence from crime scenes to the perpetrators of the crimes, but also for matching MP's (and their family members) to UID's

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