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    Parents required to prove their baby isn't Lisa multiple times

    I searched for a sightings thread and only found one and it had been closed.

    Wasn't sure where to put this, so if you know of a thread please alert on my post and ask a mod to merge? TIA!

    http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/09...is-caught.html

    Posted on Fri, Dec. 09, 2011 11:09 PM

    Family of similar child is caught in baby Lisa nightmare

    Since Northland girl vanished, police and strangers have demanded Overland Park parents prove identity of their child.


    Then three older women surrounded her.

    “How old is your baby?” they asked. One of them pulled down Lucy’s blanket and lifted the baby’s dress to inspect her legs.

    O-M-G, people are actually getting close enough to this child to do that? No, no, no! Call it in!

    This Mom presented her child's insurance card, vaccination records...etc. To LE and proved that it was her child. She wasn't upset she was glad that people were looking for Lisa.

    But...

    But then it happened again. And again. Five times in all, Amy and her husband, David, have had to prove to law enforcement officers that they are indeed Lucy’s parents.

    She had another woman follow her from department to department in a Walmart.

    She didn't get the cops called on her that time because her baby looks like Lisa but...


    . But within a few days, she was again explaining herself to officers, who stopped her as she left a grocery store.

    They took her baby from her while other shoppers stared at her. The officers searched her grocery bag and looked at her receipt.
    They encourage people with tips to call the Tips Hotline at 816-474-8477 (TIPS) so the information will be routed directly to them.
    Amy said she wants people who think they have spotted Lisa to call police, but not try to touch the baby or insult the parents.
    Okay, I am so glad that people in Kansas (and other states) are looking for Lisa. It makes me feel very good to know that. That she hasn't been forgotten.

    But c'mon, who in the right mind thinks it's okay to walk up and touch an unknown baby just to satisfy your curiosity that this is not Lisa?

    I don't blame this Mom for being scared. Back when we had sightings of another child in 2008 (that child was later found deceased and her mother aquitted of murdering her) we actually had some posts here where it was said if the person saw a child that looked like that missing (now deceased child) they would snatch the child and run. And then go to the police.

    I kid you not.

    So please please just call. Don't touch, don't follow, don't engage the person with the baby that is thought to be Lisa in convo---just call it in (posted for people who read here but aren't members).

    Wow. I pray that Lisa is found, but I also pray this family gets a break.

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    That would be so scary... I would probably start wearing a placard with an enlarging of her birth certificate on it.

    I don't understand why the police are coming to their home repeatedly...Don't they have an e-mail list or something where they can circulate a memo saying that if someone calls in baby Lucy it's a false lead, these parents have already been checked out tons of times??

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    Don`t they log the calls? Wouldn`t they see that the same family waa called on several times and it turned out to be a false sighting?

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    The poor mom! She's probably afraid to even go out in public with her baby. Can you imagine what a nightmare it would be if they actually believed this was Baby Lisa, and took her away, even for a day?

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    How is this not harassment? Do these parents have any legal recourse?
    I started out with nothing, and I still have most of it left.


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    Yeah, I'm confused why the police have had to do this more than once?
    “Justice cannot be for one side alone, but must be for both.” - Eleanor Roosevelt


    In no way should any of my statements be construed as legal opinion or advice. While I am a lawyer, I am not a verified poster here at WS. The above statement(s) are an expression of my personal opinion, for entertainment purposes only, and copyright.

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    This goes back to the question as to if LE believes BL is alive or not.

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    Oh, my.
    This poor family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cityslick View Post
    This goes back to the question as to if LE believes BL is alive or not.
    I don't see it having to do with what LE may or may not believe.

    I think it shows they're being thorough in their investigation and following all leads, leaving no stone unturned, just like many have been saying about LE since Lisa went missing.

    The fact that total strangers are going up to this woman and close to her baby is frightening and way out of line!

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    I'm pleased people are keeping an eye out for BL, but they should be respectful. Everyone has a cell, just use it, call police, and never, never touch the baby. This poor mother and father.


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    I fully support people calling in tips, but this poor little girl...and her family.

    To have strangers always staring at her or touching her, to have a strange person actually take her from her mother's arms or having another pulling up her dress, that crosses so many lines.

    I really feel for this family. I think if it were me, to protect myself, and my kids from any further issues like this, I would seriously consider moving. If that weren't possible, I would speak to an attorney about a way to mediate this with the police department, so that they can have a way to check, without disrupting anyone's life, and see if this woman had gone out with her daughter that day.

    Yes, Lisa needs to be found, but this family has had about enough, and the search for Lisa shouldn't be having a negative impact on another little girl's life.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    People may be calling different LEA's and they are responding...depending on where this baby has been seen with her parents...
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    I searched for a sightings thread and only found one and it had been closed.

    Wasn't sure where to put this, so if you know of a thread please alert on my post and ask a mod to merge? TIA!

    http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/09...is-caught.html

    Posted on Fri, Dec. 09, 2011 11:09 PM

    Family of similar child is caught in baby Lisa nightmare

    Since Northland girl vanished, police and strangers have demanded Overland Park parents prove identity of their child.





    O-M-G, people are actually getting close enough to this child to do that? No, no, no! Call it in!

    This Mom presented her child's insurance card, vaccination records...etc. To LE and proved that it was her child. She wasn't upset she was glad that people were looking for Lisa.

    But...




    She had another woman follow her from department to department in a Walmart.

    She didn't get the cops called on her that time because her baby looks like Lisa but...


    . But within a few days, she was again explaining herself to officers, who stopped her as she left a grocery store.







    Okay, I am so glad that people in Kansas (and other states) are looking for Lisa. It makes me feel very good to know that. That she hasn't been forgotten.

    But c'mon, who in the right mind thinks it's okay to walk up and touch an unknown baby just to satisfy your curiosity that this is not Lisa?

    I don't blame this Mom for being scared. Back when we had sightings of another child in 2008 (that child was later found deceased and her mother aquitted of murdering her) we actually had some posts here where it was said if the person saw a child that looked like that missing (now deceased child) they would snatch the child and run. And then go to the police.

    I kid you not.

    So please please just call. Don't touch, don't follow, don't engage the person with the baby that is thought to be Lisa in convo---just call it in (posted for people who read here but aren't members).

    Wow. I pray that Lisa is found, but I also pray this family gets a break.
    I tell you one thing...if those women touched my baby...either they would be going to jail...or I would. No one has the right to lift up a baby's dress...NO ONE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cityslick View Post
    This goes back to the question as to if LE believes BL is alive or not.
    Unfortunately, I don't think it's necessarily an indicator of what LE believes. Even if they strongly believe Lisa to be deceased and even if they have some evidence toward that end, since her little body hasn't been found, I think they're duty-bound to investigate potential sightings. I think they will continue following up leads until Lisa is found or they compile enough evidence without remains to arrest and convict someone.

    "We have only this moment, sparkling like a star in our hand...and melting like a snowflake." - Marie Beynon Ray



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat View Post
    I searched for a sightings thread and only found one and it had been closed.

    Wasn't sure where to put this, so if you know of a thread please alert on my post and ask a mod to merge? TIA!

    http://www.kansascity.com/2011/12/09...is-caught.html

    Posted on Fri, Dec. 09, 2011 11:09 PM

    Family of similar child is caught in baby Lisa nightmare

    Since Northland girl vanished, police and strangers have demanded Overland Park parents prove identity of their child.





    O-M-G, people are actually getting close enough to this child to do that? No, no, no! Call it in!

    This Mom presented her child's insurance card, vaccination records...etc. To LE and proved that it was her child. She wasn't upset she was glad that people were looking for Lisa.

    But...




    She had another woman follow her from department to department in a Walmart.

    She didn't get the cops called on her that time because her baby looks like Lisa but...


    . But within a few days, she was again explaining herself to officers, who stopped her as she left a grocery store.







    Okay, I am so glad that people in Kansas (and other states) are looking for Lisa. It makes me feel very good to know that. That she hasn't been forgotten.

    But c'mon, who in the right mind thinks it's okay to walk up and touch an unknown baby just to satisfy your curiosity that this is not Lisa?

    I don't blame this Mom for being scared. Back when we had sightings of another child in 2008 (that child was later found deceased and her mother aquitted of murdering her) we actually had some posts here where it was said if the person saw a child that looked like that missing (now deceased child) they would snatch the child and run. And then go to the police.

    I kid you not.

    So please please just call. Don't touch, don't follow, don't engage the person with the baby that is thought to be Lisa in convo---just call it in (posted for people who read here but aren't members).

    Wow. I pray that Lisa is found, but I also pray this family gets a break.
    And the strange thing is, that baby girl does not look that much like Lisa! Similar, maybe, but not enough to hound this mom like they have done.

    I have seen a commercial a couple times recently, can't remember what they're advertising, but there is a baby that looks remarkably like Lisa.

    Yes, I agree with you that people should not do the crazy things that were described in that article but it's surprising how many crazy people there are in this world. I see cute babies and kids every time I go to Wal Mart, but I would NEVER touch one of them without the parent's permission. I don't even approach them, because I don't want to scare the child. Can you imagine this mom's horror that some stranger was lifting up the child's dress?? I think I would seriously knock someone on their butt for that!!

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