12-12-2011, 07:51 PM #1Registered User
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CA - San Dimas, Wht/HispMale 871UMCA, 4-8, buried in San Gabriel Mtns, Oct'79
I could not find a thread in this forum for this little boy but came across a new article from October with some slightly extra info than on his Doe Network page. Thought I would start a thread to see if any of you guys can find any connections
Unidentified White or Hispanic Male
The victim was discovered on October 2, 1979 in San Dimas, Los Angeles County, California
Estimated Date of Death: 2 weeks prior to discovery
Estimated age: 4-6 years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 3'8" (112 cm); 40 lbs (18 kg).
Dentals: Available. No restorations.
The victim was located near Glendora Mountain Road in San Dimas, California on October 2, 1979.
And a recent article on the case - http://www.sgvtribune.com/news/ci_19019398
The boy in the forest
32 years later, identity of boy's body found along Glendora Mountain Road still a mystery
By Ruby Gonzales, Staff Writer
Posted: 10/01/2011 07:10:55 AM PDT
ANGELES NATIONAL FOREST - On a Tuesday afternoon 32 years ago, a motorcyclist stopped on the side of Glendora Mountain Road for a quick break and made a grisly discovery.
In a grave 18 inches deep lay the remains of a little boy.
Craig Harvey, spokesman for the Los Angeles County Department of the Coroner, said the body was decomposed but still had some skin. Animals had been digging up the grave as well.
The coroner estimated the boy, tagged John Doe #347, died approximately two weeks before his body was discovered.
Harvey said because of the decomposition and missing tissue, the cause of death was undetermined.
However, detectives suspect the boy may have met foul play.
"It would appear it was criminal. Circumstances suggest homicide," said Sheriff's Sgt. Paul Mondry , who works in the department's Cold Case unit.
Mondry declined to discuss details of why he suspects homicide.
For the past three decades, investigators have tried to identify the remains.
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02-26-2012, 10:02 PM #2
NamUs estimates this child to be between 4 and 8 years old. This is his NamUs page --
Although NamUs lists him as possibly Latino (and the missing person is not), this little boy, Charles Christopher Francis, stands out to me because he went missing not very far from where the unidentified little boy was found.
NamUs does not list any rule outs.
04-12-2012, 09:05 PM #3
According to Yahoo Maps and directions, it is about 44 miles from where the unidentified child was found near Glendora Mountain Rd in San Dimas to the corner of E Chestnut Ave and S Lyon St in Santa Ana where Charles Christopher Francis was last seen by his father. I wonder if LE at the time checked into the possibility that Charles Francis could be the unidentified boy?
04-19-2012, 07:08 PM #4
I e-mailed the LA County Coroner inquiring if the unidentified little boy from San Dimas had ever been compared with Charles Christopher Francis the day before yesterday. So far, I haven't heard back from them.
04-20-2012, 02:12 PM #5
I have always been interested in this unidentified little boy too.Please let us know what you find out ok?ALL EVIL NEEDS TO SUCCEED IS FOR GOOD PEOPLE TO DO NOTHING!!!!
03-17-2013, 04:13 PM #6
I never heard back about a possible match between Charles Christopher Francis and the little boy in Glendora, but after rereading the article that Ctaylor provided a link for, it sounds like LE looked into the UID being Charles Francis and Cary Daniel Sayegh https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6632/20, unless I am reading too much into --
...other law enforcement agencies from Santa Ana and Las Vegas made inquiries in 2008 and 2009 to see if the case might match cold cases in their jurisdictions, according to Mondry.
But so far, the boy remains unidentified.
03-17-2013, 08:12 PM #7
The more I look at the clay reconstruction, the more I think that this little guy looks like Cary Daniel Sayegh, than Charles Christopher Francis, but if LE has looked at both of them (as the article says), I guess the unidentified little boy is probably not him. That said, where he was found off of Glendora Mountain Road is probably only a couple hours of a drive from Las Vegas and would probably be easily accessible for a person taking I-15 to the 210 route to go from Las Vegas to southern California. I don't know if the 210 was open in 1979, though; you might have had to take I-15 to the I-10 back then?
More information about Cary --
03-17-2013, 08:18 PM #8
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05-29-2014, 08:40 PM #9
The National Centers for Missing and Exploited Children website has a composite sketch for this young boy that I haven't seen before (neither the new sketch or the clay reconstruction are shown on his NamUs page) --
Although the NCMEC says that the boy is Hispanic and newspaper articles imply that he's been looked at (NamUs still doesn't list any exclusions), I think that the sketch looks a lot like Cary Sayegh. There is also a possibility that the unidentified child was never reported missing.
02-11-2015, 02:04 PM #10
02-11-2015, 02:05 PM #11
sadly, this child was probably never reported because he prob succumbed to child abuse from his parent(s)
10-27-2015, 07:39 AM #12Registered User
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I really do think The Cary Sayegh connection should be looked at, although we do need to see if his DNA submission is complete. Plus, I think this kid should have a NamUs profile.
10-27-2015, 11:53 PM #13
Looks like the case hasn't gotten much attention in the digital age. Does the county have funding to exhume this UID?
12-24-2015, 01:33 AM #14
bumpingWho was Walker County Jane Doe?
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