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    CA - San Dimas, Wht/HispMale 871UMCA, 4-8, buried in San Gabriel Mtns, Oct'79

    I could not find a thread in this forum for this little boy but came across a new article from October with some slightly extra info than on his Doe Network page. Thought I would start a thread to see if any of you guys can find any connections

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/871umca.html


    Unidentified White or Hispanic Male

    The victim was discovered on October 2, 1979 in San Dimas, Los Angeles County, California
    Estimated Date of Death: 2 weeks prior to discovery

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 4-6 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 3'8" (112 cm); 40 lbs (18 kg).
    Dentals: Available. No restorations.

    Case History
    The victim was located near Glendora Mountain Road in San Dimas, California on October 2, 1979.

    And a recent article on the case - http://www.sgvtribune.com/news/ci_19019398

    The boy in the forest

    32 years later, identity of boy's body found along Glendora Mountain Road still a mystery

    By Ruby Gonzales, Staff Writer
    Posted: 10/01/2011 07:10:55 AM PDT

    ANGELES NATIONAL FOREST - On a Tuesday afternoon 32 years ago, a motorcyclist stopped on the side of Glendora Mountain Road for a quick break and made a grisly discovery.

    In a grave 18 inches deep lay the remains of a little boy.

    Craig Harvey, spokesman for the Los Angeles County Department of the Coroner, said the body was decomposed but still had some skin. Animals had been digging up the grave as well.

    The coroner estimated the boy, tagged John Doe #347, died approximately two weeks before his body was discovered.

    Harvey said because of the decomposition and missing tissue, the cause of death was undetermined.

    However, detectives suspect the boy may have met foul play.

    "It would appear it was criminal. Circumstances suggest homicide," said Sheriff's Sgt. Paul Mondry , who works in the department's Cold Case unit.

    Mondry declined to discuss details of why he suspects homicide.

    For the past three decades, investigators have tried to identify the remains.

    ....
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-17-2013 at 07:31 PM.

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    NamUs estimates this child to be between 4 and 8 years old. This is his NamUs page --

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/4397

    Although NamUs lists him as possibly Latino (and the missing person is not), this little boy, Charles Christopher Francis, stands out to me because he went missing not very far from where the unidentified little boy was found.



    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/4370
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...s_charles.html

    NamUs does not list any rule outs.

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    According to Yahoo Maps and directions, it is about 44 miles from where the unidentified child was found near Glendora Mountain Rd in San Dimas to the corner of E Chestnut Ave and S Lyon St in Santa Ana where Charles Christopher Francis was last seen by his father. I wonder if LE at the time checked into the possibility that Charles Francis could be the unidentified boy?

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    I e-mailed the LA County Coroner inquiring if the unidentified little boy from San Dimas had ever been compared with Charles Christopher Francis the day before yesterday. So far, I haven't heard back from them.

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    I have always been interested in this unidentified little boy too.Please let us know what you find out ok?
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    I never heard back about a possible match between Charles Christopher Francis and the little boy in Glendora, but after rereading the article that Ctaylor provided a link for, it sounds like LE looked into the UID being Charles Francis and Cary Daniel Sayegh https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6632/20, unless I am reading too much into --

    ...other law enforcement agencies from Santa Ana and Las Vegas made inquiries in 2008 and 2009 to see if the case might match cold cases in their jurisdictions, according to Mondry.

    But so far, the boy remains unidentified.
    NamUs still doesn't list any rule outs, so I wonder if it is a case of not having anything to compare the UID with the two missing boys or if Charles Francis and Cary Sayegh have been ruled out but that information was not entered into NamUs for some reason or another?

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    The more I look at the clay reconstruction, the more I think that this little guy looks like Cary Daniel Sayegh, than Charles Christopher Francis, but if LE has looked at both of them (as the article says), I guess the unidentified little boy is probably not him. That said, where he was found off of Glendora Mountain Road is probably only a couple hours of a drive from Las Vegas and would probably be easily accessible for a person taking I-15 to the 210 route to go from Las Vegas to southern California. I don't know if the 210 was open in 1979, though; you might have had to take I-15 to the I-10 back then?

    More information about Cary --
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/93dmnv.html
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sayegh_cary.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ambercat View Post
    The more I look at the clay reconstruction, the more I think that this little guy looks like Cary Daniel Sayegh, than Charles Christopher Francis, but if LE has looked at both of them (as the article says), I guess the unidentified little boy is probably not him. That said, where he was found off of Glendora Mountain Road is probably only a couple hours of a drive from Las Vegas and would probably be easily accessible for a person taking I-15 to the 210 route to go from Las Vegas to southern California. I don't know if the 210 was open in 1979, though; you might have had to take I-15 to the I-10 back then?

    More information about Cary --
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/93dmnv.html
    http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/sayegh_cary.html
    The portion of the 210 Freeway that runs from the 57 Freeway in Glendora to the I-15 in Fontana was open in 2003. Before that, to get from Las Vegas to Glendora (via Freeways) you had to take the I-15 to the I-10 west to get to the 57 North toward Glendora.
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    The National Centers for Missing and Exploited Children website has a composite sketch for this young boy that I haven't seen before (neither the new sketch or the clay reconstruction are shown on his NamUs page) --

    http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1110800/1#poster

    Although the NCMEC says that the boy is Hispanic and newspaper articles imply that he's been looked at (NamUs still doesn't list any exclusions), I think that the sketch looks a lot like Cary Sayegh. There is also a possibility that the unidentified child was never reported missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    The portion of the 210 Freeway that runs from the 57 Freeway in Glendora to the I-15 in Fontana was open in 2003. Before that, to get from Las Vegas to Glendora (via Freeways) you had to take the I-15 to the I-10 west to get to the 57 North toward Glendora.
    also, the case history seems to indicate this boy's body (cary) would be sealed in a drum.


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    sadly, this child was probably never reported because he prob succumbed to child abuse from his parent(s)

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    I really do think The Cary Sayegh connection should be looked at, although we do need to see if his DNA submission is complete. Plus, I think this kid should have a NamUs profile.

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    Looks like the case hasn't gotten much attention in the digital age. Does the county have funding to exhume this UID?

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    bumping
    Who was Walker County Jane Doe?




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