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    We can only hope that he disposed of her body BEFORE dumping the phone ... Then the gps tracking would take us/them to her.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasCharm View Post
    We can only hope that he disposed of her body BEFORE dumping the phone ... Then the gps tracking would take us/them to her.
    I am wondering if an accomplice was driving the Hummer and possibly Dale was driving his truck with the cell phone in it.
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    I just had a thought...I wonder if Michelle attempted to call 911. Maybe Jr took the phone from her? I saw on the dispatch log a couple of 911 hang-ups. Do you think they investigate those calls?

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    Found this article:

    “We feel confident that the five places we know about have been searched thoroughly,” he said. “But we’ll keep that up in a continued effort to find her.”
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    It's been stated that le has footage of Michelle leaving. It's also been stated that they have footage of Dale leaving as well. If they left together (in the same vehicle), that would have come out by now...or wouldn't it? I'm just trying to figure out how Dale could have gotten rid of her on the way to his dad's house. Is it even possible without an accomplice? If he rode with Michelle, then somebody had to drive his vehicle, right? Can the driver be seen in Michelle's Hummer leaving Dale's townhome?

    Also, if Michelle went to Walden Circle to do a quick job, then her tanning stuff would be out of order in the truck. She's have gotten out of her vehicle with her bag that contains her equipment, so was it left intact?

    I really wish we had more info on her purse, too. was it on the front seat or not? Was her wallet left in her purse? Doors unlocked or locked? If locked, do the doors automatically lock after a certain amount of time? Why was that area chosen to park her Hummer? Did she frequent that area like it was reported early on? Or could whomever said they saw that vehicle in the area on numerous occasions have really seen her Hummer but only when dropping the kids off with Dale if he was at his dad's house? Does she have acquaintances that live near Walden Circle?

    One thing I find interesting is the fact that the vehicle was parked under a tree. Trees provide shade. Either the perp parked the Hummer there to blend in a little or Michelle parked there for the shade so it wouldn't be hot when she got back in her truck.

    Time to search who lives at the Walden Palms.

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    "During a year-in-review presentation on Orlando's crime statistics, Moreschi said he's confident the three places they've looked for clues have been searched thoroughly.....Rooney said he stands behind his decision to declare Dale Smith Jr. a suspect early in the investigation."

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    Quote Originally Posted by wenwe4 View Post
    "Rooney said he stands behind his decision to declare Dale Smith Jr. a suspect early in the investigation."

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    Me too. It will keep him grounded and leary of trying something stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey*Girl View Post
    It's been stated that le has footage of Michelle leaving. It's also been stated that they have footage of Dale leaving as well. If they left together (in the same vehicle), that would have come out by now...or wouldn't it? I'm just trying to figure out how Dale could have gotten rid of her on the way to his dad's house. Is it even possible without an accomplice? If he rode with Michelle, then somebody had to drive his vehicle, right? Can the driver be seen in Michelle's Hummer leaving Dale's townhome?

    Also, if Michelle went to Walden Circle to do a quick job, then her tanning stuff would be out of order in the truck. She's have gotten out of her vehicle with her bag that contains her equipment, so was it left intact?

    I really wish we had more info on her purse, too. was it on the front seat or not? Was her wallet left in her purse? Doors unlocked or locked? If locked, do the doors automatically lock after a certain amount of time? Why was that area chosen to park her Hummer? Did she frequent that area like it was reported early on? Or could whomever said they saw that vehicle in the area on numerous occasions have really seen her Hummer but only when dropping the kids off with Dale if he was at his dad's house? Does she have acquaintances that live near Walden Circle?

    One thing I find interesting is the fact that the vehicle was parked under a tree. Trees provide shade. Either the perp parked the Hummer there to blend in a little or Michelle parked there for the shade so it wouldn't be hot when she got back in her truck.

    Time to search who lives at the Walden Palms.
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    Is this true? I have not heard that they had footage of her leaving yet. Last I heard they speculated that she left going in the other direction, thus no footage. Does anyone have links to this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey*Girl View Post
    It's been stated that le has footage of Michelle leaving. It's also been stated that they have footage of Dale leaving as well. If they left together (in the same vehicle), that would have come out by now...or wouldn't it? I'm just trying to figure out how Dale could have gotten rid of her on the way to his dad's house. Is it even possible without an accomplice? If he rode with Michelle, then somebody had to drive his vehicle, right? Can the driver be seen in Michelle's Hummer leaving Dale's townhome?

    Also, if Michelle went to Walden Circle to do a quick job, then her tanning stuff would be out of order in the truck. She's have gotten out of her vehicle with her bag that contains her equipment, so was it left intact?

    I really wish we had more info on her purse, too. was it on the front seat or not? Was her wallet left in her purse? Doors unlocked or locked? If locked, do the doors automatically lock after a certain amount of time? Why was that area chosen to park her Hummer? Did she frequent that area like it was reported early on? Or could whomever said they saw that vehicle in the area on numerous occasions have really seen her Hummer but only when dropping the kids off with Dale if he was at his dad's house? Does she have acquaintances that live near Walden Circle?

    One thing I find interesting is the fact that the vehicle was parked under a tree. Trees provide shade. Either the perp parked the Hummer there to blend in a little or Michelle parked there for the shade so it wouldn't be hot when she got back in her truck.

    Time to search who lives at the Walden Palms.
    what is at Walden Palms or Walden Circle again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey*Girl View Post
    Time to search who lives at the Walden Palms.
    My speculation is the accomplice may not live at Walden Palms but I don't think he stays far from there. There is another set of apartments directly behind the Palms... The Waldengreen Apartments that should be looked into also. All IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jersey*Girl View Post
    It was found under the Nela in the weedline.
    Jersey Girl or anyone else, is there confirmation from a reliable source that the Nela bridge was indeed the place? The last I heard, Bob Kealing identified the correct bridge as Nela. I don't know the guy, and have no idea if I can use his word to verify that it is indeed the correct location. I myself haven't heard anything specifically naming the exact location from LE.

    Jersey, thanks for your questions in a subsequent post--some great ideas there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wenwe4 View Post
    what is at Walden Palms or Walden Circle again?
    Where the Hummer was found.

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    ok so I noticed a "suspicious incident @ that address @ 14:36 on 12/13 on this site

    http://www.cityoforlando.net/police/...ls/index.shtml

    not saying this is related . . . . . just that there might be hope.
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    I must not be paranoid enough...I don't have an I-Phone but if I did, I wouldn't care if my movements were tracked...I guess I must also have a boring life! I don't go anywhere LE or the government can't know about...
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Posted: 4:36 p.m. Tuesday, Dec. 13, 2011
    Volunteers, police regroup in search for missing mom Michelle Parker

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    Regarding the subject of Dale Jr. being named a suspect in this case, or more accurately the Prime Suspect and several believing it to be a stupid decision on LE part.. And some believe that his being named a suspect "automatically" means that LE better be handing down an arrest warrant for Dale Jr. In the extremely, very near future..*

    Starting with the latter I'm still confused as to how any believe that his being named a suspect somehow puts LE on some type imaginary timer that is quickly ticking down for the time when the timer goes off sounding the alert that LE must hand down an arrest at that very moment, No matter what.. And should they fail to do so that it somehow looks bad on LE, or could even somehow negatively impact Michelle's case.. This is just far from true or accurate.. As has been stated several times naming an individual a suspect has no legal bearing, period.. IMO it is strictly another tool used by LE on "appropriate" individuals, and in appropriate cases..appropriate meaning that in any case and every case THERE IS A SUSPECT(s) ALWAYS the only differentiating factor is whether or not to name that/those suspect(s) PUBLICLY..*

    In the latter of when it would be INAPPROPRIATE*naming a suspect publicly would be when you have qqthe suspect(s) cooperating in some manner.. Any manner honestly.. And there ATLEAST be a line of communication with LE, even if extremely minimal.. If these issues are present then it's not really appropriate or necessary to publicly name your suspect.. In many cases such as the type where there is ATLEAST some cooperation/communication publicly naming the suspect actually works AGAINST the best interest of the case.. The suspect shuts down all communication for good, zero co-op at that point, becomes on the extreme defense, and likely lawyers up to the hilt.. This is working against the best interest of the case to "publicly" name the suspect(s)..

    But those issues are not and were not present in this case!! The suspect(and face it he has been a suspect behind closed doors way before they announced it publicly) was already extremely on the defensive, there are obviously issues at play here we haven't a clue of that had a judge issue a SWAT team, guns drawn, tear gas used, bust down the door execution of a search warrant on Sr.'s house, even prior to all of that Dale refused to co-operate with LE period and had for over a week(that means less than 3days into the case)he'd already shut down all lines of communication With LE, and had even gone as far as to hire a criminal defense atty(NeJame).. AND ALL OF THIS WAS DONE PRIOR TO LE EVER NAMING DALE A PRIME SUSPECT PUBLICLY!!!

    So, not only is it glaringly apparent to all involved as well as the public that without a single doubt LE had him named their suspect behind closed doors already.. Combined with the multitude of issues I just listed ^above^ that Dale had decided and chosen to do ALL BEFORE HIS BEING NAMED A SUSPECT.. there is not one, single, solitary reason why they should not *have named him a suspect publicly.. It in no way whatsoever works against the best interest of this case and if anything it takes the dial and turns the heat way up making Dale all the more uncomfortable, nervous, and yes, even likely to screw up in a way that will help LE crack this case!!

    This case was absolutely the epitome of appropriate for publicly naming the suspect and there is not one single negative impact that it causes.. And there certainly is no imaginary timer that begins ticking when LE names a suspect.. It has zero meaning or bearing on this case, it's best interest, or it's final outcome.. It's Dale Jr that chose to do everything opposite of how an individual cooperates with LE when their child's*Mother has disappeared(very likely murdered).. He chose to not speak to LE 3days in, he chose to co-op with them zero, he decided and chose he needed a high falooting criminal defense atty..*

    Just as with almost every other issue pertaining to this case.. It is solely up to Dale and how he chooses to go about handling this continued investigation.. His choices and actions decide his future.. LE is going to solve this case with or without the help of Mr. Dale Jr.. Now it's up to Dale whether he wants to work for or against this continued effort to find his children's mom..

    ETA: sorry this post landed randomly in the midst of other differing discussions.. I'm still playing catch up.. Now back off to finally get caught up
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    Quote Originally Posted by wenwe4 View Post
    ok so I noticed a "suspicious incident @ that address @ 14:36 on 12/13 on this site

    http://www.cityoforlando.net/police/...ls/index.shtml

    not saying this is related . . . . . just that there might be hope.
    Actually, quite a bit of activity in that area this month...wish we could see Nov.
    http://www.spotcrime.com/crime/#WALD...20Orlando%20Fl

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    Michelle Parker was last seen in the area of Lee Vista / S. Goldenrod Rd on Thursday, November 17, 2011 at approximately 4:15 pm.


    Information received from her cell phone indicates Michelle was later in the area of Sandlake Road / Orange Avenue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klh2502 View Post
    I'm jumping in late in the threads, but I have been reading and following along for a while now. I just wanted to say hello to everyone and this is an amazing community of people here. I live in Geneva and went to school with Dustin and Lauren, so this is really hitting home for me. It seems so surreal, but breaks my heart all over again when the reality hits me that this is actually happening.

    realityorlando, your description of Geneva is really spot on, it made me chuckle a little. my parents live out more toward lake harney and it really is very rural. i have never even met some neighbors and we have been in the same house for 8 years. off topic, i heard somewhere that they are building either a publix or walmart across from the gas stations. i dont know how accurate that is, but i hope that they dont!

    to add to the question of daycares, unless one of the churches has one (which i do not know, they very well could and is something i could find out if it would be helpful), then the closest daycare out of geneva be in the downtown Oviedo area, there are definitely no daycare 'centers' in geneva.

    someone posted earlier also about the speed limit on 419 going into oviedo from geneva being 45-55 which is correct...another thing to keep in mind is that it is a 1 lane each way road and a lot of it is 'no passing' so if you are stuck behind someone going 30, well then you are also going 30 and you will have to tack some extra time on to your trip.
    I'm so sorry that this is happening. It must be hard when you know the family of someone who is missing... and especially from a small, close-knit community like Geneva.

    I have been thinking that perhaps the day care is close to the beauty shop in Oviedo which makes it handy for Michelle and her mother when they are working there. We know that she left the shop to pick up the children at 2:30 but I wonder if perhaps she got her son off to school in the AM and then drove to Oviedo with the twins, dropped them at day care and then went in to work at the beauty shop. Then, when she left the shop at 2:30 all she needed to do was pick up the twins at day care in Oviedo which would have taken a little while (to gather their things, sign them out, etc.) and then go on to DS2's from there arriving at 3:18 like the video shows. Do you know if that timing would be close to correct? This would leave the timing of driving back and forth from Oviedo to Geneva off the timeline all together and gives her around 45 minutes to gather the children and drive to DS2's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    Michelle Parker was last seen in the area of Lee Vista / S. Goldenrod Rd on Thursday, November 17, 2011 at approximately 4:15 pm.


    Information received from her cell phone indicates Michelle was later in the area of Sandlake Road / Orange Avenue.

    http://www.cfcrimeline.com/most_recent.htm
    That Michelle was in the area or that her phone was? (Sandlake/Orange)
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cluciano63 View Post
    That Michelle was in the area or that her phone was? (Sandlake/Orange)
    It's the LE site.........sounds like they are saying she was. AND IS THE 4;15 SIGHTING FROM ds OR SOMETHING ON THE PHONE?


    oops, sorry for yelling......
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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
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    Is this true? I have not heard that they had footage of her leaving yet. Last I heard they speculated that she left going in the other direction, thus no footage. Does anyone have links to this?
    I think the correct term used was LE knows when the Hummer left but will not state any details. There has been nothing said about MP leaving the condo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    It's the LE site.........sounds like they are saying she was.
    All of us just want her to be found....

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    Intersection of Sandlake and Orange Ave.



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