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    Wisdom tooth extraction death

    Saw this today:

    http://news.yahoo.com/parents-sue-te...143224302.html

    So tragic, she was their only child and was undergoing what they thought was a routine procedure.

    I don't want to offend any dentists in our group, there can be solid reasons for this procedure. Far too often it's 'yank em out' and this is sold to parents as a necessary thing. I still have mine and I'm in my early sixties with no apparent ill effect. Mine never came in; for years every time I went to a new dentist I got the hard sell on having this done and refused.
    'Never stop fighting..never give up'

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    My 23-year-old son just had his out...they were growing sideways in his mouth, causing a lot of pain, and he couldn't get to the teeth back there to brush them adequately. Thank goodness he wasn't put under to have this done! If I had a child who had to be put under, I'd have the procedure done in a hospital.

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    Lots of us really have no choice but to have our wisdom teeth removed. There simply isn't room in our mouths for them and we are in constant pain. (My own were removed over a period of 20 years, as each became a problem.)

    What often IS a choice is the decision to have it done under a general anesthetic. I've had it done both ways (before I knew the risks) and there's no question it's more pleasant to be totally out when they yank out a tooth.

    But it usually isn't essential. And a certain (small) percentage of people will react badly to a general anesthetic regardless of the skill of the doctors. Meanwhile, a local anesthetic can in most cases take care of the pain, so one merely has to deal with the unpleasant pressure and cracking sounds.

    I'm sure there are cases where the patient has no choice but to be put out completely. For the rest of us, less (anesthetic) is more (safe).

    (ETA: to be perfectly clear, I am not an orthodontist. The above is my opinion based on my experiences as a patient.)

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    This is so terrifying! I had all four of mine removed via oral surgery several years ago. I was in terrible pain and there was really no choice.

    My son had all four of his removed last year - also under anesthesia - at age 17. Oddly (and thankfully), my daughter has NO wisdom teeth at all.

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    I have to go to the dentist with a broken tooth on Monday morning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefriahaia View Post
    I have to go to the dentist with a broken tooth on Monday morning!
    I'm so sorry if you are in pain. But it's too soon to panic. You may just need a cap to fix the tooth. That can often be done with no pain at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy1 View Post
    This is so terrifying! I had all four of mine removed via oral surgery several years ago. I was in terrible pain and there was really no choice.

    My son had all four of his removed last year - also under anesthesia - at age 17. Oddly (and thankfully), my daughter has NO wisdom teeth at all.
    I think your daughter is the future, Fairy1. Does she have an appendix?

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    My five kids:

    2 with no wisdom teeth
    1 with one wisdom tooth (lower)
    1 with two wisdom teeth (lower only)
    1 with all four

    Plus, one of my children never developed an adult molar in the exact same position as I never did.

    My son had all four of his removed prior to braces and he was awake, just numbed but his weren't impacted (but had the potential to be so and he didn't have enough room in his mouth for them if they erupted anyway).

    Bless this family. Such a terrible loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova View Post
    I think your daughter is the future, Fairy1. Does she have an appendix?
    im 25 and ive got none,i searched online n it says if u dont have them by 25 its unlikely you'll get any so im hoping thats the case and im the future too

    i hope i dont get any and have to get them out,i'm not to keen on the idea of going under anesthesia never have done just freaks me out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefriahaia View Post
    I have to go to the dentist with a broken tooth on Monday morning!
    This made me laugh, but only because I'm going tomorrow...for a root canal!!


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    These poor parents. How terribly sad.

    Praying DD doesn't read that.

    On the other side of the fence I told DD "those wisdom teeth need to come out". That went on for a few years. The Dentist claimed she isn't complaining so they are fine. Fast forward and there's a young lady in pain leading to is it her ear? Is it allergies? Lost school time, lost work time. I say "It's them teeth".

    So we're at an oral surgeon who calls me back to show me the small crack in the tooth that lead to infection. "No wonder she was in pain" the man says. My kid does not cry and to see her crying one night in an ER about killed me. Nobody knew what it was.

    One more left to take out. Needless to say she has a new Dentist, but it messed her jaw up no question.

    My heart breaks for these parents.

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    I'm having all of my teeth taken out in stages, and I don't want general anesthesia. Maybe it's the way I was raised, but I have always believed that the only reason for general anesthetic is if and when you are being cut open, and really don't want to be awake anyway. I had four, including one wisdom tooth, removed, just over a year ago, and I'll be having the rest taken out about a dozen at a time, and I'm not at all worried about being awake when it's done. The idea of being knocked out for something so simple scares me more than the procedure.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    Im surprised that there are still dentists doing general anasthesia in their office. I have a child with special needs and couldnt find any dentists within in a 200 mile radius that would. We have to go to the hospital and the dentist does the work with an anathesiologist.

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    My #2 son was born without any-- interesting how many there are just on this thread! #1 son had his removed with a nitrous gas treatment, as I did (my dentist flew me to the moon and back, lol).

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    The complications were "heart rate and blood oxygen level dropped" and "hypoxia -- oxygen deprivation while she was anesthetized".

    Ok. So her heart stopped her a bit, and she was resuscitated. But, that is a risk with all surgeries. Also, it could be that she was taking a drug that was not reported to the anesthetist which made putting her and keeping her under more difficult. I'm not trying to place/divert blame.

    I'm not seeing where they have a case to sue.

    Sure, it's sad that this girl was their only child although I kind of get the impression from the article that if they had another child they wouldn't be going this route?

    Article says "if they hadn't waited so long she would still be here". Isn't true. Obviously (I hope) there is some information missing from the article, because I don't know how long their 'so long' is. But, it's realistic that even if resuscitation is started seconds after the heart rate slows down that the person won't be brought back.

    It's a risk with all surgeries, and like the article and some in here have said it isn't a necessary surgery. Her family could have opted out of it. They chose not to. It's sad sure, but they assumed the risk by having her have the surgery.
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    When I had mine out I had the gas mask type, and I think (not 100% sure) that surgery was performed in a hospital room.

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