Page 23 of 55 FirstFirst ... 131415161718192021222324252627282930313233 ... LastLast
Results 551 to 575 of 1359

Thread: GA - Jorelys Rivera, 7, Canton, 2 Dec 2011 - Ryan Brunn convicted - #5

  1. #551
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    1,324
    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalyn View Post
    Technically speaking, they may have not used the term sodomized because the legal definition of sodomy can refer to oral or anal penetration, iirc.
    Attached link explains the legal definition of sodomy in the State of Georgia. Statue: 16.6.2
    http://laws.vatavia.net/georgia.html#Sodomy

  2. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Hickory Born For This Useful Post:


  3. #552
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Nestled Deep in Southern Hospitality
    Posts
    17,845
    Quote Originally Posted by Magdalyn View Post
    I hear you and agree. I should say I intellectually agree.

    I'm sure 23 hours a day of isolation for years and years wouldn't be a cakewalk for him, in one of the early news articles, a person who used to be a friend of RBs hung out with him and said RB was weird and 'in his own head' a lot. So I don't think solitary would bother him as much as it would ... say .... Casey Anthony. But then again, he too (on Facebook) kept mentioning 'I'm bored...' over and over, so....

    And certainly it will frighten him and cause him stress to think on his own impending death. But I still doubt he'll ever know the same kind of terror and level of sustained pain that Jorelys did for the hour to hour and a half. The bad person in me wants that for him.

    I'm just having very un-christian, un-politically correct 'an eye for an eye' thoughts right now.

    He has earned himself the death penalty, I agree. And heartless as it sounds, and no matter the total cost for a death penalty case, I'd rather not think of my tax dollars paying his rent until he's 85 years old or more.

    I'll now, cause I'm sure I'm not making myself look like a very nice person!
    I feel your passion, anger and outrage. It is totally understandable in a case like this.

    You think like my husband. He thinks Brunn should be subjected to everything he put Jorelys through before she died.

    IMO
    "Pardon Our Noise, It's the Sound of Freedom" USMC New River Air Station, Jacksonville, North Carolina

  4. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to oceanblueeyes For This Useful Post:


  5. #553
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    SouthEast
    Posts
    145
    Quote Originally Posted by Hickory Born View Post
    Attached link explains the legal definition of sodomy in the State of Georgia. Statue: 16.6.2
    http://laws.vatavia.net/georgia.html#Sodomy
    So she was sodomized. Something wasn't simply inserted. IMO, the act is being whitewashed by using that word. NONE of this should be whitewashed. In regards to this piece of ****, I have very not nice thoughts about him as well and I think he should be skinned with a rusty knife and dipped in salt.

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to milagoddess For This Useful Post:


  7. #554
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Nestled Deep in Southern Hospitality
    Posts
    17,845
    Quote Originally Posted by milagoddess View Post
    So she was sodomized. Something wasn't simply inserted. IMO, the act is being whitewashed by using that word. NONE of this should be whitewashed. In regards to this piece of ****, I have very not nice thoughts about him as well and I think he should be skinned with a rusty knife and dipped in salt.
    Not by the legal definition.

    From Hickory's link above.

    16-6-22.2. Aggravated sexual battery.

    This law covers 'foreign objects."
    "Pardon Our Noise, It's the Sound of Freedom" USMC New River Air Station, Jacksonville, North Carolina

  8. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to oceanblueeyes For This Useful Post:


  9. #555
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    313
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Know? View Post
    There's been more posted about Ryan's roomate & Ryan. DMAM is just yacking away, talking about the roomates with a few bits of info. Same fb as you listed cat thief.

    We don't have a social site thread in the Parking Lot for Jorely. Not a lot out there but it seems there's a handful talking.
    BBM
    Oh, isn't she ever? ..enough said, but it is amazing that she would want to brng her name and face into this in such a public way.

  10. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to marazul For This Useful Post:


  11. #556
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Posts
    5,926
    Quote Originally Posted by oceanblueeyes View Post
    You're more than welcome, Magdalyn.

    Well if you want to think being locked down in a cell 23 hours a day and a supervised hour out then I guess that could be called 'protection.' I prefer to call it 'isolation' which can be torture to a human being who is meant to have human contact.

    While being put in general population can have risks to the inmate the truth is rarely are prisoners killed by other inmates.
    It happens all the time - many times reported as suicide or heat failure. Prisons depend on funding - a good report card means better funding.


    It use to be if an inmate was a child killer or a pedophile the other inmates would retaliate but tragically nowadays there are a lot of child rapists and murderers in prison and they are not harmed by other inmates.
    Pedophiles don't go to prison unless they collect child pornography or commit a crime against a child. Then they become pornography traffickers and child molesters. Child molesters are only harmed when they are put into regular population. In most cases, they are in a completely different area of the prison and are given drugs to control them. This keeps the very thing you are addressing down - murders of child sex offenders in prison.

    Now it does happen from time to time but in comparison to the 2.5 million inmates we have in our penal system killings inside of prisons are rare. Rapes are also rare despite what some may believe.
    Sex in prison between inmates is about release for most of the (male) prisoners who participate - and it is something they do NOT report or want to admit. In other words, the statistics would be greatly skewed. They did a prisoner survey about a year or so ago, and the numbers were adamantly disputed by the prison system

    Killings, again, are not rare - and beatings are common place. I have a good friend who is a prison guard. In the past few years she was involved in two hostage situations of which, only one was publicized.

    Serial killers have more risk of being put in general population. Like Jeffrey Dahmar who asked to be placed there. The only pedophile that I can remember at the moment being killed while they were in prison was one of the Priests who was a pedophile. (Sorry cant think of his name now)
    His name was Geoghan and he was a child rapist. He was in protective custody but a prisoner still got to him.

    So I would rather see him on death row. First, because I think this case IS a death penalty case. Secondly, while the appeals take time Brunn will sit in that cell locked down 23 hours a day and he will know everyday that passes he is one day closer to paying for what he has done to a precious innocent little girl that deserved to live and grow up to have her own family one day.
    Murderers and rapists don't sit around and admonish themselves about the crimes they commit...they don't anguish over the victims - they adapt. Richard Speck killed 6 six (approx.), nurses in the 60's. He was given life in prison - look up the video of him and his hormone induced breasts, snorting cocaine off his boyfriend's knee. The only justice for a convicted RB is sure and swift death - no waiting around 13 years for this states appeal process. ALL IMO, of course.

    IMO[/QUOTE]

  12. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to vlpate For This Useful Post:


  13. #557
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    161
    Quote Originally Posted by milagoddess View Post
    So she was sodomized. Something wasn't simply inserted. IMO, the act is being whitewashed by using that word


    I have a thought, but I need to know how to insert a spoiler first.

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to duchessofdork For This Useful Post:


  15. #558
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    1,324
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Know? View Post
    There's been more posted about Ryan's roomate & Ryan. DMAM is just yacking away, talking about the roomates with a few bits of info. Same fb as you listed cat thief.

    We don't have a social site thread in the Parking Lot for Jorely. Not a lot out there but it seems there's a handful talking.
    IMHO, DMAM should shut-up. It is not her place to be giving all this info out to the public, potential jurors, or Brunn's defense attorney (which I feel for certain has someone reading that FB site).

  16. The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Hickory Born For This Useful Post:


  17. #559
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    1,324
    Quote Originally Posted by milagoddess View Post
    1. Who is DMAM?

    2. What is the Parking Lot for Jorelys?
    According to her words on that website GMAM is the paternal grandmother of RB's roommate.

  18. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Hickory Born For This Useful Post:


  19. #560
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Posts
    1,324
    After reading the sexual statues of Georgia,
    http://laws.vatavia.net/georgia.html#Sodomy
    I do think RB kept this fantasy to himself and did not email photos to others. If he had emails others the photos, he most likely would have been charged with
    16-12-80. Distributing obscene materials; obscene material defined; penalty.

    All this makes me wonder if GBI has checked the family computer in Dahlonega.

  20. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to Hickory Born For This Useful Post:


  21. #561
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    9,620
    Quote Originally Posted by milagoddess View Post
    1. Who is DMAM?

    2. What is the Parking Lot for Jorelys?
    Sorry, but if you find the fb page, that's the persons initials that is posting a lot. We can't use innocent peoples names here.

    You can find the Parking Lot (for members only btw) on the main page of this site but here's a link to it. There hasn't been a thread for Jorely started was all I was saying. Check out Aliahna Lemmon thread and you will get the idea of what it's all about. Read the first post of that thread for all the rules etc..Hope that answers your questions.

    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=35"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

  22. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Dr. Know? For This Useful Post:


  23. #562
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Nestled Deep in Southern Hospitality
    Posts
    17,845
    Quote Originally Posted by vlpate View Post
    It happens all the time - many times reported as suicide or heat failure. Prisons depend on funding - a good report card means better funding.



    Pedophiles don't go to prison unless they collect child pornography or commit a crime against a child. Then they become pornography traffickers and child molesters. Child molesters are only harmed when they are put into regular population. In most cases, they are in a completely different area of the prison and are given drugs to control them. This keeps the very thing you are addressing down - murders of child sex offenders in prison.



    Sex in prison between inmates is about release for most of the (male) prisoners who participate - and it is something they do NOT report or want to admit. In other words, the statistics would be greatly skewed. They did a prisoner survey about a year or so ago, and the numbers were adamantly disputed by the prison system

    Killings, again, are not rare - and beatings are common place. I have a good friend who is a prison guard. In the past few years she was involved in two hostage situations of which, only one was publicized.


    His name was Geoghan and he was a child rapist. He was in protective custody but a prisoner still got to him.



    Murderers and rapists don't sit around and admonish themselves about the crimes they commit...they don't anguish over the victims - they adapt. Richard Speck killed 6 six (approx.), nurses in the 60's. He was given life in prison - look up the video of him and his hormone induced breasts, snorting cocaine off his boyfriend's knee. The only justice for a convicted RB is sure and swift death - no waiting around 13 years for this states appeal process. ALL IMO, of course.

    IMO
    [/QUOTE]

    It happens ALL the time?

    Interesting. Do you have any links that I can read that verifies what you have stated.

    I read about unrest in certain prisons from time to time and about inmates getting into fights but I dont ever read about inmates being killed all the time and dropping like flies. Why would all the families of these inmates keep that covered up? I do read about an occasional murder done by another inmate but certainly not on an 'all the time' basis.

    I would be very interested in reading them.

    Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by oceanblueeyes; 01-12-2012 at 09:15 PM.
    "Pardon Our Noise, It's the Sound of Freedom" USMC New River Air Station, Jacksonville, North Carolina

  24. The Following User Says Thank You to oceanblueeyes For This Useful Post:


  25. #563
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    SouthEast
    Posts
    145
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Know? View Post
    Sorry, but if you find the fb page, that's the persons initials that is posting a lot. We can't use innocent peoples names here.

    You can find the Parking Lot (for members only btw) on the main page of this site but here's a link to it. There hasn't been a thread for Jorely started was all I was saying. Check out Aliahna Lemmon thread and you will get the idea of what it's all about. Read the first post of that thread for all the rules etc..Hope that answers your questions.

    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
    Ahhhh gotcha. The # of initials was throwing me off.

    Thanks.

  26. The Following User Says Thank You to milagoddess For This Useful Post:


  27. #564
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    The Burbs
    Posts
    1,026
    I have a theory about these kinds of crimes. I may offend some people but I really don't care. I think the porn industry is alot to blame for the apparent increase in pedophilia. And with the internet porn industry people have unlimited access to the most kinky and disgusting types of porn. I think men who look at porn become desensitized to the really kinky stuff and once they get to that point they need to push the envelope a little further to become aroused. I think some people get to a point where they need something even kinkier and more taboo than just regular bondage or S&M with another consenting adult. I have no facts backing this up. .... It is just speculation and my opinion.

    I also want to say that I am not implying everyone who likes to be tied up is a child molester but some will eventually reach across that line at some point.
    The above post is as always MY OPINION ONLY!

  28. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to georgiagirl For This Useful Post:


  29. #565
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    The Burbs
    Posts
    1,026
    I am just curious as to whether RB had a porn addiction that got out of control in the teen years resulting in him fantasizing about committing a crime like this. Not that this is in anyway an excuse.


    Quote Originally Posted by georgiagirl View Post
    I have a theory about these kinds of crimes. I may offend some people but I really don't care. I think the porn industry is alot to blame for the apparent increase in pedophilia. And with the internet porn industry people have unlimited access to the most kinky and disgusting types of porn. I think men who look at porn become desensitized to the really kinky stuff and once they get to that point they need to push the envelope a little further to become aroused. I think some people get to a point where they need something even kinkier and more taboo than just regular bondage or S&M with another consenting adult. I have no facts backing this up. .... It is just speculation and my opinion.

    I also want to say that I am not implying everyone who likes to be tied up is a child molester but some will eventually reach across that line at some point.
    The above post is as always MY OPINION ONLY!

  30. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to georgiagirl For This Useful Post:


  31. #566
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    29
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Know? View Post
    Sorry, but if you find the fb page, that's the persons initials that is posting a lot. We can't use innocent peoples names here.

    You can find the Parking Lot (for members only btw) on the main page of this site but here's a link to it. There hasn't been a thread for Jorely started was all I was saying. Check out Aliahna Lemmon thread and you will get the idea of what it's all about. Read the first post of that thread for all the rules etc..Hope that answers your questions.

    Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
    Can someone start a thread? It would be good to have a place to discuss things where everyone can't see it.

  32. The Following User Says Thank You to log1c_cat For This Useful Post:


  33. #567
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    29
    Quote Originally Posted by georgiagirl View Post
    I have a theory about these kinds of crimes. I may offend some people but I really don't care. I think the porn industry is alot to blame for the apparent increase in pedophilia. And with the internet porn industry people have unlimited access to the most kinky and disgusting types of porn. I think men who look at porn become desensitized to the really kinky stuff and once they get to that point they need to push the envelope a little further to become aroused. I think some people get to a point where they need something even kinkier and more taboo than just regular bondage or S&M with another consenting adult. I have no facts backing this up. .... It is just speculation and my opinion.

    I also want to say that I am not implying everyone who likes to be tied up is a child molester but some will eventually reach across that line at some point.
    I think that's true to an extent. One type of porn I really hate is that which has the gals dress up like schoolgirls, or even little girls or infants.

  34. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to log1c_cat For This Useful Post:


  35. #568
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    161
    Quote Originally Posted by Hickory Born View Post
    IMHO, DMAM should shut-up. It is not her place to be giving all this info out to the public, potential jurors, or Brunn's defense attorney (which I feel for certain has someone reading that FB site).
    Dude, I'm trying to imagine letting someone sleep in my apartment 'cause the cops had their sealed off looking for evidence of child rape and murder.

  36. The Following 8 Users Say Thank You to duchessofdork For This Useful Post:


  37. #569
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Posts
    161
    Quote Originally Posted by log1c_cat View Post
    I think that's true to an extent. One type of porn I really hate is that which has the gals dress up like schoolgirls, or even little girls or infants.
    I think violent porn would turn someone off pretty quickly unless they already had those tendencies.

  38. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to duchessofdork For This Useful Post:


  39. #570
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    San Diego, CA
    Posts
    12,337
    I think the person on FB (DMAM) is gone. I don't see any posts by that person...unless I'm on the wrong page.

    Mel

  40. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Melanie For This Useful Post:


  41. #571
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Nestled Deep in Southern Hospitality
    Posts
    17,845
    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    I think the person on FB (DMAM) is gone. I don't see any posts by that person...unless I'm on the wrong page.

    Mel
    When I was over there tonight Brunn's brother Sean was posting.

    imo
    "Pardon Our Noise, It's the Sound of Freedom" USMC New River Air Station, Jacksonville, North Carolina

  42. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to oceanblueeyes For This Useful Post:


  43. #572
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Nestled Deep in Southern Hospitality
    Posts
    17,845
    Quote Originally Posted by georgiagirl View Post
    I have a theory about these kinds of crimes. I may offend some people but I really don't care. I think the porn industry is alot to blame for the apparent increase in pedophilia. And with the internet porn industry people have unlimited access to the most kinky and disgusting types of porn. I think men who look at porn become desensitized to the really kinky stuff and once they get to that point they need to push the envelope a little further to become aroused. I think some people get to a point where they need something even kinkier and more taboo than just regular bondage or S&M with another consenting adult. I have no facts backing this up. .... It is just speculation and my opinion.

    I also want to say that I am not implying everyone who likes to be tied up is a child molester but some will eventually reach across that line at some point.
    I really dont know what causes a pedophile. I doubt it is looking at adult porn though ...even bondage adult porn.. since unfortunately many millions look at adult porn yearly including millions of women and the vast majority of men and women will never commit a crime at all against children or anyone else.

    The last stats I read said that porn makes billions in profit yearly so that shows a whole lot of people are viewing porn it seems. CNN did report that the demand for kiddie porn is on the rise and both genders are viewing it. Maybe that is because the internet has made it more accessible.

    Its not only men who are pedophiles. Even mothers are sexually abusing their own children and sometimes even videos the sex acts. I think there are more women out there that are pedophiles than we think there is. They just aren't looked at as closely as a male.

    It is not up to me to judge what someone else does, but for me personally, I find porn of any kind disgusting. It is so degrading both for the men and the women who partake in it, imoo. I dont even like the shows where these mothers make their children up to look like sex symbols and hookers on stage at a very young age.

    It has to be something inside each individual person who does this. If not, the mere looking a porn would create an epedimic of pedophiles in our country. Stranger pedophiles are still very rare....about 5% are strangers who rape and murder children.

    They have to already have these perversion to seek out kiddie porn, imo. So the desire is already there for little children before they even look at the porn. I have read that many are just statisfied with fantasizing about it but some will act out on their fantasies resulting in cases like Jorelys'.

    What makes Brunn different than other some other stranger pedophiles imo is his lust to torture his victim before death. A lot of times the child is nabbed, raped, killed by smothering or strangling and thrown away.

    I dont read a lot of pedophile cases where torture seems to be such major factor as it was in this case. It did happened with the Greone children and Sandra Cantu though. That is why I think these individuals are sadists and probably have had these kind of sadistic fantasies most of their lives. They are in a league all of their own, imo, even when it comes to a pedophile.

    Most pedophiles molest/rape their own children and other family members but do not murder them. It seems the ones most likely to murder and torture are some of the stranger pedophiles.

    IMO
    Last edited by oceanblueeyes; 01-13-2012 at 12:03 AM.
    "Pardon Our Noise, It's the Sound of Freedom" USMC New River Air Station, Jacksonville, North Carolina

  44. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to oceanblueeyes For This Useful Post:


  45. #573
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    9,620
    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    I think the person on FB (DMAM) is gone. I don't see any posts by that person...unless I'm on the wrong page.

    Mel
    I just checked and DMAM, those are initials btw, is still there. The post by Prove Ryan Brunn is Guilty goes something like don't some of you have kids...only not so nicely put. They just commented 22 minutes ago under that post. HTH.

  46. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Dr. Know? For This Useful Post:


  47. #574
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Sandy Springs
    Posts
    176
    Quote Originally Posted by duchessofdork View Post
    Dude, I'm trying to imagine letting someone sleep in my apartment 'cause the cops had theirs sealed off looking for evidence of child rape and murder.
    Yes it would be an ackward situation.

    Me: I'm afraid you'll have to sleep on the couch. I will grab you a pillow and blanket. (whispers to myself...where's my gun at?)

    RB: Thanks Brah. I really appreciate you letting me chill here.

    Me: It's ok I'm off work tomorrow. Don't worry about it. Could happen to anyone.

    RB: I know right?

    Me: Well maybe not...but if you were at Walmart then thats a strong alibi. You did pass the lie dectector test too right? (...where did I put those extra bullets?)

    RB: Man those tests are whack. I read on the Internet lie detector tests ain't admissible in court. I ain't sweating that dawg.

    Me: Oh yea I heard that too (dawg? where's my dog?) Spyke get your butt in the bedroom! NOW!

    RB:Yo bro You got internet here? I need to check some stuff online.

    Me: Yes...I mean...No...well yes but it's screwed...I...I didn't pay the bill...I got a virus...the modem...it's lame bro keeps booting me off...damn cable company.

    RB: Aight homie. You got any beer? how bout some weed?

    Me: Well I need to be getting to sleep now uh I need to get up early and go to work

    RB: Work? I thought you said you were off work tomorrow.

    Me: Oh...oh yea...but you know there's always something that needs to be done at work. I mean they always call me in on my day off. We are really behind you know.
    Rest in peace Mamita <3

  48. The Following 9 Users Say Thank You to cat thief For This Useful Post:


  49. #575
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Posts
    9,620
    Good one Cat thief. Thx.

    In that situation, I would have moved heaven and earth to give him his own vacant apartment for the night. Chills to think you'd let a child molesting murderer sleep in your apartment. Scary thought. That would be something I wouldn't forget.

  50. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Dr. Know? For This Useful Post:


Page 23 of 55 FirstFirst ... 131415161718192021222324252627282930313233 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. GA - Jorelys Rivera, 7, Canton, 2 Dec 2011 - #4
    By Kat in forum Recently Sentenced and Beyond
    Replies: 937
    Last Post: 12-16-2011, 08:24 PM
  2. GA - Jorelys Rivera, 7, Canton, 2 Dec 2011 - #3
    By bessie in forum Recently Sentenced and Beyond
    Replies: 1035
    Last Post: 12-10-2011, 12:26 AM
  3. Found Deceased GA - Jorely Rivera - 7 years old - Canton - 2-Dec-2011
    By summer_breeze in forum Located! Information and Support
    Replies: 20
    Last Post: 12-08-2011, 04:15 PM
  4. GA - Jorelys Rivera, 7, Canton 2 Dec 2011 - #2
    By bessie in forum Recently Sentenced and Beyond
    Replies: 814
    Last Post: 12-07-2011, 10:42 PM
  5. GA - Jorelys Rivera, 7, Canton, 2 Dec 2011 - #1
    By SheWhoMustNotBeNamed in forum Recently Sentenced and Beyond
    Replies: 932
    Last Post: 12-06-2011, 11:53 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •