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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    Sorry, I am not ready to hand him out a medal just because he didn't kill his alleged victim. And I have no idea how one can get either "miserable" or "manageable" prison sentence. It doesn't work that way. He is already not eligible for the death penalty because the alleged victim wasn't killed, and that seems to me all the slack he should get.
    You seem to be misunderstanding my point. I'm not handing him a medal, I'm not saying he shouldn't go to jail, and I'm not saying that he should get a reduced sentence.

    The difference between a manageable and a miserable prison sentence, more often than not, is location. Will he serve his sentence somewhere close to where he lived, so that he can have family visit if they wish to? Or will DOC stick him on the other side of the state, where family couldn't visit if they wanted to?

    Nothing can erase what he did, and nothing can fix him. He is dangerous and he should be locked up for as long as our system will allow. I'm looking at this as an opportunity to use this guy to the good of society. If they send a message through him that you do get a little bit of slack as long as you let your victim live, then maybe there will be one less dead child in the future.
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    I think the message should be-don't abduct and molest children to begin with.
    Just my opinion


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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    I think the message should be-don't abduct and molest children to begin with.
    Of course it should be the message. But it is also sad but true that many abusers have been leaving their victims face down in a pool of blood. And I am relieved to see one case where the child was returned alive, and left in a safe place. Sure, it is pathetic that I find any comfort in that, but I do. Because too many times recently we have seen the victims wrapped in garbage bags or left in raging rivers. For whatever reason, this creep decided to show his victim some level of mercy. I have no problem giving him some credit for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    I think the message should be-don't abduct and molest children to begin with.
    Yes, because sending that message and leaving it at that has done so well. Ask Somer Thompson, or Jessica Lunsford, or Samantha Runnion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    Yes, because sending that message and leaving it at that has done so well. Ask Somer Thompson, or Jessica Lunsford, or Samantha Runnion.
    Considering that two of the accused perps in cases that you mentioned were either convicted or accused of sex related offenses prior to the murders, maybe they shouldn't have been given "slack" to begin with, before they allegedly committed these murders.
    Just my opinion


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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    Considering that two of the accused perps in cases that you mentioned were either convicted or accused of sex related offenses prior to the murders, maybe they shouldn't have been given "slack" to begin with, before they allegedly committed these murders.
    Did any of them drop their prior victims off at the police station after the incidents?
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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    Did any of them drop their prior victims off at the police station after the incidents?
    And what does that have to do with a price of tea in China? Clearly they got slack, one wasn't convicted at all of prior child molestations he was accused of, the other one didn't kill the victims he was convicted for. And how good did that work?
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    Police said it's possible he spent up to 12 hours alone with the girl, but they're not sure. They were able to locate him after he dropped her off because of a witness who saw him and followed him.
    "People who go to prison for eight years for attempted murder for stabbing a woman in the heart do not rehabilitate," Anthony said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlcox View Post
    Police said it's possible he spent up to 12 hours alone with the girl, but they're not sure. They were able to locate him after he dropped her off because of a witness who saw him and followed him.
    "People who go to prison for eight years for attempted murder for stabbing a woman in the heart do not rehabilitate," Anthony said.

    http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/...ge-abdu/nF4X8/
    I think that should be kind of obvious, but apparently not.
    Just my opinion


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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    And what does that have to do with a price of tea in China? Clearly they got slack, one wasn't convicted at all of prior child molestations he was accused of, the other one didn't kill the victims he was convicted for. And how good did that work?
    I don't think anyone is saying that he should be given a medal or a parade. Just being thankful that he did not kill the poor child, like many pedos do these days. I do not understand why that is making people angry to hear someone say that.

    I was raped by my uncle for a few years as a young child.I am to this day, glad to be alive and well. He could killed and hidden my body at some point because I eventually stood up to him and threatened to tell my mother. I am still grateful that he left me alone after that.
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    I think this guy already got plenty of slack, considering his long criminal history which includes attempted murder, and him being out and about. How much more slack is he supposed to get?
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    The difference, in other cases, he was given slack that allowed him to be out and walking around, and that is not at all what I am suggesting in this instance.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    I think this guy already got plenty of slack, considering his long criminal history which includes attempted murder, and him being out and about. How much more slack is he supposed to get?
    So many times on these boards I hear people say, "But WHY did he have to kill her?". Well, this time he didn't kill her and, I, for one am very thankful for that.


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    It's not slack-- he committed a lesser crime, instead of murder it's kidnap and rape. He did it for himself to avoid the death penalty, I'm sure. He's a seasoned inmate/violent criminal, he knew what was what.

    By the time his day in court comes around (if there's even a trial, he'll probably plea bargain so he can get out one day) I hope this young girl testifies solidly, with all the strength and support she needs to get through it. May she heal along the way. (It's wonderful to have such exemplary young lady survivors as Elizabeth Smart and Jaycee Dugard to look to for inspiration. I hope this family turns to the works of these two to assist them in recovery.)

    My heart and mind is with her, the family, and the neighbors who had this monster living amidst them. moo


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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    I don't think anyone is saying that he should be given a medal or a parade. Just being thankful that he did not kill the poor child, like many pedos do these days. I do not understand why that is making people angry to hear someone say that.

    I was raped by my uncle for a few years as a young child.I am to this day, glad to be alive and well. He could killed and hidden my body at some point because I eventually stood up to him and threatened to tell my mother. I am still grateful that he left me alone after that.
    After Jessica's law passed my Uncle said: "I will have to kill the next one. I get the same amount of time either way and a dead girl can't talk."

    He apparently wasn't the only Pedophile that felt that way, from what I heard.

    My Uncle didn't kill because he wanted to keep them around for as long as possible.
    This guy obviously didn't think he was going to get to keep her around.

    There have been cases where the person has been unable to kill the victim, because they actually had a heart.

    They could go to great lengths to keep other inmates from finding out the person's crime.
    They could assist the inmate with being in a prison closer to family.
    They could simply make the time they are there a little more tolerable.

    Nothing which would shorten their sentence, just make it slightly easier to serve.


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