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    Quote Originally Posted by princesspjs View Post
    I don't have a link to a msm article regarding DSsr either but I do know that while I was watching the search at Lake Elenor the news station that I was watching (I have no idea which one it was at this point) DID report that the search was based on DSsr being spotted with his boat at this lake the day after Michelle was missing.

    I never saw it in print anywhere but they repeated that info at least twice that I heard it - then silence about it. It seems to me that the only reason we wouldn't hear anything else about this is that possibly LE has asked msm to not report on that....just like how we haven't heard any additional reports of the security camera catching Michelle's hummer leaving DSjr's condo an hour and a half later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky View Post
    At 27:35

    http://buckethead.realradio.fm/playe...l&mid=21627148


    Neighbor caught Dale Smith's father's Hummer on video with boat attached to it.

    They all have Hummers? Dale Sr, Dale Jr., and Michelle? 3 Hummers in the family? Listen to the podcast.

    Now, I'm really confused.

    Also, in the beginning of this podcast it starts talking about the search at Lake Ellenor.


    ETA: I'm thinking Officer Barb (OPD), who is usually on with them on Wed. mornings, is their source. But, I didn't hear her
    on in this segment. JMO
    Did LE impound the hummer & or boat at the forensics garage?
    Did LE bring in HRD dogs to check out the boat & or it's contents?
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    Excellent Post!

    Quote Originally Posted by annmarie62 View Post
    ...I haven't followed this case very closely, but tonight I decided to "catch up" and ended up reading for two straight hours! Many posts were so detailed and thought-provoking; this is the best thread I've seen since the Casey Anthony case. Since I hadn't looked at this topic for about two weeks, I thought I would find all kinds of new info and progress. However, as so many of you stated, LE is sitting on what it knows for now, leaving us on pins and needles as we wonder which direction the case will take. Like most sleuthers, I firmly believe that Michelle's ex is responsible for her disappearance and (imo) certain death. I am very worried that her remains will never be found... years ago, when I first started following missing person's cases, it seemed that most victims were eventually found, either dead or alive. More and more, though, the opposite is becoming the norm, especially when a woman is missing and the last person to see her was her husband/ex-husband/boyfriend/ex-boyfriend, and these stats are so disheartening!! : (
    Then there are younger women, with no known history of ex's or domestic violence, who seem to have vanished into thin air. WHERE is Holly Bobo? WHERE is Lauren Spierer? WHERE is Haleigh Cummings? The list just goes on and on... Back to Michelle Parker> I just KNOW in my heart that Dale Smith murdered her, for all the reasons brought up already. I watched the "People's Court" video for the first time tonight, and WOW was there a lot going on there. DS is one strange and scary creep; just watching his face during the PC was like looking at Scott Peterson all over again, except I'm sure SP has a higher I.Q. But in both of them, one gets a sense of someone trying to act like a normal human being when actually they are full of narcissism and rage. If I didn't already know about DS's violent background and hatred of/contempt for women, the PC show would have had me laughing, as he looked truly blank, clueless, and just-plain-dumb. Like many of you have noted, he obviously had NO IDEA how he was being perceived in that courtroom! He thought he was some kind of "star", being "chosen" for the show a second time! He didn't realize people- including the freakin' JUDGE!- were making fun of him and seeing him as an idiot. Even when he "won" the case and was being escorted out, he was trying to establish, via texts, that Michelle was still interested in him... when the talking head smirked and refused to look at the text, DS gets mad like a little kid and calls MP "bipolar," which makes him look ignorant and immature. Little did he know that seconds earlier, a very poised and businesslike Michelle had calmly accepted the "verdict" and strongly- rationally- firmly insisted that their relationship was definitely OVER. So when he finally sees the show (and how it's edited) on TV (after bragging about it and telling everyone to watch it), he finally realizes that he has made a fool of himself and becomes livid with rage. He is incapable of laughing at himself and he thinks nothing is ever HIS fault, so he turns his violence on Michelle... that ***** who got the kids and the Hummer... the ***** who is working hard and moving on, who looks more beautiful than ever, who has a new boyfriend, a new life. Surely he knew he wouldn't do any better, even as he desperately enters "hot body" contests in a desperate attempt to be a "star" of some sort, to be worshipped and envied. Maybe, deep down, he realized that no one was rushing to join his fan club, especially no hot females like he deserved. Plus, he had years and years ahead of paying child support for twins, twins his ex had custody of, twins who would eventually get a "new" daddy. Here is a grown man who (sounding like an 8-year-old) brags on his Facebook wall that he "Studied Death, Destruction, Terror and Mayhem at USMC"!!! Failing to mention, of course, that the "USMC" had booted him out with a Dishonorable Discharge!! I mean, this is his maturity level! Combine that with a history of violence toward women, and it is easy to imagine him "snapping" and killing Michelle. Easy. I guess that Michelle was so excited and busy building her new life that she let her guard down, and forgot how dangerous he could truly be. After all, in her mind, they were "over" and she had moved on. They had to continue seeing one another because of the twins, but I'm pretty sure she felt safe dropping them off or picking them up because why would he try anything in front of their children? And she could always call on her new boyfriend, or her family, if he tried anything... I just hope it was quick, whatever he did to get rid of her, and I hope she is found and that Dale Smith pays for what he did, as in my opinion he is a sociopathic MONSTER.
    I think you've hit the nail on the head. My guess is the key to finding Michelle will be to remember that if DS is the culprit, he is likely narcissistic and thus, his emotional development stopped when he was a kid. That should help authorities because it means DS is no criminal mastermind. More than likely, Michelle is somewhere very close to DS and since DS' self-image is dependent on the attention he receives from others, he probably told someone where she is. If he is responsible for Michelle's disappearance, he feels that his actions are completely justified, so as long as he feels he can trust the person to keep the secret, he probably would tell at least one person where she is to bolster the tough guy image he tries to portray. It could be one of DS' girlfriends, or even one of his 501st buddies but I bet he told someone. Now if only that person had the courage to tell law enforcement. MOO
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    Here's a completely different scenario that I'm throwing on the table here, just to have it out there. I don't remember reading this suggestion from anyone. Not that I actually think it's the case, but, hey, it's at least a possibility that hasn't been mentioned (I think), however unlikely.

    Could Michelle have a friend, acquaintance, client, or potential client in the condos where DS II lived, and decided to drop by their unit for a quick visit after she dropped off the kids? And something happened to her there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey2Me1MoThyme View Post
    Vehicles searched, HRD dogs brought in, houses searched, cell phone found = no evidence that we know of pointing to anyone.
    I hope and pray that LE is just holding back key pieces of evidence and not sharing so as not to compromise investigation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lark2 View Post
    I hope and pray that LE is just holding back key pieces of evidence and not sharing so as not to compromise investigation.
    I know it's common practice for LE to hold back a few key pieces to rule out false confessions, and or to tie someone to a case if they mention a key fact that is not known to MSN, but after all these searches and the cell phone, really, why not arrest the guy? That tells me they have very little, unless you think they are going to let a "known killer" walk free while they pussy foot around looking for more evidence. They have nothing big IMHO or an arrest would ahve been made by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey2Me1MoThyme View Post
    I know it's common practice for LE to hold back a few key pieces to rule out false confessions, and or to tie someone to a case if they mention a key fact that is not known to MSN, but after all these searches and the cell phone, really, why not arrest the guy? That tells me they have very little, unless you think they are going to let a "known killer" walk free while they pussy foot around looking for more evidence. They have nothing big IMHO or an arrest would ahve been made by now.
    I think they need the body first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    I think they need the body first.
    They make arrests and convictions on circumstantial evidence all the time, w/o a body, or on real evidence, we're not seeing that here. Why? Because they have little of either IMHO.

    I think they need to bark up some other trees as well as the DSjr tree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IHAVENOCLUE View Post
    Hi littleBitty!

    Can you expand on what you feel? I am intrigued!
    Just woke up today feeling like we might hear something. Can"t explain it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    I think they need the body first.
    I thing they WANT the body first. Personally, my gut tells me that based on the public declaration of DS as PS and finding the cell phone, they could try the case without the body, but it would be very difficult. Just as all no body cases are...and once they arrest him the clock starts ticking on his speedy trial rights. Unless he waves them, but what attorney would advise him to do that when they could find the body in the ensuing time (remember CA had a trial date set for January before little Caylee was found in December).

    I think they are just biding their time, following up every lead, trying to get that last piece of evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that this was murder - Michelle, herself. I think that part of the public naming of Dale as PS was to pysch him out, but also to alleviate the public's fear that there might be a maniac driving around Orlando taking girls. Remember, Orlando is still a tourist town, and the most popular months to visit Disney are January and February...just a thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by maedlamsmom View Post
    I thing they WANT the body first. Personally, my gut tells me that based on the public declaration of DS as PS and finding the cell phone, they could try the case without the body, but it would be very difficult. Just as all no body cases are...and once they arrest him the clock starts ticking on his speedy trial rights. Unless he waves them, but what attorney would advise him to do that when they could find the body in the ensuing time (remember CA had a trial date set for January before little Caylee was found in December).

    I think they are just biding their time, following up every lead, trying to get that last piece of evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that this was murder - Michelle, herself. I think that part of the public naming of Dale as PS was to pysch him out, but also to alleviate the public's fear that there might be a maniac driving around Orlando taking girls. Remember, Orlando is still a tourist town, and the most popular months to visit Disney are January and February...just a thought...
    Since it's been said it takes very little to make DSjr snap and possibly murder someone, do you think LE would allow him to stay on the loose while he has the twins. One may wet their pants and his car seat and BAM dead kid. Or is he now not so volatile? What's your take? I heard it said he loves the twins but I also heard he still loved MP. Seems like a huge risk to me if it's true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey2Me1MoThyme View Post
    Since it's been said it takes very little to make DSjr snap and possibly murder someone, do you think LE would allow him to stay on the loose while he has the twins. One may wet their pants and his car seat and BAM dead kid. Or is he now not so volatile? What's your take? I heard it said he loves the twins but I also heard he still loved MP. Seems like a huge risk to me if it's true.
    It is a big risk, agreed. But if they arrest him too soon, without the much needed evidence, then he will go free anyway. So they do not really have a choice. Some people have said that CPS is keeping a close eye on the children. But as we all know,he could kill himself and the kids in a matter of minutes, if he chose to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey2Me1MoThyme View Post
    Since it's been said it takes very little to make DSjr snap and possibly murder someone, do you think LE would allow him to stay on the loose while he has the twins. One may wet their pants and his car seat and BAM dead kid. Or is he now not so volatile? What's your take? I heard it said he loves the twins but I also heard he still loved MP. Seems like a huge risk to me if it's true.
    Yes. And are they watching him? You bet ... And closely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasCharm View Post
    Yes. And are they watching him? You bet ... And closely.

    imo
    I hope you are right. I do wish if LE thought (with very good reason as in the Susan Powell case) that DSjr is guilty of harming MP, that they would move to have the children removed from his care. they can't watch him 24/7. While I personally still don't think they have but suspicion about him (meaning little to know evidence) I can plainly see why he would be a suspect given his past. I just don't think they have removed blinderss to take a laarger view of other possibilities.
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    Points and Questions Needing Verifiable Answers

    Provisional Comments: Helpful observations without official verification
    Notes: Information with some official verification that may help toward resolution

    Verified: Answered using official verification (may include supplemental evidence)

    1. Name and address of the twins’ daycare facility.
    2. Time when MP picked up the twins from daycare.
    3. What time did MP’s Hummer leave DS II’s condo?
    4. Eyewitness or video of above?
    5. When did DS II leave the condo in his own vehicle?
    6. Did DS II know about his neighbor’s video camera? Provisional Comments: The camera is in plain view on the balcony, as seen in photo taken 12/4 by AlwaysWright http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/...cember4822.jpg. (Contributed by 4BB)
    7. Did neighbors of DS Sr. see vehicles arriving and leaving on 11/17 afternoon?
    8. Location MP’s cell pinged for 4:26 PM “Waterford” text to brother.
    9. When was MP supposed to meet boyfriend NM for dinner?
    10. When did MP’s sister LE call DS II on 11/17, and what time did Yvonne call DS II 11/17 evening?
    11. What numbers did she try and when (ie, cell, or land line at condo or Rose Av.)?
    12. If Mrs. DS Sr. (TS) answered the call to Rose Av., what did she say to Yvonne in reference to why DS II couldn’t come to the phone?
    13. When did DS II return Yvonne’s call, and from what number?
    14. When did LE first contact DS II, and how?
    15. Did LE search DS II’s condo on evening of 11/17, and when did DS II return to his condo from Rose Ave. evening of 11/17 to meet LE?
    16. When he returned, were the twins with him, or did he leave them at DS Sr.’s house?
    17. Was MP’s cell on the entire time up until it was powered down the evening of 11/17, and if it was powered on the entire time, was it moving around constantly (like in a car), or static in one or more locations? What locations have been noted for her cell between 3:18 PM and when it was powered down?
    18. Additional unreleased videos or other electronic evidence to track the route of MP’s Hummer after 3:18 PM on 11/17 (including OnStar, even if it was inactive). Notes: Helpful information and links explaining EPass--http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7430815&postcount=400 (Provided by Sparky, 12/12)
    19. Additional unreleased eyewitness accounts of Hummer movements around town after 3:18 PM.
    20. Details of search warrant for DS Sr.'s house on Rose Ave.
    21. What is MP’s boyfriend NM’s alibi for 11/17 afternoon, and where was he during the times in question?
    22. Who else called or texted MP on 11/17 after 2:30 PM?
    23. Did MP send or receive any texts or make or receive any calls to/from DS II on 11/16 or on 11/17 before 3:18 PM?
    24. Did DS II’s cell ever leave his condo? If so, was his cell on the entire time, and if it was, what locations have been noted for his cell after 3:18 PM on 11/17?
    25. Does DS Sr. own a cell? If so, was his cell on the entire time, and what locations have been noted for his cell after 3:18 PM on 11/17?
    26. What if any evidence did LE find in and on the Hummer?
    27. What fingerprints were on MP's Hummer and her purse and belongings, and where were these located in the Hummer when it was found?
    28. If Dale's prints were found in her Hummer does he frequently get in her car?
    29. Was the Hummer driver's seat set for MP or someone taller?
    30. Were all the Hummer mirrors adjusted to the seat level? Whose fingerprints were on the mirror?
    31. Was the Hummer recently washed?
    32. Did the floor mats and wheel wells of the Hummer or other DS II/Sr. vehicles have any type of dirt mud or material that would possibly match up with a body of water that is nearby?
    33. What if any evidence did LE find at the Rose Ave. house and in any vehicles at the house?
    34. Did LE search DS II’s work van and truck?
    35. Did LE check DS II’s trash inside and out?
    36. For 11/17 search of DS II’s condo, who arrived at the condo for the search first: LE or DS II?
    37. If LE was there first, did DS II arrive in his truck & pull into the garage or did someone else drive him?
    38. If DS II was already there when LE arrived, were there any other vehicles or persons there with him?
    39. Does DS II own a bicycle, or have access to one at the Rose Avenue house?
    40. Confirm ownership of a white van that appears in the condo neighbor’s video, and in a later interview with the neighbor. Is this van DS II’s or a neighbor’s? Provisional Comments: Interview shows larger white van in DS II’s driveway (Chevy), white van shown in neighbor’s video appears to be different make (Dodge?) (provided by Cerebellum, 12/4); the taillights and door handles are different (provided by Kimb103, 12/4)
    41. Did DS II have his own car seats for the twins, or did DS II and MP share car seats?
    42. Did the Hummer have child car seats when found?
    43. Did/will LE search bodies of water near the parking lot where the Hummer was found?
    44. Would it be possible and effective for LE to use heat sensors from helicopters, at night, to help in searches?
    45. Has LE used or will they use metal detectors to aid in finding the cell phone during searches? Provisional Comments: LE located cell; see #78 for new questions
    46. Where is DS II’s unit located within the condo, especially with respect to his neighbor RG’s camera? Verified: Orange County property records http://www.ocpafl.org/ indicate address as 6598 S. Goldenrod unit 98C, photos of DS II’s condo http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/...lwaysWright01/ show that unit C is on the right side, RG lives on the left side unit, and RG’s camera captures his parking area and a portion of the street to the northeast of his side of the unit (provided by AlwaysWright, 12/4)
    47. If Carter Glen (DS II’s condo complex) has cameras or other devices at the north and south entrances and exits to the complex, did one or more capture any images or records of MP’s Hummer arriving and/or leaving on 11/17, along with time of arrival and departure? Provisional Comments: The gates to the complex are closed and require one of the following: (1) Enter a specific code to open gate (Guests given code by Homeowner); (2) Card or Gate Opener to open gate (Homeowner); (3) Use the directory to contact Homeowner so they can buzz you in using phone; (4) Follow a car that has been granted access. (provided by AlwaysWright, 12/5) Carter Glen resident said that cameras at entrance to condos had captured an image of the Hummer leaving—time unknown—without the decals. Always Wright visited the condos and noted a stand for a video camera at the entrances along with signage in the complex that the area is under surveillance. [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7441974&postcount=174"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #14[/ame] (Provided by AlwaysWright, 12/15)
    48. Did Carter Glen cameras or other devices capture any images or records of DS II’s vehicles arriving or leaving on 11/17 and 18, along with time of arrival and departure? Provisional Comments: See #47
    49. Did Carter Glen cameras or other devices, capture any images or records of DS II’s family vehicles arriving or leaving on 11/17? Provisional Comments: See #47
    50. Does DS Sr. have restrictions or physical disabilities that prevent him from being able to drive?
    51. Did DS II spend the night of 11/17, after the LE search, at his condo?
    52. What time did DS II leave his condo for work on Friday, 11/18?
    53. What vehicle was he driving from his condo on 11/18 AM?
    54. Did he make any stops to load work materials, change vehicles, etc. before leaving Orlando area?
    55. What route did he take to reach Titusville?
    56. What time did he arrive at his work destination in Titusville?
    57. Address of work destination in Titusville?
    58. What evidence has LE found at any warehouses, storage facilities, or other properties to which DS II or Sr. has access? Notes: Some properties owned by DS Jr, and Sr. now or in the past include 1982 Rose Blvd Home; 1984 Allied Roofing bORN - Listed as Rose Blvd Address; 2002 Lot & Unit at Sky Lake; 2005 Property off of Church St. no address just legal desc; 2005 Property at Pineway Drive - Sold the same year as aquired; 2007 Another property and unit on Sky Lake ; 2008 Condo in Carter Glen (provided by Angelonline, 12/04, per Orange Co Comptroller Records); http://paarcgis2.ocpafl.org/ObliqueV...92229000000174 property at S. Mission Rd. off 526 belonging to DS Sr. (provided by Cerebellum, 12/7); LE search canal behind house owned by DS Sr. at 6806 Chaucer Ln. (occupied by DS Sr’s sister according to neighbors) on 12/9. Map of parcels owned by DS Sr. http://paarcgis.ocpafl.org/Webmap2/d...02323120597030 (Provided by Coldpizza, 12/9)
    59. In the days or weeks prior to 11/17, did MP express to friends or family members any apprehension about or annoyance with someone she encountered at her workplace or elsewhere? Any evidence of a “secret admirer”?
    60. Does MP have a storage unit, and has this been checked for evidence by LE?
    61. Stills from the neighbor’s video show two different dark SUV vehicles leaving at two different times on 11/17, ie 17:17 and 16:40 (5:17 PM and 4:40 PM). LE has reported that the Hummer leaving on the video at 16:40 belongs to a neighbor on the street, not MP. Is the other departing vehicle a Hummer, and does it belong to MP or to yet another neighbor? Provisional Comments: Hummer leaving at 16:40 appears to be a dark grey color (provided bynotmissing, 12/04) Black SUV leaving at 17:17 has a license plate centered on the back, which is different license plate placement than MP’s Hummer, which is left rear (provided by SmoothOperator, 12/6) Photos of 08 Hummers confirm the plates to be on the left rear. MP’s Hummer is thought to be an 08. (provided by taagean & SmoothOperator 12/6)
    62. Activities, times, and other details, including calls and texts, demeanor, conversation topics, etc., of MP’s day on 11/17, beginning when she arises and ending with 3:18 PM arrival at DS II’s condo. Provisional Comments and Notes: NM and MP had coffee that morning, time unknown (provided by ?); apparently cheerful cell texts between MP and sister LE reveal that MP was going to the salon at 11:30 AM for a Keratin treatment by LE, and that MP was going shoe (?) shopping with her mother Yvonne within the hour before going to the salon. (Provided by SmoothOperator, 12/6)
    63. In the video of the condo search, DS II’s truck is in the garage. Where is DS II's work van?
    64. When did MP and NM meet face to face on 11/17, and when did they talk or text one another on their cells that day, other than the 3:15 text? Provisional Comments: NM and MP met for coffee in AM, time unknown.
    65. When did NM try to contact MP (text or call her cell) after 3:18 PM on 11/17?
    66. If incoming white van as recorded by neighbor’s video, (subsequently parked on the street) is that of a neighbor or visitor to the condos, what did the driver of that van observe relative to MP, DS II, the twins, and MP’s Hummer?
    67. Did MP have any mobile tanning appointments on 11/17, and when? With new or established customers?
    68. Did DS II have regularly scheduled visitation with the twins? Was 11/17 a scheduled visitation day for him to take the twins? If not, what are the details of how and when this visitation was arranged?
    69. Where did MP park the Hummer when she was dropping off the twins at DS II’s?
    70. Was DS II’s garage open, or did MP go to the front door of the condo?
    71. What vehicles were parked inside or in the driveway of DS II’s garage when MP arrived to drop off the twins?
    72. Has LE searched or will they search Titusville areas, and possible route(s) from Orlando to Titusville, and what evidence was found, if any?
    73. What time did MP’s 11 year old son arrive home from school on 11/17? Provisional Comments: MP’s sister LE said that the child usually got off the bus at around 3:30 PM
    74. Did he try calling his mom, and what time(s) did he try calling her? Provisional Comments: MP’s sister LE said that the child usually called his mother when he got off the school bus.
    75. Did anyone attempt to call or text MP between 3:18 and 4:26 on 11/17?
    76. DS II’s neighbor with the cam was not home when MP arrived, and says he saw nothing when he did arrive home. What time did neighbor arrive home?
    77. Other than DS II’s mother and father, who else received subpoenas as of 12/6?
    78. Where, when and how was MP’s cell found? Provisional Comments: On 12/7, LE released news that MP’s cell was found, thrown in the water near Lake Conway from a bridge, although which of two possible bridges is uncertain at this time; Bob Kealing identifies correct bridge as on Nela 12/9 (Provided by ?) News report suggests that cell wasn’t found due to one specific tip http://vidcache.newsoverwireless.com...FL-3417293.mp4 (Contributed by JerseyGirl, 12/13) Photos of both bridges, with Nela Bridge brush appearing more disturbed [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7439956&postcount=34"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #14[/ame] (Provided by AlwaysWright)
    79. On which side of the bridge was the cell found, to help determine direction car was traveling?
    80. What, if any, is the forensic evidence recovered from the cell?
    81. What data, if any, was recovered from the cell?
    82. Did MP attempt to call eleven y o son around 3:30 on, on 11/17?
    83. Have landfills been searched, and evidence found?
    84. Did DS II take the twins to DS Sr.’s house on 11/17, and when did he leave his condo and arrive at the Rose Ave. house? Provisional Comments: MN, attorney for DS II and DS Sr., said that a witness can verify that DS II had arrived at the Rose Ave. house at 4:30 PM. http://www.wesh.com/r/29958175/detail.html (Provided by Analyze This).
    85. Did DS II have a standard routine when he had the twins, and if so, did his actions/movement on 11/17 afternoon vary from that routine?
    86. Will or have the twins been interviewed by LE, and if interviewed, what observations did they offer about what they remember from 11/17?
    87. Did LE search DS II’s condo on evening of 11/18 (Fri). If so, details of search.
    88. Details of where and when cadaver dogs have been used in this case, with evidence obtained.
    89. Was the spare tire cover gone when the Hummer was found by LE?
    90. Does DS II have a current girlfriend?
    91. Is it possible that a cell phone could stay on a significant length of time, even when underwater?
    92. When did MP last gas up the Hummer?
    93. Could car have been gassed up by perp? Paper trail?
    94. Use of odometer reading and/or fuel level and mileage of Hummer to determine how far it was driven after 3:18 PM on 11/17.
    95. Where did MP live, and with whom? Verified: The family, including MP, lives on a few acres in Geneva, FL. Rural and very nice. (contributed by Sparky, 12/11) They live on Guy Court in Seminole County. (Contributed by Fact Finder, 12/14)
    96. Who is the owner of the Chevy Impala with either an open or bent trunk, shown in photos of DS II’s condo (http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/...lwaysWright01/ taken by AlwaysWright on 12/4)? Provisional Comments: Has Mass. Plate. Exmp pictured at http://www.boston.com/news/local/bre...license_p.html (Provided by Cerebellum); plates seem to read 100-ATE (Provided by Misfitdolly).
    97. What kind of keychain/keyfob did MP have? Any special features?
    98. How many sets of keys existed for the Hummer, and did DS II have a set?
    99. Was the Hummer locked when finally located by LE? Does the Hummer have an automatic lock (locking after a time)?
    100. Was the “Waterford” text an auto-correct fail?
    101. What type of decal was the Glow decal on the Hummer rear window—static cling or adhesive?
    102. Alligator behavior with remains. Provisional Comments: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7433462&postcount=108"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 #13[/ame] and [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7433474&postcount=111"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 #13[/ame] (Contributed by Swamp Mama, 12/13) [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7437672&postcount=463"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 #13[/ame] (Contributed by Reality Orlando, 12/14)
    103. Did LE take DS II’s computer and cell, and what evidence was obtained from these? Notes: YS and MN told MSM that DS II had voluntarily surrendered his computers to LE. (No confirmation on the cell.)
    104. Was MP’s tanning equipment in the Hummer when it was found, and was the equipment intact?
    105. Other than MP’s cell and keys, what other personal items were missing when the Hummer was found.
    106. Was MP’s wallet missing, in her handbag, or in the Hummer but separate from the handbag?
    107. Does DS II still work for MASCO Cabinetry, located at 2901 Titan Row, Orlando? Verified: Tony Pipitone confirmed that this is DS II’s employer. [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7438719&postcount=557"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 #13[/ame]
    108. Did DS II make any suspicious purchases prior to 11/17, i.e. a large cooler?
    109. Any eyewitness accounts at Carter Glen condos that DS II had other visitors right before, at, or soon after 3:18 on 11/17?
    110. What has LE discovered about the activities of DS II’s close friends on 11/17?
    111. Is LE viewing/using the unedited PC episode, for clues or insight? Would they consider subpoenaing the PC judge?
    112. Is there a door into DS II’s condo from inside the garage?
    113. What are DS II’s normal work hours and work days?
    114. What are Michelle’s normal work hours and work days, both at the bar, and for other business activities, such as the tanning business and the salon?
    115. Has LE explored the exchanges and relationship between DS II and MP before, during, and in the months after the PC episode was taped, and with what results?
    116. Has LE considered any tie-in between MP’s disappearance and those of other missing women in the Orlando area? Have they rejected any connection, or still hold open the possibility?
    117. Any confirmed eyewitness accounts or electronic evidence of DS Sr. and/or DS II moving/using a boat on or after 11/17? Provisional Comments: Rumor is that DS Sr.’s neighbor caught Sr.’s Hummer (?) with boat attached on video http://buckethead.realradio.fm/playe...l&mid=21627148
    118. Has/will LE search the Bay Lake area, with adjacent small bodies of water and woods? Evidence obtained, if any.
    119. Did MP have one or more tanning clients in the Walden Circle apartments? Provisional Comments: Rumor only/has not been confirmed: website indicates that residents in the area had seen the Hummer with the airtanning decals parked near the spot where the Hummer was found by police 3 or 4 times before 11/17. Suggestion was that MP may have had tanning clients in the apartments. http://marinadedave.com/journal/2011...-michelle.html
    120. If so, how many times had she visited Walden Circle client(s), and over what period of time?
    121. Who, besides MP and the client(s) at Walden Circle, would have known of her visits there?
    122. Would MP’s Hummer fit inside DS II’s garage? Was there room in his garage for the Hummer, considering any items stored there? Provisional Comments: According to poster on a Hummer forum, an H3 fits in a standard garage http://www.hummerforums.com/forum/hu...54/#post240931 (post #8 and #9) (Provided by Cerebellum, 12/17)
    123. Does DS Sr. own a Hummer, and what color? Impounded by LE, and any evidence obtained? Provisional Comments: See #117
    124. If DS Sr. owns a boat, was this impounded by LE, and any evidence obtained?
    125. Does MP have friends, acquaintances, clients, or prospective clients at the Carter Glen condos?
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    question 125

    on question 125, you ask if Sr owes a boat. I did a close up of the house on the wonderful map we have, (thank you BTW) and there were 2 cars in the back of the house, 3 cars, + one truck with a ladder in the front drive way and what appears to be 1 mid size boat and a canoe, if I am seeing correctly in back yard. I see a pool and a good size storage shed out back. I don't know when this map was created but lots of cars, trucks, van? and a boat that I can see.
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    I am courious about Lake Holden too. It is behind the Sacred Heart Traditional Catholic Church off of S Westmoreland Dr. I don't know if you can access the woods on the E side of the church or not. It looks like there is a gate and a wall but I don't know for sure. It is just 6 minutes from Sr home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    Thanks for the detailed timeline. I noticed that there is no mention of when Michelle was supposedly going to meet up with her current bf for dinner and where?
    My opinions only, no facts here:

    I heard about that story myself. I will look again at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey2Me1MoThyme View Post
    I hope you are right. I do wish if LE thought (with very good reason as in the Susan Powell case) that DSjr is guilty of harming MP, that they would move to have the children removed from his care. they can't watch him 24/7. While I personally still don't think they have but suspicion about him (meaning little to know evidence) I can plainly see why he would be a suspect given his past. I just don't think they have removed blinderss to take a laarger view of other possibilities.
    I don't think LE -- or anyone -- can take the kids away because they suspect him ..... He's not been charged.

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    I don't remember who, and I'm sorry, but someone posted pictures of DSjr's I believe when the area of condos were under construction and across the street parked in a vacant lot was a hummer or 2 hummers? Anyone remember what I'm talking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasCharm View Post
    I don't think LE -- or anyone -- can take the kids away because they suspect him ..... He's not been charged.
    It happened to Josh Powell
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey2Me1MoThyme View Post
    It happened to Josh Powell
    Josh kept custody of those boys for a very long time. It was not until they found child porn in that house, in his father's computer, that the kids were moved out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by katydid23 View Post
    Josh kept custody of those boys for a very long time. It was not until they found child porn in that house, in his father's computer, that the kids were moved out.
    That is true, so I guess we have to assume that LE has little to nothing on Dsjr.
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    Here's what I personally have seen and/or read in these 15+ threads regarding HUMMERS and who had one..

    - of course as we know Michelle's black Hummer h3 that is supposedly in Dale Jr.'s name.

    - the neighbor's black/or dark colored Hummer that we very early in became aware of as well as saw on surveillance video it heading east on Goldenrod at 4:40pm on 11/17.

    - some were of the opinion the other dark SUV seen on same surveillance at 5:17pm heading east on Goldenrod was also possibly a Hummer (* noted for me personally I was able to find more than sufficient evidence that THIS VEHICLE WAS NOT A HUMMER AT ALL**)

    - I believe it was TexasLil(but plz forgive me if I'm mistaken) found and posted the best, clearest, and most detailed assessor photos of Dale Jr.'s condo and the condos immediately surrounding Dale's..(there were two photos.. One shot from. The east and one shot from the west).. It was in these extremely clear photos that a neighbor's black Hummer was immediately spotted and it was parked in the driveway directly across the street from Dale(I even photoshopped in zoom, labeled the condo/Hummer with direct arrows showing it was directly across the street from Dale's).. All of these photos located a couple threads back(I'll edit in a couple of the pics here for reference)

    - also within those same assessor's photos a member(s) spotted 2 other HUMMERS besides the black Hummer I posted labeled with arrows directly across the street from Dale's.. "if" this 2 others do in fact exist that would total 3 HUMMERS within less than a one block radius of Dale's condo..(** I must note that I personally have only counted there being the 1 black Hummer in the photos.. Others may want to study a closer view of the 2 photos to determine for certain.. But IMO it's just the one black Hummer parked directly across the street from Dale's condo.)

    - the radio broadcast back from early on in the initial lake searches there is mention that Dale Sr also had a Hummer and that his Hummer was seen the day after Michelle disappeared, 11/18 pulling his boat in the area of one of the initial lakes searched..

    - and then last but not least was the initial post made by Ironhorse on the day of the SWAT team raid on Dale Sr's house.. Before it was ever even known that it was Sr.'s house that was being searched, even before we knew it was a house on Rose Blvd.. Extremely early on when news was first catching wind there had been a SW executed in Michelle's case, Ironhorse stated that in the few second news blurb about there having been a raid(again this is when it was not known it was Sr's home).. Ironhorse said in the news clip shown that there was a dark colored Hummer parked in the driveway of the home where they were reporting the news blurb from..
    (** fwiw and just wanted to make mention of it because it certainly is Another mighty coincidence)

    But all in all these are the mentions and details surrounding discussions of HUMMERS that I personally have read or taken part in throughout Michelle's 15+ threads.. There could even be others but these are the one's that I know of first hand..


    ETA: Below is one of the assessor pics that I labeled and circled the black Hummer:

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