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    six degrees of seperation...?

    I found this entry, and have no idea who theauthor is, or what book they are writing..."More realistic is that with the possibility of all the media attention, etc., that Sandusky's trial ends in a mistrial. Commonwealth v. Haefner, a trial also involving a Penn Stater and alleged pedophile, is the hornbook law in PA regarding double jeopardy and a mistrial. Defining a mistrial as a legitimate end to a prosecution would also allow Sandusky to sue everyone, and would prevent future prosecutions of his past alleged molestation incidents. Commonwealth v. Haefner effectively ended a second case that was pending against Richard Haefner in 1976, leading to the Lancaster County DA's office "nolle prossing" the charges, or refusing to prosecute. There was a similar media circus around Commonwealth v. Haefner, but little has survived because the case was sealed and expunged in 1979. I have many of the original documents including the transcript and have studied the case intensively for my book."
    Posted on Jerry Sandusky has hired a private investigator to study sex-abuse claims, his attorney says on November 29, 2011, 9:35AM
    http://connect.mlive.com/user/social...413/index.html

    “Have you seen the papers?” Richard Haefner asked breathlessly, emerging from the blustery darkness short of breath. (Although the Centre Daily Times was an evening paper then, the story didn’t make the late edition, and first appeared on Nov. 29th.) When Wright said no, Haefner told him that Betsy Aardsma, a young girl he knew, had been killed in Pattee Library."
    http://www.statecollegemagazine.com/...ash=fe3b6029e7
    Last edited by Waupalani St.; 01-08-2012 at 02:45 PM. Reason: Sandusky and Haefner were at PSU during the same time...


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCat View Post
    I'm not surprised to learn that Sandusky's autobiography played a major part in helping police find several of his victims. The book is very bizarre. I'm not sure what psychological need compelled him to publish such a potentially incriminating book. I'm beginning to believe there's a possibility that Sandusky's not consciously aware of his crimes.
    Sandusky was very conscious of his crimes. He had pictures of his victims in the book, part of his control and power tactics over them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Waupalani St. View Post
    More realistic is that with the possibility of all the media attention, etc., that Sandusky's trial ends in a mistrial. Commonwealth v. Haefner, a trial also involving a Penn Stater and alleged pedophile, is the hornbook law in PA regarding double jeopardy and a mistrial. Defining a mistrial as a legitimate end to a prosecution would also allow Sandusky to sue everyone, and would prevent future prosecutions of his past alleged molestation incidents. Commonwealth v. Haefner effectively ended a second case that was pending against Richard Haefner in 1976, leading to the Lancaster County DA's office "nolle prossing" the charges, or refusing to prosecute. There was a similar media circus around Commonwealth v. Haefner, but little has survived because the case was sealed and expunged in 1979. I have many of the original documents including the transcript and have studied the case intensively for my book.

    Posted on Jerry Sandusky has hired a private investigator to study sex-abuse claims, his attorney says on November 29, 2011, 9:35AM
    http://connect.mlive.com/user/social...413/index.html
    Well, this case is already going to trial-- and with a lot of victims and a grand jury report that has inflamed the public AT LARGE (not just their cozy corner of the world). I don't think sealing everything up is an option at this point, right? Sandusky is finally the one who's in the the screwing. IMO

    A lot of interesting comments over there, though. Read around quite a bit!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiche View Post
    Or, big big Check Writing egos. Penn State loves its alumni...
    So right............and THEY also have big unchecked egos which is why Sandusky was able to continue his behavior. IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiche View Post
    Well, this case is already going to trial-- and with a lot of victims and a grand jury report that has inflamed the public AT LARGE (not just their cozy corner of the world). I don't think sealing everything up is an option at this point, right? Sandusky is finally the one who's in the the screwing. IMO

    A lot of interesting comments over there, though. Read around quite a bit!
    Great heads up on those links!


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    Why is this distancing necessary? Civil suits, I'd guess...

    Penn State president never read the news reports about Sandusky investigation

    Penn State President Rodney Erickson denied knowing anything about an investigation into Jerry Sandusky before the grand jury presentment was released in November and charges were filed against Sandusky and two top university officials.

    and

    “It seemed you were caught off guard by something when there was months and months of warning,” a reporter asked him.

    “There were, I would think nearly all individuals at the university, including me, were not aware of any this until we read it in the grand jury presentment, so how would we have known?”

    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...never_rea.html


    For an institution of higher learning, there's a lot of stupidity coming from their leadership. Why can't they see that they're beat, and STHU? Simply amazing to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiche View Post
    Why is this distancing necessary? Civil suits, I'd guess...

    Penn State president never read the news reports about Sandusky investigation

    Penn State President Rodney Erickson denied knowing anything about an investigation into Jerry Sandusky before the grand jury presentment was released in November and charges were filed against Sandusky and two top university officials.

    and

    “It seemed you were caught off guard by something when there was months and months of warning,” a reporter asked him.

    “There were, I would think nearly all individuals at the university, including me, were not aware of any this until we read it in the grand jury presentment, so how would we have known?”

    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...never_rea.html


    For an institution of higher learning, there's a lot of stupidity coming from their leadership. Why can't they see that they're beat, and STHU? Simply amazing to me.

    Plausible deniability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiche View Post
    Why is this distancing necessary? Civil suits, I'd guess...

    Penn State president never read the news reports about Sandusky investigation

    Penn State President Rodney Erickson denied knowing anything about an investigation into Jerry Sandusky before the grand jury presentment was released in November and charges were filed against Sandusky and two top university officials.

    and

    “It seemed you were caught off guard by something when there was months and months of warning,” a reporter asked him.

    “There were, I would think nearly all individuals at the university, including me, were not aware of any this until we read it in the grand jury presentment, so how would we have known?”

    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...never_rea.html


    For an institution of higher learning, there's a lot of stupidity coming from their leadership. Why can't they see that they're beat, and STHU? Simply amazing to me.
    Yes, we can feel the stupid emanating from that. Total head-in-the-sand behavior and magical thinking. If they don't read it, then it doesn't exist. Denial and more Denial. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do nothing ~ Edmund Burke
    Why shouldn't truth be stranger than fiction? Fiction, after all, has to make sense. ~ Mark Twain


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    Succinct commentary highlights Deadspin's synopsis of the "cops found victims via Sandusky bio" story; first and last paragraphs:

    In Greek mythology, many apparent protagonists are later forced to face the wrath of the gods for showing excessive pride, arrogance or just losing touch with reality in general. Welcome back to State College, where hubris isn't so much a trait as it is a way of life.
    ---
    Around the same time investigators were contacting Victim 6's mother, they also decided to check in on some rumors circulating about assistant coach Mike McQueary having witnessed something in the Penn State showers. The rest, as they say, is The Jerry Sandusky Story.
    Jerry Sandusky’s Autobiography Helped Police Track Down Additional Victims


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    Arrow article re LE using JerSan's book

    JerSan prob'ly thought he was not writing a tell-all book,
    but looks like it's gonna help nail him.

    http://deadspin.com/5874052/

    LE used book to help find other victims.
    Copyright date is 2000, so it is not helpful in locating later victims, unfortunately.

    to wfgodot: THANKS for linking this.

    Amazon prices for this book, new and used are still -----> up there.
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    Arrow Rodney Erickson's comments at presser

    Thanks again, wfgodot, for your links to deadspin & other sites.
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    After the total crap that has been the PSU response, I'd like to see the institution devolve back to operating under its original name (in 1855, and through 1862): Farmers High School. At this point, that name has much more class.


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    Thanks again. wfgodot, for your informative links, in your post just above.

    PennSt Pres Rodney 'Transparency' Erickson.

    Didn't he or one of his sub-ord's email - We're Taking Charge of the Dialogue.


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    Jay Sandusky did an interview in the past day or so and it was on TV (GMA I think) where he said Joe Paterno can't wait to tell his side of the story.

    Jay also went on to say that at 85 his dad is fighting cancer and that is taking all his energy and leaves little time for him to contemplate anything else going on right now.

    IMO if Joe Paterno is seriously ill I think this is the beginning of repairing his image because they know he will NOT be available to testify in the Sandusky trial.


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