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    TX - Six family members slain in Christmas murder-suicide, Grapevine, 25 Dec 2011

    Breaking news: 7 dead in Grapevine apartment (dallasnews.com)
    25 December 2011 02:57 PM
    Grapevine police found seven people dead Christmas Day in an apartment near State Highways 121 and 360.
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    Police believe that all the victims had been shot and that the gunman was among the dead.

    Police said the victims include four women and three men. Media reports that indicated children were among the victims appeared to be incorrect.

    Grapevine police Sgt. Robert Eberling said the victims had not been identified. There had been no previous police calls to the apartment.
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    "We checked the surrounding apartments; we only found one occupied, and that person didn't hear anything," Eberling said.

    The victims were found in a living room and adjoining kitchen of the first-floor apartment at the Lincoln Vineyards Apartment Homes, a well-maintained 220-unit complex.
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    more at link above

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    Unhappy

    That's really horrible especially on Christmas.




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    Such sad news. I live very near the apartment complex where the shooting occurred. From what I've heard in the local news media, the victims ranged in age from late teens to late 60s and are believed to be related. The 911 call was reported to have been made around 11:30 this morning, but the person making that call never spoke to the dispatcher. It is being reported that the shooter killed himself after fatally shooting the other six the apartment. Police are currently still on scene trying to gather information. The sergeant in scene has told reporters he has never seen anything this horrible in his 12 years with the Grapevine Police.

    This is so terrible. My thoughts and prayers are with the loved ones of the victims.
    "People talk about “closure,” but there’s no such thing as closure. You absorb life, including its blows, and move on. If you’re lucky or work hard, adversity makes you better, stronger, deeper. You’ll never not mourn, because you’re human and that’s the way we’re built. But there are moments when something happens—you take a turn, or a new understanding happens. There are times when you realize a certain point in the arc of mourning has been reached. There are times when justice happens." -- Peggy Noonan

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    GRAPEVINE, Texas—Seven people believed to be related had opened their Christmas gifts and started cleaning up the wrapping paper when they were shot to death in a Dallas-area apartment, police said Sunday.
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    Four women and three men, aged 18 to 60, were found in an adjoining kitchen and living room area when police entered the apartment shortly after 11:30 a.m., said Grapevine Police Sgt. Robert Eberling.

    Two handguns were found near the bodies in the apartment that was decorated for Christmas with a tree, he added.
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    more at AP link below:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...073301232.html

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    Curious what led to this apparent murder-suicide. Hopefully LE can identify the shooter and possibly what the motive was. What a tragedy, especially today.

    Rest in Peace
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    I hope we hear more info soon. These cases make me sick! Who wipes out their family on Christmas day? What is wrong with people????

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    Fact-wise nothing new here, but this Daily Mail piece does have several pictures of LE and the apartment complex:

    Horror as family of seven shot dead on Christmas
    morning as they were opening their presents

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    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ing/52223128/1

    Four women and three men, aged 18 to 60, were found in an adjoining kitchen and living room area when police entered the apartment around midday, said Police Sgt. Robert Eberling. Two handguns were found near the bodies in the apartment that was decorated for the holiday with a tree, he added.
    JMO

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    Local news media raw video of GVPD Sgt. Robert Eberling:
    http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/Raw-v...136213143.html

    I can't find an article on this yet, but the CBS affiliate in DFW reported on tonight's 10pm newscast that all of the victims have been identified. Authorities are apparently waiting for the Tarrant County medical examiner's office to complete the examinations of the victims before releasing their names. The crime scene is still active, and police are searching the victims' cars for clues as to a possible motive. I saw footage of a hearse in the background of the live coverage tonight. This is so shocking.
    "People talk about “closure,” but there’s no such thing as closure. You absorb life, including its blows, and move on. If you’re lucky or work hard, adversity makes you better, stronger, deeper. You’ll never not mourn, because you’re human and that’s the way we’re built. But there are moments when something happens—you take a turn, or a new understanding happens. There are times when you realize a certain point in the arc of mourning has been reached. There are times when justice happens." -- Peggy Noonan

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    Usually family annihilators who kill all their family members are either father or adolescent son. Most likely the killer is a male and likely had problems.

    http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/c...ho_kill/3.html

    This case reminds me of Ronald Gene Simmons. He killed 14 of his family members around Christmas and killed 2 at his former work place. Simmons is the deadliest family annihilator and one of the deadliest mass murderer in America.

    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Gene_Simmons[/ame]

    Not too long after Simmons, there was another family annihilator in Algona, Iowa, where 6 family members of the Dreesmans were killed by Robert Dreesman.

    http://www.chron.com/CDA/archives/ar...lt-neglec.html
    http://www.nytimes.com/1987/12/31/us...ted=all&src=pm
    http://news.google.com/newspapers?ni...g=5766,4356484

    Not a family annihilator, but worth noting there was David Burke who caused the crash of Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771. He shot his former supervisor and two pilots before committing suicide. 43 people died in the airplane crash on December 7, 1987. It is one of the deadliest mass murder in American history.

    Deadliest American Mass Murder In Single Day
    1.) September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attacks-3,000
    2.) Oklahoma City Bombing-169
    3.) Happyland Club Fire on March 25, 1990-87
    4.) Bath School Bombing on May 18, 1927-45
    5.) Jack Gilbert Graham, Bombed United Airlines Flight 629 on November 1, 1955-44
    5.) Thomas G. Doty, Bombed Continental Airlines Flight 11 on May 22, 1962-44
    5.) Francisco Paula Gonzales, Murder/Suicide on board Pacific Air Lines Flight 773 on May 7, 1964-44
    6.) David Burke, Killed his former supervisor and two pilots on board Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771 on December 7, 1987-43
    7.) Julian Frank, Bombed National Airlines Flight 2511 on January 6, 1960-33
    8.) Seung-Hui Cho, Virginia Tech Massacre on April 16, 2007-32
    9.) Humberto de la Torre, Set fire to Dorothy Mae Apartment Hotel in Los Angeles on September 4, 1982-25
    10.) George Hennard, Killeen Massacre, October 16, 1991-23

    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PSA_Flight_1771"]Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
    http://www.airdisaster.com/special/special-pa1771.shtml

    December 1987 was a deadly month for mass murder.
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    Usually they are men, but recently there have been a few cases where women did it.
    Just my opinion

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    Suspect in Grapevine Killings Dressed in Santa Suit
    http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/12...-killings.html

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    http://www.wfaa.com/news/crime/Chris...136208163.html

    Grapevine police spokesman Sgt. Robert Eberling said the shooter showed up in the Santa outfit shortly before gunfire erupted and was a member of the family.


    http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/1...7BP0C220111226

    Grapevine police Lieutenant Todd Dearing said the victims' ages were 15, 19, 22, 55, 56, 58 and 59. The victims in their 50s were two couples, Dearing said.

    The shooter was one of the older men, he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mimi56 View Post
    Suspect in Grapevine Killings Dressed in Santa Suit
    http://www.star-telegram.com/2011/12...-killings.html
    Wow. If true, that would put it on the same "Santa suit-wearing" level as Bruce Jeffrey Pardo and the Covina massacre (Wiki) in 2008.

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    OMG. He wore a Santa suit? I wonder if he did that to conceal his true identity, so that he could get inside the home. Maybe he knew they would deny him entry if they knew who he was. The description of the scene is so sad. Bodies slumped beside their open presents.
    “Every day that they don’t find something is good for me.“ Billie Dunn

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