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    Lightbulb Photos of dead aim to bring new life to cold cases

    Photos of dead aim to bring new life to cold cases
    By DINESH RAMDE Associated Press The Associated Press
    Tuesday, January 3, 2012 5:33 AM EST


    MILWAUKEE (AP) The corpses' faces are mostly bloated, their skin pale and discolored. One man's lips are stiffened into a grim frown and he stares with half-open eyes. Another man appears to be sleeping, his color natural enough that he almost looks alive.

    Forensic investigator Michael Simley knows some people will find the photographs unsettling, but he said he decided to post them online for an important reason: the bodies are unidentified. All were found in Wisconsin's most populous area, Milwaukee County, and have been without names for years decades, in some cases and Simley said he's desperate to find answers.

    "We're not doing these people justice to let them go unidentified. These are family members, friends, people who are missed," Simley said. "Everyone deserves to be recognized as who they were in life. Being buried as a Jane or John Doe doesn't sit well with me."

    Investigators nationwide use a variety of tools when asking for the public's help identifying corpses. Many release sketches or 3-D clay models, along with photos of tattoos, clothing or jewelry of the deceased. But a handful are now taking the more extreme step of releasing photographs of faces.

    The practice has helped Las Vegas' coroner identify dozens of bodies. Other medical examiners seem hesitant to embrace it but are generally supportive of their colleagues' intentions

    http://www.centurylink.net/news/read...org%3E&ps=1011
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    Here is the website for Milwaukee County:

    http://county.milwaukee.gov/MedicalE...n-Milwauk1.htm

    and here is one for Las Vegas Nevada that was mentioned:

    http://www.clarkcountynv.gov/depts/c...s/default.aspx
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    Yes! A very good step forward in identification methods-- less expensive and far reaching. I think this is wonderful (though disturbing), it's an accurate way to get the job done.

    I hope many, many families are able to finally claim their lost and give them the respectful treatment they deserve.

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    I'm surprised at the number of fetuses they have found.

    I tried to look at them as if I were looking for a missing relative. It would be pretty tough. But if desperate enough it would be doable. Certainly no harder than actually viewing the relative in that condition in a mortuary.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    Ive seen some sketches and clay heads that are not very well done... and a few that were creepy as all get out.... Usually they dont put up the really bad images anyway......Plus alot ( not all by any means) are in a type of lifestyle that the families know can be bad or dangerous.... I am not saying that will make it better to veiw a loved ones face but it may make it slightly better to handle.
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    This is a wonderful idea! If it brings home even one person, it will be worth it.

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    I think this is a great idea but I think it will be pretty hard to identify some of these people because of the change in their facial features. Especially the babies because so many babies look alike. I do hope it helps though!!

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    Must say it's about time this practice started becoming more widespread, as we saw in Las Vegas it's going to bring home a lot of people.

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    An Illinois county has taken the controversial step of posting photographs of unclaimed bodies online in the hope that it will help lead to identification and closure for the families of the deceased.
    The relaunched website, which covers deaths in Cook County, Illinois launched on Wednesday and currently features seven photos of three unclaimed bodies, two that have been at the morgue since 2011 and one since 2010.
    Cook County Medical Examiner Dr. Steve Cina, who is behind the new site, admits the images may be too graphic for many but believes that the ends justify the means.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...oved-ones.html

    http://www.cookcountyil.gov/portal/s...ed_persons/735

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    I was just looking through the site for Cook County, and I was really surprised to see that they have a body of an asian woman who had a hip replacement. They have the brand-name of the replacement and 4 separate identification numbers. Aren't the numbers stored in some type of database or something? (Or, is that just a tv/movie thing?)

    I just found it strange they would have the numbers and not be able to identify her through that.


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    "The only way to find out for sure if your hip replacement is being recalled is to speak with your orthopedic surgeon"

    http://www.depuyasrhiplawsuit.com/faqs/am-i-affected/

    This is talking about a lawsuit for living people, but it does suggest to me that the surgeons keep records of the serial numbers, and can cross reference them with the manufacturers.

    Problem is, there are so many made that even if you gave the number to the manufacturer, they probably wouldn't be able to trace exactly which doctor/hospital the device was supplied to. There are about 150,000 ops carried out in the US each year, I think.*

    I'd have thought the manufacturers could pin down at least a likely time period when the replacement surgery might have taken place, using the serial number though. That would help a little.
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    If Facebook is now using facial recognition software to identify photographs of people on their site, could law enforcement also start using it for a national database of photographs of missing persons and for photographs of unidentified dead people? Of course it wouldn't work on those who are already decomposed or on the facial structures of skulls, at least that I know of.

    I suppose they could experiment on known dead people and their photographs to see if it's even practical.


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    Photos of dead aim to bring new life to cold cases
    By DINESH RAMDE Associated Press The Associated Press
    Tuesday, January 3, 2012 5:33 AM EST


    MILWAUKEE (AP) The corpses' faces are mostly bloated, their skin pale and discolored. One man's lips are stiffened into a grim frown and he stares with half-open eyes. Another man appears to be sleeping, his color natural enough that he almost looks alive.

    Forensic investigator Michael Simley knows some people will find the photographs unsettling, but he said he decided to post them online for an important reason: the bodies are unidentified. All were found in Wisconsin's most populous area, Milwaukee County, and have been without names for years decades, in some cases and Simley said he's desperate to find answers.

    "We're not doing these people justice to let them go unidentified. These are family members, friends, people who are missed," Simley said. "Everyone deserves to be recognized as who they were in life. Being buried as a Jane or John Doe doesn't sit well with me."

    Investigators nationwide use a variety of tools when asking for the public's help identifying corpses. Many release sketches or 3-D clay models, along with photos of tattoos, clothing or jewelry of the deceased. But a handful are now taking the more extreme step of releasing photographs of faces.

    The practice has helped Las Vegas' coroner identify dozens of bodies. Other medical examiners seem hesitant to embrace it but are generally supportive of their colleagues' intentions

    http://www.centurylink.net/news/read...org%3E&ps=1011

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    I think if the media and society is interested in enough about crime intrigue to 'breathe new life' into serial killers such as Jack the Ripper and Charles Manson by making movies about them, then certainly victims' families deserve to voice their demands for the corpses of their loved ones to be circulated so that these images will add to the discussion about 'crime intrigue.'

    If we take Jack the Ripper and make alternative theories such as "Perhaps he wanted to make a message about the feminine mystique or women wearing brooches when he killed prostitutes in London's East End," then we can see how public scrutiny of the condition of the victims' bodies will add to dialogue about 'criminality mentality.'

    If we take Charles Manson and make alternative theories such as, "Manson wanted to silence those he deemed unworthy to American society and so he would fantasize about stabbing people in the neck so as to end their cries," then we can see how public scrutiny of the condition of the victims' bodies will add to dialogue about 'criminal personalities.'








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