Page 5 of 68 FirstFirst 12345678910111213141555 ... LastLast
Results 101 to 125 of 1680

Thread: *new trial ordered* Amanda Knox New Motivation Report RE: Meredith Kercher Murder #1

  1. #101
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,679
    Quote Originally Posted by Monzoo View Post
    I'm glad to see the discussion back.

    Next up, presumably, is the defense and or prosecution appeal motions. Due by the end of the month.

    Anyone want to make a guess as to whether:

    1. The defense (Amanda's) will appeal the one standing conviction, calunnia.

    2. The prosecution will appeal

    3. The outcome at the end of any appeals

    How about the other related cases? Aren't there a pile of charges against AK, her family, the Sollecito family and various lawyers pending?
    I as well am glad to see this discussion back up and out of the basement thus would like to thank the moderators.

    I believe a wide berth was given to the defense with respect to the calunnia conviction and the defense will appeal.

    As for the prosecution appealing I would have to ask based on what? I am certain they will try to find areas but am uncertain after reading the MR that there truly are any areas.

    I believe the calunnia conviction will be overturned.

  2. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Allusonz For This Useful Post:


  3. #102
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,679
    We must also remember that there are still court cases pending against her parents etc.

    "Carlo Dalla Vedova, one of Knox's lawyers, said she "loves Italy and likes Perugia" and that she would like to return to the country "as a tourist, but if necessary she will return to testify in the trials against her parents," Italian wire service Ansa reported.
    Dalla Vedova told ABC News, "I hope they will be acquitted.They certainly didn't make any defamatory remarks when they repeated Amanda's statement to the press."

    http://news.yahoo.com/amanda-knox-lo...-abc-news.html

  4. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Allusonz For This Useful Post:


  5. #103
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,679
    More on the parents which I believe takes place at the end of March.

    "Dalla Vedova told ABC News,
    “I hope they will be acquitted. They certainly didn’t make any defamatory remarks when they repeated Amanda’s statement to the press.”

    http://today.seattletimes.com/2012/0...turn-to-italy/

  6. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Allusonz For This Useful Post:


  7. #104
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,679
    I as well must ask if anyone has seen any updates on Frank's case?

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to Allusonz For This Useful Post:

    SMK

  9. #105
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    6,995
    Quote Originally Posted by Allusonz View Post
    I as well must ask if anyone has seen any updates on Frank's case?
    I have not; I would be interested in hearing any updates, though. Sfarzo has not posted anything about it.

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to SMK For This Useful Post:


  11. #106
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    6,995

    On Guede, from Nina Burleigh's book:


  12. The Following User Says Thank You to SMK For This Useful Post:


  13. #107
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    6,995
    Quote Originally Posted by Allusonz View Post
    I as well must ask if anyone has seen any updates on Frank's case?
    Big petition to sign for Sfarzo on IIP now.


  14. The Following User Says Thank You to SMK For This Useful Post:


  15. #108
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,679
    Quote Originally Posted by SMK View Post
    Big petition to sign for Sfarzo on IIP now.


    OMG I simply do not know where to start with this.

    So how about this bill for the powerpoint presentation

    "The bill has arrived (one of many)

    For an animated sketch ordered by Mignini and Comodi, of absolutely no use, of maximum value 15,000 Euros, the tribunal has had to pay 182,784 Euros!

    The two geniuses of law had sent the bill to Amanda and Raffaele!

    What’s to laugh at, why not? Which prisoner, having nothing and millions in debt to their lawyers, doesn’t have 182,000 Euros in their cell?

    Who do you think should pay the bill of 182,000 Euros spent for a video-game with which Mignini and Comodi had fun for all of 20 minutes?"

  16. The Following User Says Thank You to Allusonz For This Useful Post:

    SMK

  17. #109
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,679
    Quote Originally Posted by SMK View Post
    Big petition to sign for Sfarzo on IIP now.
    I had thought that Malkmus quite some time ago had stated that there was a movie in the works from the perspective of a journalist.

    I could be mistaken but don't believe that I am.

    I will state once more for the record that I am of the opinion that this could not be presented in a 2 hour movie.

    A documentary/mini series I believe would do greater justice to this case.

  18. The Following User Says Thank You to Allusonz For This Useful Post:

    SMK

  19. #110
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    1,265
    Quote Originally Posted by Allusonz View Post
    I had thought that Malkmus quite some time ago had stated that there was a movie in the works from the perspective of a journalist.

    I could be mistaken but don't believe that I am.

    I will state once more for the record that I am of the opinion that this could not be presented in a 2 hour movie.

    A documentary/mini series I believe would do greater justice to this case.
    Here you go:

    director Michael Winterbottom is moving ahead with his own version of the story, and he's got significantly greater starpower behind him; according to The Guardian, Colin Firth is interested in starring in the film.

    No, he won't be playing anyone involved with the murder, but a journalist covering the case, which was the subject of extraordinary media focus in Italy (Wikipedia has a good rundown of the case if you're not familiar). Winterbottom doesn't seem all that interested in the specifics of the trial itself-- "I have no view on whether they did it, the film will not be about that. There is unlikely to be a character playing Knox,"-- but rather the journalists who may or may not have influenced the trial's outcome with their constant speculation about the facts. "The taking sides over the case was extreme here," he said. "There was no explanation that covered everything and the journalists were drawn in in a way you would not expect."
    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Micha...vie-21035.html

    Don't know if it's still happening though.

  20. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Malkmus For This Useful Post:


  21. #111
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,679
    Quote Originally Posted by Malkmus View Post
    Here you go:



    http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Micha...vie-21035.html

    Don't know if it's still happening though.
    Thanks Malkmus!!! I will have to make sure I receive alerts with respect to this.

  22. The Following User Says Thank You to Allusonz For This Useful Post:

    SMK

  23. #112
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,679
    I finally had the opportunity to read this book and was actually impressed specifically with certain aspects.

    She was able to give perspectives in many areas which had not been discussed much if at all till lately

  24. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Allusonz For This Useful Post:


  25. #113
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    -Metro NYC
    Posts
    3,757
    Quote Originally Posted by Allusonz View Post
    I finally had the opportunity to read this book and was actually impressed specifically with certain aspects.

    She was able to give perspectives in many areas which had not been discussed much if at all till lately
    Curious about any areas that haven't been discussed much.
    Speaking of mysteries - billions of people past/present, how on earth did I get be on earth and self-aware?

    Rule-of-Three (click to visit blog)

    Red Flags When Spouse Goes Missing (click to visit blog)

  26. The Following User Says Thank You to OldSteve For This Useful Post:

    SMK

  27. #114
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    1,265
    Frank has a rather eye-opening post up:

    Mignini Was There And The Interrogation Was Video Recorded


    http://perugiashock.com/2012/01/31/p...-in/#more-1497

  28. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Malkmus For This Useful Post:


  29. #115
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    6,995
    Anyone know if the prosecutors have filed their appeal yet? Heard talk on PMF that it was in the offing. In any case , they have another 13 days...

  30. #116
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Posts
    6,995

    Breaking news

    Knox filed appeal on slander charges:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/amanda-knox...1#.TzBgKFyuaNg

  31. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to SMK For This Useful Post:


  32. #117
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Wilmington, NC
    Posts
    600

    Dr. Giobbi heard her scream

    Quote Originally Posted by Malkmus View Post
    Frank has a rather eye-opening post up:



    http://perugiashock.com/2012/01/31/p...-in/#more-1497
    One thing that has always bothered me was Frank's description of Dr. Giobbi's testimony, back in the fall of 2009. Giobbi testified he heard Amanda scream. It is difficult to see why she would scream if the interrogation were as placid as ILE claims that it was?

  33. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Chris_Halkides For This Useful Post:


  34. #118
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Wilmington, NC
    Posts
    600

    Stefanoni and the TMB test for blood

    Elsewhere a commenter wrote, “A failure of TMB on a positive luminal hit is not considered to establish a lack of blood but is rather considered a failure of the TMB test which is several factors less sensitive than luminal.” Let’s see what the Hellmann report has to say:

    “Professor Tagliabracci, specified, without being refuted (hearing of July 18 2009, p. 174), that the tetramethylbenzedine (TMB) test is very sensitive, so much as to give a positive result even with only five red blood cells present. Dr. Stefanoni herself, moreover, clarified (preliminary hearing of October 4 2008) that, while a positive test result could be deceptive due to reactivity of the chemical [evidenziatore] with other substances, a negative result gives certainty that no blood is present.”

    [Impronte evidenziate dal luminol con profilo biologico utile, pp. 100-106; translated by roteoctober]
    This passage indicates that a negative TMB result carries more weight than a positive result, but it also means that Stefanoni’s failure to provide this information to the defense is even more difficult to justify.

  35. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Chris_Halkides For This Useful Post:


  36. #119
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    Wilmington, NC
    Posts
    600

    luminol and old blood

    I seem to recall a claim made in these threads that old blood was more reactive in the luminol reaction than new blood. http://www.iapsonline.com/sites/defa...loodstains.pdf This paper from some years ago, disputes such a claim:
    "Chemiluminescence in the visualization of forensic bloodstains"
    L.T. Lytle, D.G. Hedgecock, J. Forensic Sci. 23 (1978) 550–562.

  37. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Chris_Halkides For This Useful Post:


  38. #120
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,679
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides View Post
    One thing that has always bothered me was Frank's description of Dr. Giobbi's testimony, back in the fall of 2009. Giobbi testified he heard Amanda scream. It is difficult to see why she would scream if the interrogation were as placid as ILE claims that it was?
    This is one thing I have as well always questioned. If they were that distance from the interrogation room how they he of heard her scream? He could not of.

    The other explanation could be that he was very close by which we know from the CNN interviews he was with Mignini during this time.

    The one that would make the most sense is if they were watching the interrogation thus it was taped. How else would Mignini know the first statement meant nothing?

  39. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Allusonz For This Useful Post:


  40. #121
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,679
    Quote Originally Posted by OldSteve View Post
    Curious about any areas that haven't been discussed much.
    A short list.

    The Masonic connection.

    Rudy Guede's previous life specifically I never realized that his biological father is actually quite successful. (I am not mixing up his bio father and the man that took him in)

    The MSM truly ignored both RG and RS. I did read some articles out of Italy but it was not stuff I for the most part could not comment on due to the limits put on the media there and how inaccurate the reporting was.

  41. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Allusonz For This Useful Post:


  42. #122
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Posts
    4,679
    Quote Originally Posted by SMK View Post
    Knox filed appeal on slander charges:

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/amanda-knox...1#.TzBgKFyuaNg
    Thanks for this. It has truly been one very busy week for me.

    They still have so many other charges that they are dealing with. AK and the charges brought by the police. The parents and their upcomming trial.

    Last but not least the Supreme Court appeal.

    We know how slow the Italian process is.

  43. The Following User Says Thank You to Allusonz For This Useful Post:

    SMK

  44. #123
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Posts
    1,265
    Quote Originally Posted by Chris_Halkides View Post
    One thing that has always bothered me was Frank's description of Dr. Giobbi's testimony, back in the fall of 2009. Giobbi testified he heard Amanda scream. It is difficult to see why she would scream if the interrogation were as placid as ILE claims that it was?
    TBH, Chris, this has never made much of an impression on me because if you were to look at the screaming from a PG point of view one would assert that it was part of the show she put on when describing how afraid she was of Patrick. I think her 5:45 statement has a footnote about her hitting her head and sobbing. But, I am VERY interested in reading all of Giobbi's testimony as it seems now there is direct proof that Mignini lied about not being at the station until the second statement. I wonder what else his testimony reveals...

  45. #124
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    -Metro NYC
    Posts
    3,757
    "Prosecutors seek to reinstate Knox conviction"

    http://news.yahoo.com/prosecutors-se...135006375.html

    OMG! Is there no end to the nightmare?!
    Speaking of mysteries - billions of people past/present, how on earth did I get be on earth and self-aware?

    Rule-of-Three (click to visit blog)

    Red Flags When Spouse Goes Missing (click to visit blog)

  46. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to OldSteve For This Useful Post:


  47. #125
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Posts
    4,914
    I think this was expected and IMO will not amount to a hill of beans.

  48. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to ohiogirl For This Useful Post:


Page 5 of 68 FirstFirst 12345678910111213141555 ... LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 1063
    Last Post: 09-16-2011, 12:17 PM
  2. Replies: 985
    Last Post: 05-19-2011, 07:00 AM
  3. Replies: 681
    Last Post: 12-25-2010, 02:11 PM
  4. Anyone following Meredith Kercher/Amanda Knox
    By voynich in forum Amanda Knox
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 05-13-2009, 04:55 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •