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    Quote Originally Posted by Talina View Post
    I thought it was creepy that the doctor had such a problem or issue with this.

    Dr. W. seemed so focused on George being a molester that he seemed to totally forget any other part of the evaluation he was supposed to be doing on Casey.
    Well, I guess my mind is in the gutter...because in my mind's eye, while reading that bunch of malarky.....I could picture that doctor all..."worked up"...if you know what I mean. He really, really seemed to enjoy that part of the lie. And the part about him thinking GA's statement about missing Caylee, the smell of her....he actually found that SEXUAL. I don't know, but I find it hard to believe that a 2 year old puts out any kind of sexual "musk" smell.
    He was a freak in my opinion.


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    WHy in the world did Weitz review the two hour tape of the memorial? And why would the DT give him THAT to review? I think the jailhouse tapes would be much more revealing..oh that's right they wanted him to see the family that made her the way she is..
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    Quote Originally Posted by scmom View Post
    Let's not forget that Cindy stated that when she went to work that morning, Caylee and her egg donor were sleeping, but that she didn't actually see them because the door was closed. IIRC, she also said she could hear them breathing, though how that's possible is beyond me.
    Maybe OCA snores like a horse. And she ASSumed Caylee was there.

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    Lee was the only person to have focused on Caylee being missing..CA only worried about checks??? I don't know if I can read this BS
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    Quote Originally Posted by strawberry View Post
    WHy in the world did Weitz review the two hour tape of the memorial? And why would the DT give him THAT to review? I think the jailhouse tapes would be much more revealing..oh that's right they wanted him to see the family that made her the way she is..
    It was hilarious though, when he talked about Lee "screaming" CMA, CMA, CMA and kissing his bracelet. The doctor said something like "that was strange -- it obviously was a signal to somebody"

    DUH


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    Quote Originally Posted by leebee52 View Post
    I am 53 years old. I was sexually abused/assaulted by just about every man/boy I came into contact with between the ages of 7-21. It was not an option for me to "tell" or discuss anything about it because in that time period, no one talked about such things. In fact, I never knew that it was abuse until much much later because it wasn't a subject discussed in public or private, I just thought it was something I had to live with and endure. I've had problems all my life as a result and was just very recently diagnosed with Complex PTSD and it was an overwhelming relief to know that there was a reason for my problems and that it wasn't that I was just crazy or sick. The first and main offender for me was my stepfather. I don't want to go on and on about it, the point is, I was never like Casey. Not even close. The only person I ever felt like killing was myself. I'm married and have three grown boys but if I had had girls, I NEVER would have let them anywhere near those who abused me. A majority of the adult offenders in my situation were alcoholics which is also something I cannot be around at all and I did keep my boys away from that. I was shuttled around to various psychiatrists and even institutionalized by my alcoholic abusive parents because they used me as their personal scapegoat for things they were guilty of and I have to say...not one single doctor ever asked me about sex, sex abuse or even physical abuse and it makes me somewhat angry and sad now in some ways to see what is available these days as far as legal remedies and therapy for victims that I never got. I could have had a very different life had there been options such as those. SO... I don't feel one bit sorry for Casey. She's no victim. If I had her alone in a room I would cram what a real victim is down her vile disgusting lying throat.
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    "Although she believed the child was deceased, part of her wanted her daughter to be alive."
    WTF does this mean???? Part of her.... I haven't read this whole article, I just can't get past this statement, "part of her" I wonder which PART she's talking about! This, I don't even know what to call her, the word "IT" comes to mind!!! She's sooooo unbelievable!!!


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    LDB cracks me up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellaneph View Post
    I'm trying to keep my mouth shut and not "make waves," but the bias on this thread in particular is astounding. 2 different doctors who never met Casey before (and had more of a reason if anything to side with the prosecution) said the exact same thing and had the same trouble coming up with a "diagnosis" despite Ashton's attempt to force them to have one.

    I don't like how Ashton continues to laugh at the defense; that is unprofessional.

    And the fact that 2 people heard Ashton call the doctor an "as&*h*(e" is also way out of line.

    I don't understand why people have to be scared to post their views on this thread. Can't it be possible that George WAS involved? Can't it be possible Casey WAS molested? I, for one, think she was and she certainly does fit the profile and I've dealt with a lot of sexual abuse cases.

    I have watched every single second of the trial, so you can't possibly tell me something was wrong with the jury. There just wasn't enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. I think the jury were probably very happy today after reading those 2 depositions by those 2 UNBIASED doctors.
    IMO the doctors didn't report their opinion of her, they both related what they were told by Casey... a notorious liar. A liar who made the statement among friends on how good of a liar she was. I've not read all the reports yet, but according to what she told Danziner, her entire life is not her fault. According to her, nothing seems to be. There is something seriously wrong with somebody who won't admit to anything but just 'being there' and state that every event in her life, everything bad that happened, was beyond her control.

    I'm sorry, but her statements smell worse than the dead squirrel she was blaming the smell of death in her car on.
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    I think Weitz has dyscalcia. At one point he calls LA the younger brother. Someone asked did she say younger brother (or something). He goes no it says he was born in 82 so he's the younger brother. Now I'm reading where he is all mixed up on GA and the car business. On the same page he says they moved to FL in 89 then he says GA went back into the car business in Fl in 86.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyObsessed View Post
    It was hilarious though, when he talked about Lee "screaming" CMA, CMA, CMA and kissing his bracelet. The doctor said something like "that was strange -- it obviously was a signal to somebody"

    DUH
    Funny how his insight is correct THERE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by leebee52 View Post
    I am 53 years old. I was sexually abused/assaulted by just about every man/boy I came into contact with between the ages of 7-21. It was not an option for me to "tell" or discuss anything about it because in that time period, no one talked about such things. In fact, I never knew that it was abuse until much much later because it wasn't a subject discussed in public or private, I just thought it was something I had to live with and endure. I've had problems all my life as a result and was just very recently diagnosed with Complex PTSD and it was an overwhelming relief to know that there was a reason for my problems and that it wasn't that I was just crazy or sick. The first and main offender for me was my stepfather. I don't want to go on and on about it, the point is, I was never like Casey. Not even close. The only person I ever felt like killing was myself. I'm married and have three grown boys but if I had had girls, I NEVER would have let them anywhere near those who abused me. A majority of the adult offenders in my situation were alcoholics which is also something I cannot be around at all and I did keep my boys away from that. I was shuttled around to various psychiatrists and even institutionalized by my alcoholic abusive parents because they used me as their personal scapegoat for things they were guilty of and I have to say...not one single doctor ever asked me about sex, sex abuse or even physical abuse and it makes me somewhat angry and sad now in some ways to see what is available these days as far as legal remedies and therapy for victims that I never got. I could have had a very different life had there been options such as those. SO... I don't feel one bit sorry for Casey. She's no victim. If I had her alone in a room I would cram what a real victim is down her vile disgusting lying throat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallflower67 View Post
    I was just thinking maybe we would have heard from SEVERAL guys claiming to be the baby daddy. not NONE.

    I'm not saying I buy the rape story. She could have just laid down for a chain for all I know.
    The only way Caylee was a product of rape was if Casey was the rapist...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace Finklestein View Post
    I wonder how GA feels about this. I hope the jury takes note as well. I'm sure they're busy with their lawns and pets and donuts, but it would be good for them to see how wrong they got this.

    Hmm...I wonder why FCA left Caylee with GA the supposed molester? I cannot fathom what this woman has done to her family. Absolutely VILE.
    Yes... with Cindy's stamp of approval and full blessing.

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    I would like to know if anybody sees this stuff the same way I do. I tend to read these depos (especially Dr. W’s) with a view that is tainted by my belief that this molestation defense was concocted waaaay back in the case. Before the jailhouse letters, where the idea was floated for the public. I see it as if the defense provided certain “bullet points” to these experts in order to bolster their ludicrous defense lie. Anybody who was here from the beginning and read the threads for 8 hours or more each day will remember that certain posters would throw something out....such as a comment about how strange LA’s speech at the memorial was...and we would run with it. Theories would abound. By the defense’s own admission, they have let it be know that some of the defense came from the blogs themselves.
    So I tend to see it as “what came first? The chicken or the egg” kind of thing. I don’t take these things at face value...I can see underpinnings of the defense lie in EVERYTHING.

    ETA: I also remember when people started questioning - due to the name Cay-Lee if LA was the father...then the rumor of GA molesting her was thrown in somehow. I just remember when all of this stuff started being discussed and while yes, WSrs are very good at what they do, I think more times than not carrots were being dangled to make the horse follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Horace Finklestein View Post
    "Dad took her from me, said all's going to be okay. Daddy will take care of it,"

    Yeah. Sure. GA just decided to murder Caylee for no reason. If "daddy took care of it" why did she drive around with the body in her trunk? Why ditch the car? Oh this is just a wealth of nonsense.

    And why did she string CA alng with all her stories about her & Caylee with the nanny & the trip to Jacksonville? Oh I know.... cause it's another big fat lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tehcloser View Post
    My favorite part was if GA stopped molesting her at 12...how did she think Caylee could have been his? I realize the A's are special and all, but really, it only seems like pregnancies last years...
    When she realized how that sounded she added that he started up again for while, when she was 18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyObsessed View Post
    Well, I guess my mind is in the gutter...because in my mind's eye, while reading that bunch of malarky.....I could picture that doctor all..."worked up"...if you know what I mean. He really, really seemed to enjoy that part of the lie. And the part about him thinking GA's statement about missing Caylee, the smell of her....he actually found that SEXUAL. I don't know, but I find it hard to believe that a 2 year old puts out any kind of sexual "musk" smell.
    He was a freak in my opinion.
    Reminds me of one of the segments of Everybody Loves Raymond where the father says he loves the smell of the twins hair after a bath. He said he could just sit their and smell their heads all day.....something to that effect. Babies do have that new, fresh smell about them nothing sexual at all. Dr. W. failed to note that GA was home in the mornings and got Caylee her breakfast, watched cartoons with her, etc. That does not sound like KC was keeping Caylee away from her father. Also, why didn't he ask her if she knew enough to lock her door to protect Caylee why was she still living at home when a job would have provided her the opportunity to move? You're right, he focused on the lie without trying to figure out if she was telling the truth or lying to him. She lied to police officers so wouldn't he want to get that out of the way first to properly evaluate her?

    Well, Dr. W. did tell KC right up front he was a trauma doctor and that is why he was there. He gave KC all the information she needed to lead him down that path. He was looking for trauma not necessarily the truth. jmo
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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyObsessed View Post
    It was hilarious though, when he talked about Lee "screaming" CMA, CMA, CMA and kissing his bracelet. The doctor said something like "that was strange -- it obviously was a signal to somebody"

    DUH
    Heck most of us said the same thing at the time.

    Does that make us qualified psychiatrist? LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyObsessed View Post
    I would like to know if anybody sees this stuff the same way I do. I tend to read these depos (especially Dr. W’s) with a view that is tainted by my belief that this molestation defense was concocted waaaay back in the case. Before the jailhouse letters, where the idea was floated for the public. I see it as if the defense provided certain “bullet points” to these experts in order to bolster their ludicrous defense lie. Anybody who was here from the beginning and read the threads for 8 hours or more each day will remember that certain posters would throw something out....such as a comment about how strange LA’s speech at the memorial was...and we would run with it. Theories would abound. By the defense’s own admission, they have let it be know that some of the defense came from the blogs themselves.
    So I tend to see it as “what came first? The chicken or the egg” kind of thing. I don’t take these things at face value...I can see underpinnings of the defense lie in EVERYTHING.
    Agree. They had to come up with something sensational because they weren't prepared to tell the truth - Casey didn't want Caylee around anymore cramping her style, she didn't want Cindy to have her and she wanted to be #1 in her family again so she killed her, duct taped her and tossed her away like a piece of garbage.

    Nope, weren't prepared to say that. So TaDa! Presented complete rubbish instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TotallyObsessed View Post
    I would like to know if anybody sees this stuff the same way I do. I tend to read these depos (especially Dr. W’s) with a view that is tainted by my belief that this molestation defense was concocted waaaay back in the case. Before the jailhouse letters, where the idea was floated for the public. I see it as if the defense provided certain “bullet points” to these experts in order to bolster their ludicrous defense lie. Anybody who was here from the beginning and read the threads for 8 hours or more each day will remember that certain posters would throw something out....such as a comment about how strange LA’s speech at the memorial was...and we would run with it. Theories would abound. By the defense’s own admission, they have let it be know that some of the defense came from the blogs themselves.
    So I tend to see it as “what came first? The chicken or the egg” kind of thing. I don’t take these things at face value...I can see underpinnings of the defense lie in EVERYTHING.
    Remember the jail house visits at the beginning? KC said to her parents that Baez did not want her talking to them.
    IMO he already was planning on blaming GA way back then.
    He gave KC the idea & she ran with it. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZlawyer View Post
    OH BY THE WAY what did everyone think about Dr W's opinion that George probably molested Caylee since he mentioned that he liked her baby smell at the memorial service? Some people ought to examine themselves and their own sexual issues before they let themselves loose on the public....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cher352 View Post
    Heck most of us said the same thing at the time.

    Does that make us qualified psychiatrist? LOL!
    IMO? Just as qualified as that quack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cityslick View Post
    I think it takes something, I don't know if you want to call it skill, an illness, whatever, to concoct elaborate lies to the point of incredible detail and then to not only believe in those lies, but then because you are living a lie, to start creating lies based off other lies.

    She certainly is 'different' in that regard. Whether that's an illness or not, I'm not a doctor.
    She learned very early that lying got her the results she wanted, whether it was manipulating Cindy, or making her shallow personality a little more interesting to those she wanted to be with. She profited from it handsomely, so she did it all the time... and a lot of it is just grandiose wishful thinking (GA/CA divorcing and giving the house to her).

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    So I wonder where this leaves Mr. Roy Kronk? FCA sat there in court while an innocent man was disparaged and lied about...and wouldn't the loathsome Mr. Baez have some responsibility to NOT do something like that? Why on Earth is he allowed to practice law?

    Mystifying to me that the jury couldn't see through the "whatever works" approach of the defense. People have to start making demands to prevent this kind of degenerate behavior in court.
    Justice for GEORGE!

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