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    LIMA, Peru — Joran van der Sloot’s attorney says he has appealed his client’s 28-year sentence for murdering a young Peruvian woman he met in a Lima casino.

    Attorney Jose Jimenez says the three judges who sentenced Van der Sloot on Jan. 13 did not take into account his client’s initial confession to police.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...YLQ_story.html

    Was that the confession that he recanted because he didn't have a translator?


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    Quote Originally Posted by suzihawk View Post
    LIMA, Peru — Joran van der Sloot’s attorney says he has appealed his client’s 28-year sentence for murdering a young Peruvian woman he met in a Lima casino.

    Attorney Jose Jimenez says the three judges who sentenced Van der Sloot on Jan. 13 did not take into account his client’s initial confession to police.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...YLQ_story.html

    Was that the confession that he recanted because he didn't have a translator?
    Why yes I believe it was. You know...the confession he gave after he tried to pass off the murder originally as being committed by members of the Peruvian LE when he was telling his story to the Chilean LE. After the Chilean LE told him to take a hike and sent him back to Peru and he was told about all the evidence, he gave that actual confession that he then recanted because he didn't understand what was going on.



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    Hold on...are JVDS and Jimenez rewriting history here or have I got it all wrong? Did he confess in Chile?

    Jimenez said the request was being made because the court said the defendant had not collaborated with authorities.

    The Dutchman’s lawyer argues the opposite is true.

    "He was not captured in Chile, he turned himself in […] and gave details of how he had committed the crime."


    http://www.peruthisweek.com/news-142...uced-sentence/

    Since Jimenez came on board much later, does he even know about the crazy original story?



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    Dave Holloway comments on van der Sloot sentencing:
    January 23, 2012

    http://www.cbs42.com/content/localne...ZRn8JAnag.cspx

    "US Attorney Joyce Vance says detainers are in place for van der Sloot to be picked up when he is eventually released."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamille View Post
    Hold on...are JVDS and Jimenez rewriting history here or have I got it all wrong? Did he confess in Chile?

    Jimenez said the request was being made because the court said the defendant had not collaborated with authorities.

    The Dutchman’s lawyer argues the opposite is true.

    "He was not captured in Chile, he turned himself in […] and gave details of how he had committed the crime."


    http://www.peruthisweek.com/news-142...uced-sentence/

    Since Jimenez came on board much later, does he even know about the crazy original story?

    Rewriting history sounds about right. But is is JVDS after all, trying to rewrite history, take things back, ask for do-overs is what he's all about. Whatever works to his advantage at any given time.

    NOW he hopes it will work to his advantage to say he willingly turned himself in, immediately confessed and basically solved the case for them from the get go. But what happened back with his first attorney when they wanted everything thrown out?

    http://www.radaronline.com/category/...-van-der-sloot

    The reason he gave was the ongoing motion for habeas corpus -- a legal action whereby a defendant can seek relief from unlawful detention.

    van der Sloot's attorney, Maximo Altez, says his rights and due process were violated after his arrest in connection with the killing of the Peruvian student.

    Altez he hopes he will be able nullify the statements van der Sloot gave to police that led to his imprisonment.

    Van der Sloot is charged with murder in the May 30 killing in his hotel room of a 21-year-old Lima woman he met playing poker.

    He also remains the prime suspect in the 2005 disappearance in Aruba of U.S. teen Natalee Holloway.

    van der Sloot has said he was "tricked" into confessing.

    "In my blind panic I signed everything, but never knew what was written on them," he told De Telegraaf in a jail interview.
    And then he also had his 10 million dollar lawsuit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by annalia View Post
    http://www.rtl.nl/(/actueel/rtlnieuw...verklaring.xml

    partial translation

    VAN DER SLOOT VOID JUDGEMENT CALLS


    Joran wants the ruling of the judge who sentenced him to 28 years in prison, is annulled. He has the Peruvian Supreme Court sent a letter in which he substantiates this request.

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    Van der Sloot gave immediately after the verdict that he was the punishment of 28 years is excessive. Furthermore, his first confession "never estimated value," says his lawyer Jose Jimenez Navarro.

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    If the Supreme Court approves the invalidation, the verdict of 28 years off the table cell. What happens next is unclear. The court, the application of Van der Sloot study. It may take several months.



    So he wants the entire sentence thrown out now?


    Awww, he thinks 28 years for murdering a young woman is too excessive.

    I guess ending someone's life because you're mad at them, is ok though?

    Just trying to get this straight.

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    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1229012.html

    Jimenez's statement about van der Sloot's arrest is in direct contrast to how Chilean police had described taking him into custody on June 3, 2010. Officials then said Van der Sloot was traveling near the Chilean-Peru border when he was apprehended and taken to a police station in Santiago.
    No mention was made of surrender.

    After his arrest in Chili, van der Sloot had allegedly insisted he did not kill Flores, Chilean police said.
    Van der Sloot's attorney now claims his client cooperated by giving police a confession.
    "[He] gave details of how he had committed the crime," Jimenez told El Comercio.

    The validity of Jimenez's claim is somewhat questionable.
    After van der Sloot was arrested and transported back to Peru, authorities did announce that the Dutchman had confessed to the killing. "I did not want to do it," van der Sloot allegedly said about the attack.
    However, in the weeks following the alleged confession, van der Sloot filed a complaint against investigators in Peru, claiming he was arrested without a warrant and was not provided with an official translator, which he said caused confusion during questioning.
    "All this with the intention of pressuring me to accuse [myself] of homicide," the Dutch native said in the complaint.
    Van der Sloot also told a journalist from Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf that police "tricked" him into admitting his guilt.


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    Yeah... I guess he forgot all that hooey about the police (or ****s dressed as police) that supposedly robbed him and Stephany and then were in his hotel room with knives and guns when he and Stephany entered the room. <eyeroll>

    Sounds to me like Jimenez hasn't done his homework and is taking JVS at his word. (Ha!) Either that, or he just doesn't care and is trying to keep the tab running so he can collect some of that $69,000 that's left from Mary's money.

    Such a joke.


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    I have an opinion...that may not be a popular one...but here goes...
    The odds of JVDS ...surviving...in Peru's toughtest prison..for 28 years...is very small..


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    i will never understand why j thought he could get away with the "****s/police did it" story... after he noticed the camera right there outside his room and all... pointed right at the door where said ****s/police would've had to enter room 309. mind boggling!
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    Quote Originally Posted by suzihawk View Post
    Yeah... I guess he forgot all that hooey about the police (or ****s dressed as police) that supposedly robbed him and Stephany and then were in his hotel room with knives and guns when he and Stephany entered the room. <eyeroll>

    Sounds to me like Jimenez hasn't done his homework and is taking JVS at his word. (Ha!) Either that, or he just doesn't care and is trying to keep the tab running so he can collect some of that $69,000 that's left from Mary's money.

    Such a joke.
    Well at $1500 a month, I don't expect Jimenez to be working very hard on this case and doing his research but I do think he wants to continue to make this money so he just keeps making Joran believe he's got some hope here. I'm sure he's doing whatever Joran tells him to do because that's the only way to deal with Joran or you're out. Something tells me Jimenez is well aware of this. How did Altez end up off the case?

    Sometimes I have to wonder if Jimenez is really just conning money out of Joran (well really MH) by letting him call the shots and not really helping him with his case by giving him solid advice and telling him why certain things aren't going to fly. Not bothering to point out to him the obvious contradictions that are so blatant they're almost comical. And when I think this, I really hope this is true...the ultimate irony.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadedgal View Post
    i will never understand why j thought he could get away with the "****s/police did it" story... after he noticed the camera right there outside his room and all... pointed right at the door where said ****s/police would've had to enter room 309. mind boggling!
    I think he was gambling on the fact that a flea bag hotel like the one he was staying in might not have actually gone to the expense to install working surveillence and maybe they were just decoy cameras. Or that the system wasn't working and it would be unlikely that they'd fix it. I guess it was worth a shot.

    Apparently he didn't do his homework to know that the surveillence cameras are mucho importante in Lima.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamille View Post
    Sometimes I have to wonder if Jimenez is really just conning money out of Joran (well really MH) by letting him call the shots and not really helping him with his case by giving him solid advice and telling him why certain things aren't going to fly. Not bothering to point out to him the obvious contradictions that are so blatant they're almost comical. And when I think this, I really hope this is true...the ultimate irony.

    oy-- i hope not. wouldn't that be enough to possibly get the conviction over-turned/thrown out... and j possibly released?
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    Quote Originally Posted by justus4all View Post
    I have an opinion...that may not be a popular one...but here goes...
    The odds of JVDS ...surviving...in Peru's toughtest prison..for 28 years...is very small..
    bolded by me.

    It would seem that way, but he's like a rat or a cockroach...he will probably find a way to survive. I hope not, but he probably will.

    And p.s., your opinion is very popular with me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by justus4all View Post
    I have an opinion...that may not be a popular one...but here goes...
    The odds of JVDS ...surviving...in Peru's toughtest prison..for 28 years...is very small..
    It's not unpopular with me. And I'd be good with that.

    Quote Originally Posted by redheadedgal View Post
    i will never understand why j thought he could get away with the "****s/police did it" story... after he noticed the camera right there outside his room and all... pointed right at the door where said ****s/police would've had to enter room 309. mind boggling!
    Well, why not give it a shot? It no more outlandish that the many other lies he's told over the years - most for money. He left an alive Natalee alone on the beach. She had a seizure. She fell and hit her head on a rock. Natalee overdosed on cocaine and fell off a balcony. He sold Natalee into slavery. She was buried under the foundation of a house under construction. He gets more creative with every lie. None are very believable, however.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kamille View Post
    Well at $1500 a month, I don't expect Jimenez to be working very hard on this case and doing his research but I do think he wants to continue to make this money so he just keeps making Joran believe he's got some hope here. I'm sure he's doing whatever Joran tells him to do because that's the only way to deal with Joran or you're out. Something tells me Jimenez is well aware of this. How did Altez end up off the case?

    Sometimes I have to wonder if Jimenez is really just conning money out of Joran (well really MH) by letting him call the shots and not really helping him with his case by giving him solid advice and telling him why certain things aren't going to fly. Not bothering to point out to him the obvious contradictions that are so blatant they're almost comical. And when I think this, I really hope this is true...the ultimate irony.

    MOO
    I think both of your theories are probably true. Athough I think the second is probably more likely.

    Didn't Altez quit because of getting death threats? I remember his office was vandalized and his wife had to move to their other home in Miami because of the outrage against him for defending JVS.


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