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    ARUBA - Robyn Gardner, 35, Maryland woman missing in Aruba, 2 Aug 2011 - #10

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    35-year-old Robyn Gardner disappeared while on vacation in Aruba on August 2, 2011. Her traveling companion and suspect in the case, Gary Giordano, says she was swept away while they were snorkeling.

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    i had an "epiphany" last night about our discussion re: whether ALE were really taking this case seriously or if they just wanted to get rid of GG for "other reasons"... and as much as i once took the side of the latter, i've had a change of heart. i think if ALE had truly wanted this to just go away (for tourism, for the economy etc) they would've said they believed GG from the get go, classified it as an accidental drowning and told him to go home... for them to say -and continue to say- they don't believe him and to also hold him for as long as they did tells me they are taking this seriously... does this make any sense?
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    i also thought of a list of things we can sleuth about GG -the prime suspect- in 2012:

    -- is he working?
    -- how does he spend his free time?
    -- is he still trying to call about the insurance $?
    -- is he paying child support as ordered?
    -- how are his relationships with his sons?
    -- does he have a new girlfriend? is he even dating?
    -- is he doing ANYTHING re: robyn or has he "forgotten" about her?

    i don't know if it's even possible to find out the answers to any of these questions but i thought i'd throw it all out there for anyone who's interested to ponder/sleuth...
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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadedgal View Post
    i had an "epiphany" last night about our discussion re: whether ALE were really taking this case seriously or if they just wanted to get rid of GG for "other reasons"... and as much as i once took the side of the latter, i've had a change of heart. i think if ALE had truly wanted this to just go away (for tourism, for the economy etc) they would've said they believed GG from the get go, classified it as an accidental drowning and told him to go home... for them to say -and continue to say- they don't believe him and to also hold him for as long as they did tells me they are taking this seriously... does this make any sense?
    Let me be the first to agree with you, but then, I have always thought they were taking this case seriously.....and yes, your post makes perfect sense.


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    I agree. I think it just boils down to Aruba requiring more evidence, whereas if this happened in the US, he'd probably have been charged with all the circumstantial evidence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by thumbtack View Post
    I agree. I think it just boils down to Aruba requiring more evidence, whereas if this happened in the US, he'd probably have been charged with all the circumstantial evidence.
    It still is an open case for both US and Aruba. If some of her remains shows up on a beach in the opposite direction of where the currents go it may be a whole different ballgame for him. jmo


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    Quote Originally Posted by LambChop View Post
    It still is an open case for both US and Aruba. If some of her remains shows up on a beach in the opposite direction of where the currents go it may be a whole different ballgame for him. jmo
    That is what this whole case rests on Lambchop, finding Robyn either alive or otherwise.. I do not buy into the kidnapped or trafficked idea, its either in or around the coast of Aruba for me.JMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    That is what this whole case rests on Lambchop, finding Robyn either alive or otherwise.. I do not buy into the kidnapped or trafficked idea, its either in or around the coast of Aruba for me.JMO
    To be honest, that may have been what the Arubans were waiting for. She was not suppose to be that far out so her body should have come back to shore. If she went in on the eastern coast it may take awhile. You would be amazed at what you find on those small beach areas along the eastern coast. All kinds of things wash ashore, well they have in the past. Lately it has been pretty clean back there whether it is cleaned up on a regular basis or they're just careful what is dumped out in the ocean, not sure but it is better. jmo


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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadedgal View Post
    i had an "epiphany" last night about our discussion re: whether ALE were really taking this case seriously or if they just wanted to get rid of GG for "other reasons"... and as much as i once took the side of the latter, i've had a change of heart. i think if ALE had truly wanted this to just go away (for tourism, for the economy etc) they would've said they believed GG from the get go, classified it as an accidental drowning and told him to go home... for them to say -and continue to say- they don't believe him and to also hold him for as long as they did tells me they are taking this seriously... does this make any sense?
    I don't think they can classify it as an accidental drowning without her body, IMO. Look how long it has taken to declare NH dead.

    There are no witnesses to seeing them go in the water that afternoon - and no evidence Robyn went snorkeling (gear floating around, receipts for snorkeling gear, etc.).

    I totally agree they are taking it seriously, they just want to take it seriously from afar


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    Lying like a dirty rug....

    I find it puzzling that in the reenactment, the guy playing GG is bald. These reenactments are common in the Netherlands, FWIU- there was one done in the Holloway case is well, IIRC....and they are based on witness statements - in RG's case, based mostly on GG's statements. So why was the guy portraying GG bald? The woman posing as Robyn had long blonde hair - obviously they wanted to maintain integrity in the depiction.

    I'm wondering if there is a witness somewhere that saw a bald man in a car like the rented on, maybe on the other side of the island, during that time period.

    How convenient to keep from being recognized?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    That is what this whole case rests on Lambchop, finding Robyn either alive or otherwise.. I do not buy into the kidnapped or trafficked idea, its either in or around the coast of Aruba for me.JMO
    BBM - I still have hope that forensic analysis of GG's and RG's electronics, both in Aruba and the US, produces enough incriminating evidence to eventually charge him (I included RG's because I'm convinced that GG was using them - phone and/or Ipad after her disappearance). You have to be trying awfully hard to hide something to warrant a complete wipe of your hard drives. I don't think it's something an innocent person would do.

    What really bothers me about all this, given GG's history, is that he probably thinks he's Teflon, since he's done a lot of despicable things in the past and apparently has never really been punished for any of them. That's got to be fueling his sociopathic tendencies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWNP View Post

    What really bothers me about all this, given GG's history, is that he probably thinks he's Teflon, since he's done a lot of despicable things in the past and apparently has never really been punished for any of them. That's got to be fueling his sociopathic tendencies.
    I guess the more and more any criminal gets away with things,it gives them more and more confidence go on and commit other crimes, but sooner or later that over confidence turns into a feeling of being uncatchable? if thats a word or untouchable, and then they mess up eventually and come unstuck!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vlpate View Post
    I find it puzzling that in the reenactment, the guy playing GG is bald. These reenactments are common in the Netherlands, FWIU- there was one done in the Holloway case is well, IIRC....and they are based on witness statements - in RG's case, based mostly on GG's statements. So why was the guy portraying GG bald? The woman posing as Robyn had long blonde hair - obviously they wanted to maintain integrity in the depiction.

    I'm wondering if there is a witness somewhere that saw a bald man in a car like the rented on, maybe on the other side of the island, during that time period.

    How convenient to keep from being recognized?
    Well, GG is bald. He wears a toupee, and there was at least one pic of him without his toupee. So maybe they were just playing it like it is. Or, maybe they were poking at GG a little, eh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by neesaki View Post
    Well, GG is bald. He wears a toupee, and there was at least one pic of him without his toupee. So maybe they were just playing it like it is. Or, maybe they were poking at GG a little, eh?
    Well, LE did say they had trouble picking him out on those videos (they must have quite a few from the hotel) because he kept changing his toupe which changed how he looked. Did someone say he had three different ones? I thought I read that somewhere. jmo


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    Quote Originally Posted by redheadedgal View Post
    i also thought of a list of things we can sleuth about GG -the prime suspect- in 2012:

    -- is he working?
    -- how does he spend his free time?
    -- is he still trying to call about the insurance $?
    -- is he paying child support as ordered?
    -- how are his relationships with his sons?
    -- does he have a new girlfriend? is he even dating?
    -- is he doing ANYTHING re: robyn or has he "forgotten" about her?

    i don't know if it's even possible to find out the answers to any of these questions but i thought i'd throw it all out there for anyone who's interested to ponder/sleuth...
    Is he working - I did some research on his website a while back - not sure what he does - but he's had a few websites in the past few years.

    Great questions....


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