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    PA - Fort Indiantown Gap, WhtFem 609UFPA, 16-20, covered w/ plastic, Oct'73

    The Doe Network:
    Case File 609UFPA
    http://doenetwork.org/cases/609ufpa.html

    Reconstruction of Victim

    Unidentified White Female

    The victim was discovered on October 10, 1973 in Fort Indiantown Gap Military Reservation, Pennsylvania
    Estimated Date of Death: September 1973
    Decomposed from the waist up.

    Vital Statistics

    Estimated age: 16-20 years old
    Approximate Height and Weight: 5'6"-5'8"
    Distinguishing Characteristics: Light brown/blonde hair.
    Dentals: Available
    Clothing: Nude. No jewelry
    Skeletal Findings: No previous fractures.
    Fingerprints: Available
    Dentals: Available
    DNA: Not Available

    Case History
    Remains were not buried but covered with tree branches, brush and a 48"x32.5" piece of plastic.
    A white seal on the plastic read "National Sanitation Foundation, Testing Laboratory, Number "8505".
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-27-2013 at 07:40 PM.

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    For the longest time, I've been trying to find info on Barbara Jean Aleksivich (Maiden Name Jones) from Bath NY. All that has been out there is the NamUs no photo casefile with no indication of the circumstances of her disappearance.

    https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/11936/0

    I contacted Investigator Heather Wheaton of the Village of Bath PD. She sent me a photo of Barbara Jean Aleksivich.



    She also gave me a brief summary of the circumstances of her disappearance. She was last seen taking a two-block walk home from the local Elks lodge. She was never seen again. There is a local man who was convicted of another murder in which he burned the body of the victim. He has served his sentence on that crime, and is still living in the area. They suspect that he might have been involved in Barbara Jean's disappearance, but they have not been able to come up with enough evidence to charge him with her dissapearance/murder.

    Looking at the UID's from that time period, this Jane Doe seems to fit reasonably close - enough so that I think it warrants a look.

    • The Jane Doe was found only seven days after Barbara’s disappearance.
    • Her height (5’6” – 5’8”) is consistent to Barbara’s height.
    • Her estimated age (16-20) is a little low, but not excessively so.
    The drawing is of poor quality, so I wouldn’t put too much reliance on the comparison to her photo, but like the drawing, Barbara appears to have a prominent nose and strong chin.

    ETA: Submitted by e-mail to Investigator Wheaton
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 10-11-2012 at 12:39 AM.

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    Investigator Wheaton replied to my e-mail and said that she sees nothing in the casefile to indicate that Barbara Aleksivich was ever compared to this Jane Doe.

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    What does it mean, Decomposed from the waist up? Why weren't the lower parts decomposed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donjeta View Post
    What does it mean, Decomposed from the waist up? Why weren't the lower parts decomposed?
    Just guessing, but perhaps due to the plastic wrapping, her upper body was more exposed to the elements and wildlife than the lower half.

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    I would love to know where the guy who did time on the other murder lived, I am assuming Bath NY. This area where the UID was located is pretty much a straight shot down Hwy 15 just 3 and a half hours away. Looking at the map, seems as though there would be a million places to dump a body closer to Bath NY, but I can't ever seem to figure these killers out. Probably a good thing! Please let us know what happens!

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    She's been added to Namus

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/12689

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    Sandra Hopler fits pretty well.

    Age (18) fits in the 16 - 20 age range
    Race (Caucasian) matches
    Height is within 3 inches
    Hair (long, light brown) matches the UID's
    Timing lines up very well. Sandra went missing on September 29, which is 11 days before the UID's discovery. UID's postmortem interval was one week
    Distance (114 miles) is reasonable

    Her dentals aren't in NamUs, so no automatic comparison could be made.

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    I submitted Sandra Hopler as a potential match to this UID about 4 years ago to the Pennsylvania State Police, who are in charge of Sandra's case. They had already been compared & were not a match.

    Here is a link to Sandra's thread, along with that information if you want to read more:
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...e-29-Sept-1973

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    A girl named Helen Allison, missing since May 1972, was just added to NamUs yesterday. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/28085/64/

    I was able to find a thread her sister started on a people-finding forum three years ago, and a PA state trooper actually responded in December of last year because Helen matches the description of a UID found in 1973. He didn't really elaborate past that, but I'm 99.999% sure he's talking about this one (609UFPA).

    - Her age (16) would be within range
    - Race (Caucasian) matches
    - Height (5'3) is within 3 inches
    - Her hair (long, light brown/strawberry blonde) matches the description
    - Distance between Fairfax, VA and Lebanon, PA is only 154 miles
    - Timing (Almost 1 1/2 years between date LKA and the UID's date of discovery) doesn't rule her out, since there's no indication that Helen was killed soon after she disappeared.

    The circumstances are pretty vague; all I know is that she disappeared after being dropped off at a Jack in the Box and that her case was apparently classified as a runaway. Based on that info only, there isn't really anything to rule her out.

    The state trooper posted a little over three months ago and I don't know if Helen's dentals or DNA have been compared to this UID yet. She isn't on the rule-out list in NamUs, though.


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    Jane Doe was added to the NCMEC today:http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMU/1184545/1/screen


    Cali Doe was Tammy Jo

    1-25-2015

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    I've got the third view (opposite profile) on PA Missing
    http://pennsylvaniamissing.com/609ufpafortindgap.html

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    There's some new information on this case, as well as a recent recon. There's also a possible ID, but nothing has been confirmed yet.
    Info is at this link:
    http://m.wgal.com/news/new-tech-may-...later/35745278

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    http://www.readingeagle.com/news/art...year-old-death

    Law enforcement's possible lead is alive and well.

    I don't know if it's just me but their recon makes her seem a lot older than 16-20.

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    This Doe's DNA is currently being tested against Jan Cotta's - missing in 1973 from NJ.

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