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    While looking into the Phillips matter, I discovered this address by Spanier:

    http://live.psu.edu/story/2667


    Spanier apparently didn't mind challenging Paterno over a matter of sexual abuse of a woman... why did he have a problem with challenging Paterno over sexual abuse of children?

    Also, to throw in another tidbit I discovered tonight... Dr. Dranov, the boss of Mike McQueary's father, who advised Mike to report the shower incident to Paterno, and who testified at the Curley/Schultz grand jury and also at the Sandusky trial... was Paterno's physican for over 10 years after the shower incident, was with Paterno in his final days, and signed his death certificate - yet he allegedly never discussed the shower incident with Paterno...I find this to be another strange thing in this twisted story.

    http://www.observer-reporter.com/or/...t-abuse-report


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    In some ways, Paterno had a point with Phillips. The case was weak, and the expulsion had not started. Phillips was properly a student, not currently under a disciplinary suspension.

    I can also understand Dr. Dranov a bit. That was a personal matter, and his relationship with Paterno was professional. McQueary did not clearly describe what he had seen, according to Dranov's testimony.


    What happened to former Centre County DA Ray Gricar?


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    The ugly rumor rears its head again:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...tSpecialReport

    It does mention no evidence of a "ring," although a less reputable site, www.radaronline.com, suggests there might be one.

    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusive...gation-booster

    Then, there's this:

    http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012...arnaby-wittels

    And, one more. Just because.

    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/ind...three_men.html
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    None of those are linked to RFG, but we will no doubt hear the "Ray-in-gay-because-he-drove-Mini" again.


    What happened to former Centre County DA Ray Gricar?


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    A related article...read the Bucceroni comments following:

    http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive...of_appeal.aspx


    Troubling stuff about law enforcement and "AG officials" ...protecting "political and millionaire buddies." Not to mention the mob being involved in a tri-state operation...


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    Yes, no direct link to Mr. Gricar, but more implications that there was something much larger going on, something that involved powerful people who might have a lot to lose if Sandusky got busted and more things were discovered. People who might be able to make a man disappear. Is there anything to it?? I don't pretend to know. Like many here, I think it would be nice to have resolution, even if this ugly situation gets even uglier.


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  11. #577
    At least 3 PSU professors have been linked to pedophilia, from the 1970's and
    1980's, or more recently. I don't know when Gricar first joined the DA's office, but he might have known about Lasaga...

    http://articles.courant.com/2000-05-...polygraph-test

    http://climateaudit.org/2011/11/14/l...nd-penn-state/

    Notice how other PSU professors defend him.


    http://articles.philly.com/2005-02-0...l-abuse-autism

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/victim-penn...4960575&page=2


    https://fellowshipofminds.wordpress..../kenneth-kyle/

    Regarding the last one, be sure to read the part about leaving a tenured job at PSU for a non-tenured job in CA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J. J. in Phila View Post
    What I was thinking was that RFG would prosecute a case at the drop of a hat, if it involved a death. He had cases that it was absolutely clear no Centre County jury would convict, but they involved deaths.

    I am wondering it he was just more focused on those, considered them more serious, than on child abuse cases. In this case, the 1998 was so strong that I just can't see him passing on it or not investigating it further.

    As I said previously, there is no evidence anyone a PSU put pressure on him, and they were looking at easing Sandusky out. There is zero evidence of bribery.
    Maybe like Mr. Ray Gricar, the evidence of bribery vanished with him?! I can't believe that a man who was known to be a great advocate for battered women, would simply ignore a case like this!! jmo of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by nittanylioness234 View Post
    A related article...read the Bucceroni comments following:

    http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive...of_appeal.aspx


    Troubling stuff about law enforcement and "AG officials" ...protecting "political and millionaire buddies." Not to mention the mob being involved in a tri-state operation...
    He's been posting that all week on various websites.


    What happened to former Centre County DA Ray Gricar?


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    Quote Originally Posted by CJMAJORGIRL24 View Post
    Maybe like Mr. Ray Gricar, the evidence of bribery vanished with him?! I can't believe that a man who was known to be a great advocate for battered women, would simply ignore a case like this!! jmo of course
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    What happened to former Centre County DA Ray Gricar?


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    Quote Originally Posted by nittanylioness234 View Post
    At least 3 PSU professors have been linked to pedophilia, from the 1970's and
    1980's, or more recently. I don't know when Gricar first joined the DA's office, but he might have known about Lasaga...
    RFG started as an ADA in 12/80, but he was not the top man. He might have known, but I doubt that he have had any "management" role in the case. Further, his wife at the time, was a professor in another department; he might not have been involved for that reason.

    The other one was at the Harrisburg Campus and outside of his jurisdiction.


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    I just noticed something about the 1998 police report which various websites have. On all of them, pages 23 and 24 are missing. Page 22 ends with 5/13/98, and says the investigation will continue. Page 25 dated 6/1/98 has the famous Lauro/Schreffler interview with Sandusky, where JS is asked not to shower with boys again, and he agrees. Then the case is closed. What happened between 5/13/98 and 6/1/98? Has anyone seen these missing pages?


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    Quote Originally Posted by quixote View Post
    The ugly rumor rears its head again:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...tSpecialReport

    It does mention no evidence of a "ring," although a less reputable site, www.radaronline.com, suggests there might be one.
    Have followed Ray's disappearance from day one (have lurked this thread for almost a year). As soon as I read the CBS/AP report on Friday, the first thing I thought about was the computer and hard drive that RG ditched. What the heck was on that computer??

    To be clear, I don't believe RG was involved in anything nefarious; rather, did he have evidence on there linked to this that was simply so HUGE that either someone made sure it got destroyed or it scared RG into running? Could RG have been threatened -- might someone have threatened RG with harm to his daughter -- if he pushed the issue?

    Just thinking out loud here. All IMO.
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    Welcome to the thread, Bionic Woman.

    There is a fundamental problem with anyone other than RFG destroying the hard drive for the specific purpose of wanting to hide whatever was on that drive. Nobody else would know if RFG had copied that data to another source.

    RFG had access to his home desktop computer and to his office desktop. He could have easily copied whatever was on the laptop's drive onto either one of those. Those are both intact.

    He also could have copied the data to an on-line storage site, to a removable storage device, or to hard copies.

    If it was destroyed for that specific purpose, RFG did it.


    What happened to former Centre County DA Ray Gricar?


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