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    "incestuous" images found on JP's computer in Utah

    Please excuse me if I am missing something (and delete/combine if I am repeating), but I do not see a thread for this latest dose of disturbing "breaking" news:

    APNewsBreak: Powell had 'incestuous' images


    Before Josh Powell was going to try to win back custody of his children last week, Washington state authorities received materials from Utah police that had been discovered on a computer in Powell's home two years ago.

    Authorities say the images depicted "incestuous" sex and were disconcerting enough that they prompted a psychologist to recommend that Powell undergo an intensive psychosexual evaluation.
    read more at: http://www.macon.com/2012/02/09/1899...ncestuous.html

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    Just when I thought we'd heard the worst -------I read this on MSNBC a few mintues ago. OMG.
    http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...rent-child-sex
    Shapley said the material found on the computer was so disturbing that it prompted the state psychologist consulting in the custody case to change his opinion and recommend that the court prevent the return of the children.

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    Looking a little further, I see that this has been mentioned on another thread, the one about Powell family statements.

    The article I linked explains that these images were found in 2009 and that they were "realistic computer-generated" images (not actual photos) -- I guess a type of animation -- so apparently there may be some question about whether they are illegal ...?
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    Backwoods, yes I read the same thing. I'm thinking even cartoonish characters can be porn imho. Especially if the images represent incestuous acts.

    Was J an incestuous, pedophile,pre meditated murderer?
    Makes me feel sick when I think about what the boys may have gone through.

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    Wait, what? They found these images TWO YEARS AGO and were just NOW beginning to think it might be wise to evaluate if it has a bearing on his custody of his sons???

    From his comments in the custody hearing it sounded to me like the lawyer knew exactly what these images were. Knowing they were computer generated he'd be able to say they aren't illegal but he also knew they were in extremely bad taste and concerning IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Backwoods View Post
    Looking a little further, I see that this has been mentioned on another thread, the one about Powell family statements.

    The article I linked explains that these images were found in 2009 and that they were "realistic computer-generated" images (not actual photos) -- I guess a type of animation -- so apparently there may be some question about whether they are illegal ...?
    Illegal or not-that is information that should have been shared long ago! Especially after Steven's arrest!!

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    Is anyone else wondering what "incestuous" means in this instance? It could mean Josh and the kids, or it could mean Josh and other family members. My mind is going in strange directions here.

    I just hope the family doesn't blame the internet, LE, or the media for this latest news. No one made JP do any of these acts, and each one seems worse than the next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoughtFox View Post
    Is anyone else wondering what "incestuous" means in this instance? It could mean Josh and the kids, or it could mean Josh and other family members. My mind is going in strange directions here.

    I just hope the family doesn't blame the internet, LE, or the media for this latest news. No one made JP do any of these acts, and each one seems worse than the next.
    Some of the reports use the term "parent-child" to describe the depicted relationships, ThoughtFox.

    I guess, if they are "computer generated" they could be "generic" parent and child depictions (not resembling anyone specific) ... but I don't know.

    Gosh, could it be some kind of "training tool" ... So creepy, from the sound of it. Guess maybe we will hear more eventually.

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    That is exactly what they seem to be. With JP's training the kids to run around naked, that naked play is good, and see the fun pictures showing how daddy and sons can play together naked!?

    Grooming is what it's known as.

    Sadly, he couldn't live without his sons because they were his entire sexual outlet.


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    From what I understand child pornographers have been using life like computer generated images to circumvent child pornography laws. The images are completely life like but not illegal because they aren't using real people. A loophole that I was under the impression they were working to correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dovebar View Post
    That is exactly what they seem to be. With JP's training the kids to run around naked, that naked play is good, and see the fun pictures showing how daddy and sons can play together naked!?

    Grooming is what it's known as.

    Sadly, he couldn't live without his sons because they were his entire sexual outlet.
    Let's not forget that Papa Powell was showing porn movies to his daughter Jennifer when she was only 11 or so. Looks like Josh is following in Daddy's footsteps.
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    Just sick. Who in God's name (any god - insert your own god here) would allow such a person visitation with their children?

    I'm getting more and more upset with the lack of accountability in this case, and I thought nothing could surprise me anymore after all my years on Websleuths. But that nice social worker who was bringing the boys to visit JP surely didn't know anything about the incest porn, did she? And if she didn't know, why not?


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    I think the boys were starting to open up with the Coxes and they were becoming a threat to JP and perhaps even his dad.

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    I heard this on ABC news. I heard it twice. I had to hear it the second time before I realized he said "incestuous" and not "pornographic". I was still thinking about seeing the interview with the social worker when the newsman said about the computer searches!

    Of course, I came here to read the thread.

    It could mean the kids, other family children, his siblings, his parents, or any mix of them. No matter which, it doesn't sound good.

    I'm trying not to imagine the horror those little boys lived for 5 and 7 years.

    Last night, I watched online an episode of Dateline (Dec 2011, I think) and was totally creeped out by the sexual accusations made by Steve against Susan. Totally obvious to me, he was the one making advances.

    Now this. I think we suspected the family was "mixed up". I'm just sick thinking Susan's babies could have been involved. Please, NO!!!

    Evil has no boundaries.

    So this stuff was found two years ago and he just lost custody when his father was arrested??? WTH were they thinking???
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