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    TX - Austin man stopped twice, 'roughed & cuffed' for "babysitting while white"

    'Babysitting while white?' Meet the white grandfather who was detained
    and HANDCUFFED for walking home with his black granddaughter... TWICE
    (Daily Mail)
    Scott Henson is a self-described Texas redneck, white and middle-aged. His granddaughter Ty -- the five-year-old daughter of his goddaughter -- is black and Mr Henson often finds himself babysitting her.

    And that pairing has apparently drawn the suspicion of police in Mr Henson's hometown of Austin, Texas. Twice in three years, he has been swarmed by officers and questioned aggressively -- for no other reason than being a white man walking down the sidewalk with a little black girl, he says.
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    In each encounter, Mr Henson said he was terse with officers and reluctant to give information because he was insulted that he was being stopped and questioned for being with a little girl of a different race. He maintains he had no obligation to cooperate.

    But he says the subsequent police response was rude, incompetent and terrifying to his young granddaughter.
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    'I'd like her to view police as people she can trust instead of threats to her and her family, but it's possible I live in the wrong neighborhood for that.,' he wrote.
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    more, with pictures, at link above

    Links to Mr. Henson's blog entries about each incident:

    Is "Babysitting While White" reasonable suspicion for police questioning?
    (06 November 2008)

    Me, APD, and 'Babysitting While White,' Part Deux (11 February 2012)

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    Oh my. I wonder if records exist to determine if a call was really made about a white man kidnapping a black child. Or if this mans neighbors and community are that ignorant and making complaints due to the childs race.

    What a horrible example of LE in front of this child.
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    Being terse and reluctant to answer questions is what led to this.

    IMO, that's not a very good example for the little girl to witness either.
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    But, then again, I'm very glad to know that people are keeping and eye out and contacting police if they are concerned that the little girl is in danger. Better that he be insulted than have a young girl abducted under people's noses with no one saying a word.

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    I'd be terse and reluctant myself. maybe not the first time, but by the second time...they wouldn't get a word out of me except the date of the first time this was cleared up and my name, as well as the child's name.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ada View Post
    But, then again, I'm very glad to know that people are keeping and eye out and contacting police if they are concerned that the little girl is in danger. Better that he be insulted than have a young girl abducted under people's noses with no one saying a word.
    What makes them concerned that the little girl is in danger except the fact that grandpa and the child are of different races?
    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwaysonmymind View Post
    Being terse and reluctant to answer questions is what led to this.

    IMO, that's not a very good example for the little girl to witness either.
    "Being terse and reluctant to answer questions" has nothing to do with the fact that the police stopped and interrogated the guy. That occurred after he was stopped and interrogated for no real reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by not_my_kids View Post
    I'd be terse and reluctant myself. maybe not the first time, but by the second time...they wouldn't get a word out of me except the date of the first time this was cleared up and my name, as well as the child's name.

    I have to agree with this. Not the first time, but definately subsequent times.
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    It sounds like, to me, he walks with her quite a lot. Wouldn't folks in the neighborhood get used to seeing them together? Sadly, my suspicion is that it offends some prevailing sensibility that he's upsetting-- and we all know what that might be.

    I do wonder, because of his blog, if he goes walking with her in areas that might react this way? As if he's walking in a peaceful protest all the time? If so, shame on him for setting her up to be treated like that. We all know ignorance exists at all levels (rich, poor, lawmen, etc.), he could use another avenue of revealing it if that's his intent.

    If I were that child's mother, I would say: Enough with the strolling around, already. Take a car! You're scaring and scarring her. At least limit the walks to areas where that kind of response wouldn't happen. moo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiche View Post
    It sounds like, to me, he walks with her quite a lot. Wouldn't folks in the neighborhood get used to seeing them together? Sadly, my suspicion is that it offends some prevailing sensibility that he's upsetting-- and we all know what that might be.

    I do wonder, because of his blog, if he goes walking with her in areas that might react this way? As if he's walking in a peaceful protest all the time? If so, shame on him for setting her up to be treated like that. We all know ignorance exists at all levels (rich, poor, lawmen, etc.), he could use another avenue of revealing it if that's his intent.

    If I were that child's mother, I would say: Enough with the strolling around, already. Take a car! You're scaring and scarring her. At least limit the walks to areas where that kind of response wouldn't happen. moo
    BBM.

    The area that he's walking in is a very diverse community, historically low income but experiencing some renewal in recent years. There is no reason to think that this would be an area more likely to be suspect, quite the opposite, in fact. Just FYI.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    "Being terse and reluctant to answer questions" has nothing to do with the fact that the police stopped and interrogated the guy. That occurred after he was stopped and interrogated for no real reason.
    I have to look at this from another perspective. If a white man kidnapped his granddaughter, walked her down the street and no one called LE, no LE stopped the guy to question him.... would this grandfather complain?

    Neighborhood people saw an anomaly. An older white man and a little African American girl. They stood out. Many are keying into the fact that they are different races. But what I am keying into is that it is unusual for an older man to be walking around alone with a little girl. Yeah it happens, but it is unusual. You frequently see older women and little kids, but not usually older men. Then you add the difference in race and that ramps up the suspicion.

    No one accosted/accosted/threatened/harmed him, they just wanted him questioned to see if it was legit. If I see something out of the ordinary between an adult and a child on the street, should I just assume that it is legit and ignore it?
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    I could agree with the idea that maybe it is a good thing about people being observant, and to a certain extent I think it is. My problem isn't with the people that called. My problem is "Detained" and "Handcuffed". At this point, you are no longer having a friendly chat or an intellectual conversation. The police cannot detain you for no reason. They have to have a reasonable suspicion, visible evidence or a fear for their own safety, in order to detain a citizen. So, at this point, because he is doing nothing more than walking down a public street with a child, he is being told that he is a danger, a threat, or a visible criminal. I would be pretty terse by that time too.

    if the police stopped me and talked to me like a rational person, and gave me reasonable treatment under the circumstances, I would likely be a lot more enjoyable to speak to. But, that's not what they did.
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    The 'stop and identify' statute allows LE to stop someone and question them. Refusing to give LE your name if this happens is usually a sign that a person is wanted for some reason or another.

    He refused to give his name.

    LE didn't just roll up on him and cuff him for no reason.

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    The LE on the street often has only their observations to go when on the street. Grandpa admitted to being terse and reluctant to give info. That likely made LE suspicious and wanting to keep him around and find out more before they released him.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew View Post
    The LE on the street often has only their observations to go when on the street. Grandpa admitted to being terse and reluctant to give info. That likely made LE suspicious and wanting to keep him around and find out more before they released him.
    Agreed. Refusing to give his name when asked by LE = huge red flag.
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