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    WI - Chad & Melinda Chritton, Joshua Drabek for abuse of 15yo girl, Madison, 2012

    This is breaking/developing case on our local news. Father and stepmother have been arrested:

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    MADISON- The Madison police department is investigating a significant child abuse and neglect case involving a 15-year-old girl.

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    While the rest of the family resided upstairs, she was forced to spend most of her time in the basement, without a bathroom, and being given very little to eat. There was an alarm that would sound if she went upstairs, according to the police report...
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    Here's a post on a public Yahoo group for parents of RAD kids made by the perps, Chad and Melinda Chritton. (They admit she was never diagnosed with RAD.) Notice they complain she was trying to steal food
    We have survalance cameras set up in our home we have 4 cameras in all plus a video baby monitor. We tape my step daughter and yes we have shown her some of her behavior this causes her to hang her head in embrassement. She knows we tape and she knows we have the cameras but after a while you forget they are there. We have had to do this to protect our other children. We also have door locks and alarms and motion detectors. They help us know when she is trying to steal food or sneak anywhere in the house while we are sleeping. She has a LOVE for knieves and to tell us she will kill us. We had to go to these messures to protect our other 3 kids.

    I am not sure showing her them helps much but we have LOTS of tapes to show professionals if they question if it is her or US.......... Sad we have to do this.........

    Thanks for your thoughts.

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    I hope they do have videos of what went on in that home.
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    On their 10 pm news, WISN-12 (Milwaukee channel) showed part of an interview with the man who found her. He said he thought she was about 8 years old, and then she told him she was 15. That's how small she is. I am just disgusted with these parents... of course she was trying to steal food, since they wouldn't give it to her. This poor girl was hungry.

    The man also said that she had burns, cuts, and bruises all over. I wonder how she finally managed to get out?

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    I sent a link to one of the articles to the owner of the support group. The Chrittons are hardly the sort of people who should be giving advice to others about parenting. But it does make me wonder whether support groups of this type have a small number of abusers who are trying to justify their crimes. Might bear looking into.

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    Deplorable!!! Pictures of the monsters here: http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/loc...871e3ce6c.html
    The girl, who weighs about 70 pounds, told authorities she was forced to drink her urine and eat her feces, according to a police affidavit. She said she was forced to live in the basement of the home at 4609 Treichel St. since about 2006, eating only what she could pick off the floor, find in the laundry or take out of the garbage, and that she has been physically injured by both her father and stepmother.

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    This isn't the first time I've seen abusers accuse their victims of "stealing food." If your child eats food without asking, do you consider it stealing? I'm curious about whether someone saying their child "steals" food (instead of, say, "sneaks" food or something like that) might be a sign the child is being abused. How can you steal food in your own home? I could be wrong, but it just seems to show that they don't consider the child as a part of the family. Also, for most people, would a child sneaking food even be considered an issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by STEADFAST View Post
    This isn't the first time I've seen abusers accuse their victims of "stealing food." If your child eats food without asking, do you consider it stealing? I'm curious about whether someone saying their child "steals" food (instead of, say, "sneaks" food or something like that) might be a sign the child is being abused. How can you steal food in your own home? I could be wrong, but it just seems to show that they don't consider the child as a part of the family. Also, for most people, would a child sneaking food even be considered an issue?
    FWIW I don't see that alone as a red flag for abuse. We have a problem with our 11 y/o dd 'stealing' food. I do call it that because she takes it without asking and sneaks it into another room and then conceals the evidence. She's a smart cookie.

    She has three meals and two snacks a day and often dessert. She is deeply, desperately loved but she has a fondness for sweets and salty snacks that are only allowed in moderation and as she is overweight I worry over her health and self-esteem. I buy healthy snacks my kids are welcome to just take - but they do have to ask about stuff not earmarked for them as I cook pretty much everything from scratch and often have ingredients designated for recipes.

    IME abusers will accuse, malign, and denigrate their victims over any imagined offense.

    ETA: In thinking more about it maybe I'm just an overly strict parent since I also keep pointing out we pay the mortgage and as such make the rules. (Some forgiveness here as we're dealing with stroppy pre-pubescence.)

    I so pray this young lady is able to heal and rebuild from unimaginable trauma.

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    I wonder if all children denied food become hoarders? That would be an interesting statistic to see. I suspect it would be a very high percentage. I don't mean cases like BritsKate. I mean like the girl in this case. Starvation type deprivation. I wonder if there is anywhere I could find this information? Anybody know?

    It is so heartbreaking to see a child who has been starved. It is such a hideous form of child abuse with long-ranging consequences for the child. It takes an especially cruel person to refuse food to their child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BritsKate View Post
    FWIW I don't see that alone as a red flag for abuse. We have a problem with our 11 y/o dd 'stealing' food. I do call it that because she takes it without asking and sneaks it into another room and then conceals the evidence. She's a smart cookie.

    She has three meals and two snacks a day and often dessert. She is deeply, desperately loved but she has a fondness for sweets and salty snacks that are only allowed in moderation and as she is overweight I worry over her health and self-esteem. I buy healthy snacks my kids are welcome to just take - but they do have to ask about stuff not earmarked for them as I cook pretty much everything from scratch and often have ingredients designated for recipes.

    IME abusers will accuse, malign, and denigrate their victims over any imagined offense.

    ETA: In thinking more about it maybe I'm just an overly strict parent since I also keep pointing out we pay the mortgage and as such make the rules. (Some forgiveness here as we're dealing with stroppy pre-pubescence.)

    I so pray this young lady is able to heal and rebuild from unimaginable trauma.
    BritsKate - I suspect almost all parents have pulled the mortgage card on their teenagers. The 'my way or the highway' talk. LOL I think your situation is entirely different than this case. You are not starving your child. Your child gets adequate nutrition as well as snacks. You are trying to improve her health by limiting non-nutritious foods. Still, it must be difficult for both of you. Have you addressed this issue with her doctor? He may have some suggestions for resolution. However, I personally wouldn't call it stealing because of the connotations of that word. Possibly sneaking.

    I do believe, for the most part, that the term 'stealing food' tends to be a red flag for abuse. Obviously, not in all cases, but I think it could be used as a yardstick for further investigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STEADFAST View Post
    This isn't the first time I've seen abusers accuse their victims of "stealing food." If your child eats food without asking, do you consider it stealing? I'm curious about whether someone saying their child "steals" food (instead of, say, "sneaks" food or something like that) might be a sign the child is being abused. How can you steal food in your own home? I could be wrong, but it just seems to show that they don't consider the child as a part of the family. Also, for most people, would a child sneaking food even be considered an issue?
    Maybe for some people it's a red flag, but in our house, we have food thieves. There's no other word for it. My middle boys will go to great lengths to get things they aren't supposed to have, and even greater lengths to hide the evidence that they did it.

    It might seem like a non-issue, but when you have kids that won't eat a decent meal because they are constantly snacking, or kids like my middle son that eat until they vomit, it becomes an issue.

    Of course, stealing food is not something that you handle by restricting a kid to what they can dig from the trash. In this case, it's pretty obvious why she was stealing food. I would too, in that situation. But just because a parent says that a kid is stealing food doesn't immediately set off red flags. An extremely malnourished 15 year old that has to live in the basement sets off every red flag, though.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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    Dr. Barbara Knox of American Family Children's Hospital told police the malnutrition the girl suffered "poses a significant risk of death" and that chronic starvation had caused her puberty to be arrested, the affidavit states. Knox also said that because of the starvation and severe malnutrition, the girl would be at high risk for other disorders and complications that can lead to death.

    Perry Ecton, CEO of Habitat for Humanity of Dane County, confirmed Monday evening that Melinda Drabek had applied with Habitat in 2004 and closed on the home in December 2005 as a single mother with two boys. Ecton said there was no mention of a girl in the application to his knowledge and that Chad Chritton was referenced in the application as the "father of one of the boys and a friend —not living in the home."

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    Thanks to BritsKate and NMK for the information. It kind of changes my opinion of 'stealing food' being a red flag. This is not something I have ever dealt with, so am lacking personal knowledge. Thanks for enlightening me.
    Forum: Jury Room
    Thread: Most interesting classic unsolved murder cases

    This thread currently has over 350 cases with a brief synopsis of each and we are still adding additional cases.

    You can access a spreadsheet that lists the cases in alphabetical order with the page & post number so that you can locate a particular case you may be interested in. It also contains links to any cases that already have a thread on WS.

    Many cases do not have a thread. Please feel free to start one in the appropriate forum if you would like to look into one. Should you start a thread on one of these cases, please let me know so that I can add the link to the spreadsheet.

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    Here is the link for the spreadsheet in country order:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FBBcGVid0lmUHc
    =======================================

    Forum: Jury Room
    Thread: Cold But Not Too Old Murder Case List

    This is a listing of newer but still cold cases. As with the above thread we will be adding as we go along. Most of these cases will probably have threads. If you do start a new one, please let me know so I can add the link to the spreadsheets. The spreadsheets may be accessed from the links below.

    Here is the link for the spreadsheet in alphabetical order:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...mlNV2lSQ1dDWHc

    Here is the link for the spreadsheet in country order:
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    It used to set off warning bells for me too, but once my son started coming down from his room at night and throwing up things that I knew we hadn't fed him, it sort of changed my opinion. We had to search every inch of his room, and we found things that he had hidden in his room that rotted and he ate anyway, as well as all kinds of junk food, which explained why he wasn't eating meals, but was never seeming to be hungry. He was getting up before anyone else in the house, taking food, hiding it in his room, and then intentionally getting in trouble to get sent to his room, so he could eat it...

    I think the difference here is that when I found out my kid was stealing food, and hoarding all kinds of junk in his room, I felt like a terrible parent. Apparently, these parents did not, instead they saw a horrible child. What makes me nervous and sets off my flags about a family is wen I see one child that is obviously scapegoated...that's when I worry it may eventually turn into a situation like this.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.

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