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    CY's pajamas did have little blood splotches on them. It was not very visible due to the pattern on the pink PJ's, but IIRC, there was some of MY's blood on those PJ's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeleine74 View Post
    CY's pajamas did have little blood splotches on them. It was not very visible due to the pattern on the pink PJ's, but IIRC, there was some of MY's blood on those PJ's.
    The PJs were washed, but no laundry was done there. So someone took the girl, washed her and her pajamas, then brought her back. That doesn't fit into the timeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jova33 View Post
    The PJs were washed, but no laundry was done there. So someone took the girl, washed her and her pajamas, then brought her back. That doesn't fit into the timeline.

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    CY saw her daddy kill her mommy. Don't ya think if someone else was there she would have told the Young's?

    C'mon they kept her away from the Fisher's forever. Obvisously there was a reason why. If anyone else besides JY had been there the Young's would have blasted that from the mountain tops of Brevard! Please stop referring to MF as having anything to do with her sister's murder. That's rude. The real killer is behind bars where he will stay!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landonsmom02 View Post
    CY saw her daddy kill her mommy. Don't ya think if someone else was there she would have told the Young's?

    C'mon they kept her away from the Fisher's forever. Obvisously there was a reason why. If anyone else besides JY had been there the Young's would have blasted that from the mountain tops of Brevard! Please stop referring to MF as having anything to do with her sister's murder. That's rude. The real killer is behind bars where he will stay!
    CY never said that. She never mentioned a name. And MF was never investigated. JY was the only one ever investigated. I was just throwing out an alternative theory.
    Who else had the time and the means to commit the crime?

    JY did not have the time to drive back to his house, murder his wife, take himself and his daughter to another location to clean up and do laundry, all without getting a drop of blood in his vehicle, return to his house, drug his daughter, and then make it back to the hotel and check out. The fuel receipts don't add up to the gas mileage.

    On top of that, the decisions from the civil court hearings shouldn't have been presented as evidence against him in the second trial.


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    Please provide a link or source for the fact stated "the PJs were washed." I recall no such thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeleine74 View Post
    Please provide a link or source for the fact stated "the PJs were washed." I recall no such thing.
    I'm looking, but from what I can find is the pajamas were visibly clean, but chemical testing for blood was found on the legs and butt. Did she sit down in the blood? http://youtu.be/TZpBxt2lc84

    Edit: I don't see how the clothes could test positive for blood, but not have any blood visible unless they were cleaned.

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    Also, http://youtu.be/ICja7WFUYgs , partial match DNA to MY. Partial match suggests possible blood relative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jova33 View Post
    CY never said that. She never mentioned a name. And MF was never investigated. JY was the only one ever investigated. I was just throwing out an alternative theory.
    Who else had the time and the means to commit the crime?

    JY did not have the time to drive back to his house, murder his wife, take himself and his daughter to another location to clean up and do laundry, all without getting a drop of blood in his vehicle, return to his house, drug his daughter, and then make it back to the hotel and check out. The fuel receipts don't add up to the gas mileage.

    On top of that, the decisions from the civil court hearings shouldn't have been presented as evidence against him in the second trial.


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    Bolonga!! MF was investigated and she cooperated from the get go with LEO. Again, as I have asked before, please go back to 2006 and read everything you can on this case. I have been with this since the begininng and even attended trial in Raleigh. JY commited this crime and he is where he belongs.

    The fuel is easily explained.......he paid cash in King, NC!

    Can we please let Michelle Marie Fisher Young and sweet baby Rylan RIP! Justice was served!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landonsmom02 View Post
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    Bolonga!! MF was investigated and she cooperated from the get go with LEO. Again, as I have asked before, please go back to 2006 and read everything you can on this case. I have been with this since the begininng and even attended trial in Raleigh. JY commited this crime and he is where he belongs.

    The fuel is easily explained.......he paid cash in King, NC!

    Can we please let Michelle Marie Fisher Young and sweet baby Rylan RIP! Justice was served!
    http://youtu.be/--Olb3pkoLw
    Even if he bought gas there, it wasn't a full tank. And if he did it, why would he blow a meticulously planned and calculated down to the minute murder to argue with a gas station attendant?

    The only evidence presented at the second trial not in the first trial was the civil trial rulings and the daycare worker's testimony. Neither should've been used as evidence against him.

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    JLY has anger and impulse issues. Why did he throw a remote control device at his pregnant wife? (that's in testimony, btw).

    He had no idea how thorough LE would be, that they would literally go to the gas stations on his alleged route and follow up to that level. Most spousal killers never think anyone will care about or take the investigation to the level they often do, because in the killer's mind his/her spouse is worthless and not important.

    Well surprise! LE often does go the extra mile (pun intended) and they do use resources and they will track down leads and talk to people.

    Jason wasn't expecting to have to go inside any gas station; that was definitely not part of his "meticulous" plan. He didn't know this gas station turns off the pumps and a customer can only pay by cash inside at that time of the early morning (5:30am-ish). Guess his meticulous plan wasn't so meticulous afterall. He encountered an unknown situation where he either had to go inside and pay cash OR use his credit card. He had to get gas by that point.

    Well he certainly couldn't use his credit card and after 3 attempts to turn on the pump he had no choice. He was pizzed off by that. And he snapped at someone he thought was "no one," threw his $20 bill at her, left without getting his $5 change back (which no one ever does normally). And she remembered him. She remembered how he treated her because in her 5 months of working at the station, that is not how customers treated her except for one time when a drunk woman came storming into the station. (this is all in testimony, btw).

    Jason and his temper went off that morning and he got himself noticed. Not only was he noticed, but the gas station attendant knew that this guy was driving a light colored SUV and had pulled to the furthest gas pump from the office. She noticed his vehicle too and was able to relay that factoid to cops without anyone prompting her (again, this is in testimony).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Madeleine74 View Post
    JLY has anger and impulse issues. Why did he throw a remote control device at his pregnant wife? (that's in testimony, btw).

    He had no idea how thorough LE would be, that they would literally go to the gas stations on his alleged route and follow up to that level. Most spousal killers never think anyone will care about or take the investigation to the level they often do, because in the killer's mind his/her spouse is worthless and not important.

    Well surprise! LE often does go the extra mile (pun intended) and they do use resources and they will track down leads and talk to people.

    Jason wasn't expecting to have to go inside any gas station; that was definitely not part of his "meticulous" plan. He didn't know this gas station turns off the pumps and a customer can only pay by cash inside at that time of the early morning (5:30am-ish). Guess his meticulous plan wasn't so meticulous afterall. He encountered an unknown situation where he either had to go inside and pay cash OR use his credit card. He had to get gas by that point.

    Well he certainly couldn't use his credit card and after 3 attempts to turn on the pump he had no choice. He was pizzed off by that. And he snapped at someone he thought was "no one," threw his $20 bill at her, left without getting his $5 change back (which no one ever does normally). And she remembered him. She remembered how he treated her because in her 5 months of working at the station, that is not how customers treated her except for one time when a drunk woman came storming into the station. (this is all in testimony, btw).

    Jason and his temper went off that morning and he got himself noticed. Not only was he noticed, but the gas station attendant knew that this guy was driving a light colored SUV and had pulled to the furthest gas pump from the office. She noticed his vehicle too and was able to relay that factoid to cops without anyone prompting her (again, this is in testimony).
    Please, anyone who has pumped gas this millennia knows you have to pay before you pump. I used to gas 'n go constantly until they made it policy to pay before you pump. It sounds more like some drunk guy went in there and she improperly IDed JY after being shown his picture.
    Edit: also, view the gas mileage video I linked.

    Washing his daughter's clothes still doesn't fit into that timeline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jova33 View Post
    Please, anyone who has pumped gas this millennia knows you have to pay before you pump. I used to gas 'n go constantly until they made it policy to pay before you pump. It sounds more like some drunk guy went in there and she improperly IDed JY after being shown his picture.
    Edit: also, view the gas mileage video I linked.

    Washing his daughter's clothes still doesn't fit into that timeline.

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    Do you live in NC? In rural area like this there are still "mom and pop" type gas stations. The only reason they were turned off during those hours is because of drive offs and the attendants had to pay for that out of their paychecks. JY was going to pump and go......IMO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Landonsmom02 View Post
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    Do you live in NC? In rural area like this there are still "mom and pop" type gas stations. The only reason they were turned off during those hours is because of drive offs and the attendants had to pay for that out of their paychecks. JY was going to pump and go......IMO!
    For someone who travels a lot for business, he would've known not every gas station will have their pumps on. A majority of gas stations were pay before you pump by 2006.
    Also, the gas mileage doesn't add up. The timeline doesn't add up. Only one eyewitness who identified him after being shown only his picture, and no others, puts him anywhere outside the hotel. There's no evidence connecting him to the crime, but there is evidence that someone else was there. Unidentified DNA, hair, and shoe prints.

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    Claiming what JLY should have known about a gas station's policy at 5:30am is really not valid. JLY usually (if not always) paid for gas by credit card because he had no reason to hide his driving activity before. Plus he was traveling on business and would need to track his expenses for reimbursement.

    Everything adds up. All of it. He did a lot of clever things, got lucky in some areas, popped his attitude at the wrong time (oops). He got caught, he got nailed. The timeline works, the mileage worked out, his behaviors, the hinky things at the Hampton Inn. He is guilty as guilty gets. Thank goodness he's right where he belongs.

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    BREAKING NEWS TUESDAY 4/1/14

    The North Carolina Court of Appeals has ordered a new murder trial for Jason Young, who was convicted two years ago of beating his pregnant wife to death in their Wake County home.

    Follow the latest developments at http://www.wral.com/12706857/?break_id=9278
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