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    UT - Police seek armed mountain man, called a 'time bomb'

    Mountain man on the loose: Armed recluse has eluded capture for five years as he
    breaks into remote cabins, eats food, steals provisions and sneaks off into the wild
    (Daily Mail)
    He's eluded authorities for more than five years, a mountain man who roams the wilderness of southern Utah, breaking into remote cabins in winter, living in luxury off hot food, alcohol and coffee before stealing provisions and vanishing into the woods.

    Investigators have clawed for clues, scouring cabins for fingerprints that match no one and chasing reports of brief encounters only to come up short, always a step behind the mysterious recluse.

    They've found abandoned camps, dozens of guns, high-end outdoor gear stolen from the homes and trash strewn around the forest floor.
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    He's roamed across 1,000 square miles of rugged wilderness where snow can pile 10 feet deep in winter.
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    "Time bomb," eh?
    But the man authorities say is armed and dangerous and responsible for more than two dozen burglaries has continued to outrun the law across a swath of mountains not far from Zion National Park.

    And while there have been no violent confrontations, detectives say he's a time bomb. Lately he has been leaving the cabins in disarray and riddled with bullets after defacing religious icons, and a recent note left behind in one cabin warned, 'Get off my mountain.'
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    much more, quite interesting, and with pictures, at link above


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    Great, he sounds like a cross between Ted Kacyznski, Eric Rudolph, and the Barefoot Bandit.

    Hope he's apprehended before he hurts someone.


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    Wilderness version of homeless.

    I'm wondering if this guy might schizophrenic or something. The way he avoids people, defaces religious items, and is so erratic. He actually looks pretty young. I'd guess mid to late 20's. Someone has to know this guy.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    I would argue against the schizophrenia theory. This guy is good. He is able to maintain himself not just while in a cabin, but through long stretches in the wilderness, without getting turned around, hurt, or becoming sick enough that he dies or needs to reach out for help. He has been seen only a handful of times, and obviously doesn't wish for human contact.

    Personally, I think that he defaces religious icons due to a percieved wrong. Could be the loss of a home or job that led to his living in the woods in the first place. Could be that he prayed for his company not to close, his wife not to leave, his home not to be foreclosed on, and those unanswered prayers just led to a lot of anger. I think he destroys some cabins based on nothing more than what he sees in the cabins. I would think it is likely those that live modestly and don't have religious or government affiliations that do not have their homes totally destroyed. Those that he did destroy were chosen because of what he saw once he was inside.

    Call me crazy, I wouldn't be carrying a gun, I would be leaving him care packages, maybe it would keep him out of the cabin, try to establish a little human connection with the guy, and try to lure him off the mountain. I think that's their best hope. The guy is obviously much better at hiding than LE is at seeking, and he's not coming down until he gets damn good and ready. I think LE might be just a wee bit irritated at their own failure to catch him, and making him out to be worse than he really is. I wouldn't be able to be that frightened of the guy. He doesn't wish to have societal interaction, through crime or anything else. He takes what he needs, expresses himself (vulgarly at times), and then goes back to the woods. I don't see him turning rapist or murderer now, UNLESS the media, which he undoubtedly does have access to, and LE, paint him as a potential killer and horrible monster.
    JMO. Unless there's a link, I can't prove it.


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    Another character who has been in the woods, albeit in the Welsh woods, for years - no reports of him carrying a gun though, which in itself makes for a striking contrast between the United Kingdom and the United States:

    Police hunt "Wales wolfman" in Pantyffynon Woods - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
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    I think he is at the very least into his thirties, judging by the photos.
    Just my opinion


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    Yeah, he looks to be at least 33-34.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mysteriew View Post
    Wilderness version of homeless.

    I'm wondering if this guy might schizophrenic or something. The way he avoids people, defaces religious items, and is so erratic. He actually looks pretty young. I'd guess mid to late 20's. Someone has to know this guy.
    I am thinking he is more has paranoid or antisocial personality disorder. He probably is an injustice collector as he likely as major issues, likely stems from personal issues. He could of lost a job recently, foreclosure, or had some issues with family or relationships.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HMSHood View Post
    I am thinking he is more has paranoid or antisocial personality disorder. He probably is an injustice collector as he likely as major issues, likely stems from personal issues. He could of lost a job recently, foreclosure, or had some issues with family or relationships.
    He's been out there for five years so very unlikely he had lost a job recently. If he is out there all alone for that long his mental state could be deteriorating because humans are social animals.
    Just my opinion


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    From the articles I guess there is a theory floating around that he may be one of the "lost boys" from the FLDS. I wonder if anyone has ever thought to leave some of the newspapers from the time period where they were busted lying around? It might be interesting for him. If he is a "lost boy" it could possibly even lure him out. Brochures from the lost boys group might be helpful too.

    If he is a lost boy and if he doesn't end up harming anyone, I would almost be willing to see him get by with what he has done so far, as long as he would agree to get help.
    Just when I think that I have seen the most depraved things a human can do to another human, somebody posts a new story...........

    Why is it that when a custodial parent fails to provide for a child it is called neglect and is a criminal matter. But when a non custodial parent fails to provide it is called failure to support and is a civil matter?


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    How does he survive in the winter? One photo has him with snow shoes.

    It always fascinates me how these guys can elude authorities for so long. Like the Barefoot Bandit as an example. I wish they would put their "skills" into doing something positive rather than causing havoc and terror.


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    I don't believe for a second this is a "lost boy." For one, he appears to be at the very least in his thirties. For other, he reportedly has all these guns, and I don't think FLDS is that much into guns.
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    This is fascinating. Besides the theory he is a former FLDS member, investigators are looking at two fugitives, both appear to be older than their 30's though. One is Robert William Fisher who slit the throats of his wife and two children and then blew up his house after his wife threatened a divorce. Remind you of anyone? I wonder if the coward who murdered Susan Powell and her sons knew about this guy:

    Robert William Fisher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Here's a few pictures of him:





    http://www.fugitivehunter.org/wanted2.html

    Another is Jason Derek Brown who killed an armored truck driver in 2004. He looks suspiciously like Sean Penn to me:



    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329367,00.html (other pictures and video at link).

    Both men are avid outdoorsmen and Brown has connections to Utah, Fisher to Arizona, which is very close. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46427869/ns/us_news-life/

    I think Fisher looks most like the fugitive:



    (Picture from above link).

    But, the eyes look more like Brown's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    I don't believe for a second this is a "lost boy." For one, he appears to be at the very least in his thirties. For other, he reportedly has all these guns, and I don't think FLDS is that much into guns.
    Well, there have been Lost Boys for decades. So it is possible he's one. The term applies to boys who have been kicked out of the cult. But when they grow up, they are still deemed to be Lost boys. I hope that makes sense!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gitana1 View Post
    This is fascinating. Besides the theory he is a former FLDS member, investigators are looking at two fugitives, both appear to be older than their 30's though. One is Robert William Fisher who slit the throats of his wife and two children and then blew up his house after his wife threatened a divorce. Remind you of anyone? I wonder if the coward who murdered Susan Powell and her sons knew about this guy: Robert William Fisher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Here's a few pictures of him:





    http://www.fugitivehunter.org/wanted2.html

    Another is Jason Derek Brown who killed an armored truck driver in 2004. He looks suspiciously like Sean Penn to me:



    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,329367,00.html (other pictures and video at link).

    Both men are avid outdoorsmen and Brown has connections to Utah, Fisher to Arizona, which is very close. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46427869/ns/us_news-life/

    I think Fisher looks most like the fugitive:



    (Picture from above link).

    But, the eyes look more like Brown's.

    Caveat: haven't a clue about this. Have read nothing. Photos caught my attention. So this is just FWIW - from a first glance.

    If we're trying to match up the snow shoe pix to Fisher or Brown -

    First, The snowshoe dude looks on the young side.

    Second - Not seeing the pronounced Adam's apple belonging to Fisher. Not feeling the eyebrows of Brown on snowshoe dude.

    Third - Fisher has some ... double chin ... a little bit ... going on. Snowshoe dude - not so much.

    Fourth - The forehead - you've said "eyes" - but the forehead's different - Brown's being more pronounced.

    Fifth - Upper lip. Snowshoe guy looks to have a thin upper lip. Not so much on Fisher, but yes on Brown.

    So all of that might make me lean more to Brown?


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