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  1. #451
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    Some wondered if Brewer called SG or Pak to arrange a date. Watch the 48 hr video above. Its shows SG phone log. No incoming call from Brewer. I think Brewer called Paks phone. Brewer would have known SG had a driver.

  2. #452
    I wish there was a way for sex workers in Florida to know who they are dealing with with this bad apple. Regardless of the circumstances, if I was a sex worker, I'd think twice before providing services for a man that solicited sex from a sex worker that became so terrified she ran from his place in fear of her life, called 911 allegedly proclaiming "they're trying to kill me!", and then ended up dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpio_sleuth View Post
    I wish there was a way for sex workers in Florida to know who they are dealing with with this bad apple. Regardless of the circumstances, if I was a sex worker, I'd think twice before providing services for a man that solicited sex from a sex worker that became so terrified she ran from his place in fear of her life, called 911 allegedly proclaiming "they're trying to kill me!", and then ended up dead.
    Somewhere in all these threads, "client/customer/John" review sites were briefly discussed. At that time, I think some required payment which we determined might prevent sex workers from utilizing the sites. I still think these sites could possibly hold valuable information... and it's possibly worth looking into again. There may be new (and hopefully reliable) websites being used by sex workers.

    Also, there was a recent WS radio/podcast show... can't remember details but there is an organization (New Mexico, Arizona, ??) that has been helping sex workers. I don't have time this morning to look it up but I hope someone knows who/what I'm struggling to identify.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scorpio_sleuth View Post
    I wish there was a way for sex workers in Florida to know who they are dealing with with this bad apple. Regardless of the circumstances, if I was a sex worker, I'd think twice before providing services for a man that solicited sex from a sex worker that became so terrified she ran from his place in fear of her life, called 911 allegedly proclaiming "they're trying to kill me!", and then ended up dead.
    Yes, there should be a legitimate way to review clients as there is a way to review workers.

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  5. #455
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    Here's the name/organization I was trying to remember in my previous post. (not exactly a client review but similar and fascinating effort, imo)

    Christine Barber - Street Safe New Mexico - The Bad Guy List

    http://www.streetsafenm.com/

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    I’m so glad someone did a post on Brewer! In every single article I’ve ever read he’s basically just brushed right past. Which IMO, is completely senseless! He is by FAR the best and most likely suspect! Everybody’s excuse for clearing him is always “He doesn’t match the killers M.O., Shannon had a driver and that doesn’t fit with the other cases since they were always told to come alone...” etc... So what does that mean? Brewer doesn’t pick up exports without killing them? I can guarantee you that LISK hasn’t murdered every escort he’s ever dated. I’m absolutely positive that the killer has had dates where the escort had a driver and to think otherwise is just plain stupid and shows a lack of real thought about LISK’s motives and and actions. If I was a detective working this case I would want to know ANY and EVERY john living in a 20 mile circle of Oak Beach that had ever picked up a escort off of the internet and they’d be prime suspects. And what do you know, there happens to be one living right in the epicenter of where all the bodies where found. Brewer. And then he has a escort run from his house screaming for her life, scared literally to death that shes about to be murdered. I mean its either the biggest coincidence in true crime history, or this guy did something to her to scare the hell out of her and make her fear for her life.
    Then she DIES! And its thought that she drowned! In under 2’ of water (if there really was even that much in there at that time which I highly doubt)! I mean she could have just sat up and she would have been fine. So death by drowning; absolutely not a possibility. And then I’ve read she died by exposure. That’s almost as laughable as the drowning! In that warm of weather! Not possible, she would have died from thirst first Before succumbing to exposure. Nope, my guess is that she died from a heart attack after being drugged by Brewer while she was running for her life, scared shitless. Or she died from just being drugged. Brewer either gave her something disguised as something else or he spiked one of her drinks with something.
    He’s the guy! I’d bet my house on it. If you just stand back and really think about what kind of guy you’re looking for, he matches almost to a T.
    The first murder (known) took place in 1996 so we know he be between the ages of 35 and 55.
    He’s white.
    He’s always picking up escorts or having them come out to him.
    He lives (or works) close by. He feels safe and comfortable dropping his victims there so he knows the area very well, in which case he most likely lives there (or had lived there in the past).
    He’s strong.
    He most likely is successful or at least the girls believe he is and that he has a lot of money and thats why he needs the girls to be

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    Brewer would not ask Pak to get Shannan out if he wanted her dead.

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    Keep in mind the person that 'cleared' Brewer has just been indicted for obstruction of justice and other crimes. I am talking about Tom Spota and the head of what they like call the DA's corruption bureau, Chris McPartland.

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    Brewer may be involved with Shannan's death, however there is no evidence Brewer had any contact with Shannan after she left his house.

    Remember Shannan may not be a victim of the LISK. The LISK could be one individual, and the person or persons who caused Shannan's death may be somebody else.

  10. #460
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    Quote Originally Posted by redbundy View Post
    Iím so glad someone did a post on Brewer! In every single article Iíve ever read heís basically just brushed right past. Which IMO, is completely senseless! He is by FAR the best and most likely suspect! Everybodyís excuse for clearing him is always ďHe doesnít match the killers M.O., Shannon had a driver and that doesnít fit with the other cases since they were always told to come alone...Ē etc... So what does that mean? Brewer doesnít pick up exports without killing them? I can guarantee you that LISK hasnít murdered every escort heís ever dated. Iím absolutely positive that the killer has had dates where the escort had a driver and to think otherwise is just plain stupid and shows a lack of real thought about LISKís motives and and actions. If I was a detective working this case I would want to know ANY and EVERY john living in a 20 mile circle of Oak Beach that had ever picked up a escort off of the internet and theyíd be prime suspects. And what do you know, there happens to be one living right in the epicenter of where all the bodies where found. Brewer. And then he has a escort run from his house screaming for her life, scared literally to death that shes about to be murdered. I mean its either the biggest coincidence in true crime history, or this guy did something to her to scare the hell out of her and make her fear for her life.
    Then she DIES! And its thought that she drowned! In under 2í of water (if there really was even that much in there at that time which I highly doubt)! I mean she could have just sat up and she would have been fine. So death by drowning; absolutely not a possibility. And then Iíve read she died by exposure. Thatís almost as laughable as the drowning! In that warm of weather! Not possible, she would have died from thirst first Before succumbing to exposure. Nope, my guess is that she died from a heart attack after being drugged by Brewer while she was running for her life, scared shitless. Or she died from just being drugged. Brewer either gave her something disguised as something else or he spiked one of her drinks with something.
    Heís the guy! Iíd bet my house on it. If you just stand back and really think about what kind of guy youíre looking for, he matches almost to a T.
    The first murder (known) took place in 1996 so we know he be between the ages of 35 and 55.
    Heís white.
    Heís always picking up escorts or having them come out to him.
    He lives (or works) close by. He feels safe and comfortable dropping his victims there so he knows the area very well, in which case he most likely lives there (or had lived there in the past).
    Heís strong.
    He most likely is successful or at least the girls believe he is and that he has a lot of money and thats why he needs the girls to be
    There is the blue man glowing from brewer. He was my first poi. I dont like that man.

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  11. #461
    Quote Originally Posted by fred&edna View Post
    Somewhere in all these threads, "client/customer/John" review sites were briefly discussed. At that time, I think some required payment which we determined might prevent sex workers from utilizing the sites. I still think these sites could possibly hold valuable information... and it's possibly worth looking into again. There may be new (and hopefully reliable) websites being used by sex workers.

    Also, there was a recent WS radio/podcast show... can't remember details but there is an organization (New Mexico, Arizona, ??) that has been helping sex workers. I don't have time this morning to look it up but I hope someone knows who/what I'm struggling to identify.
    In regards to reviewing clients There is usely you just do a review on the client based on his number. So you would have the clients number they called on and then review that number, thatís usely how it is done. Unfortunately a lot of girls donít care they just get out of there if there is a issue and on to the next with out reporting the number, there is a lot of flaws as you can imagine with that system of review and itís rarely done,

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