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    That baby sure seemed to have a lot of 'accidents' before the fatal fall. The mother talks about life insurance, but to collect it, they wouldn't have hidden the body, right? They don't pay if someone is 'missing'. So, I don't really see a motive there. I really think Ayla fell down the stairs, again... this time unnoticed. The only one home was CF busy upstairs with another child, while Ayla went downstairs looking for Daddy. I think she died of a head wound in her fathers bedroom and CF covered it up. By the time she realized, the baby was obviously deceased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detective Klimpt View Post
    Here's why I find that odd, and I hope I can articulate my thoughts without sounding like I'm being rude or picking on Trista. First, I can understand why LE doesn't release all information to the public. However, releasing information to Trista presents a high risk that the information will be released to the public via her. That's already happened, right? Same goes for private info they give to the other POI's, except they aren't talking. Also, I'm probably being dense, but if the victim (Trista) knows a lot of unreleased details and the DiPietro's (who are considered suspects whether LE came out and said it or not) know a lot of unreleased details, then what harm is there in releasing those details to the public?

    I guess the question is "does the public have a right to know" certain things. It would be nice to at least know what the DiPietro's gave as a story for what happened that night and why LE thinks it is false or has information withheld. The only info the public has been given is what we learned from Angela Harry's blog. I'd like to know precisely why LE has discounted the abduction theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Detective Klimpt View Post
    BBE. Ok, I'm playing devil's advocate a bit now with my post. They *should*, according to you and those that think like you. Let us assume that the DiPietro's are innocent, as hard as that may be for the majority to assume. Now let us assume that LE thinks they are guilty of something, which appears to be the case. For the DiPietro's and CR to come out talking to the media or to open questions by LE, puts them in a position where everything they say can get twisted or misinterpreted and could eventually end up with them getting arrested and even found guilty and sent to jail. Now...most of you will say something like "well, if it was my child that was missing, I wouldn't care about myself or going to jail. I would just do everything I could and talk to everyone in hopes to find her". Well, not everyone thinks like that. If these people are innocent, why risk going to jail when nothing they can say or do can help get Ayla back? This same opinion applies to the Bradley case and probably others that I don't follow as well.

    Maybe I've watched too many true life interrogations on TV to know just how brutal LE can be. If an innocent person has been subjected to that, I can see why they would not want to endure it again.


    From being here on Websleuths for many years and reading and watching countless books and shows about crime, usually the silent people are the ones who have the most to lose from talking - such as their freedom.

    Not everyone is idealistic and brave. Some people care very much if they are in danger of going to jail. Some people are selfish, it would seem. Some people just aren't that honest on a good day.

    And in some ways, the DiPietros have tried to "speak" through surrogates on blogs and things like that, but it has backfired and raised even more questions. A more straightforward approach just doesn't seem to occur to them.

    So I think all of those reasons can explain the deafening silence we have on the DiPietro side.

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    I watched a program tonight called 11 most Criminal women, or something similar. And I noticed a detective explaining why one particular suspect eluded being arrested for 8 years even though there was a large large LARGE amount of circumstantial evidence...

    1. no motive
    2. no murder weapon
    3. no body


    .....and I couldn't help but think about us here, slaving over keyboards, and messages, and pings, and suspects.


    Just thought maybe you all would like to think like a detective/lawyer/judge for a moment. It made ME stop and think, anyway.


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    I watched a program tonight called 11 most Criminal women, or something similar. And I noticed a detective explaining why one particular suspect eluded being arrested for 8 years even though there was a large large LARGE amount of circumstantial evidence...

    1. no motive
    2. no murder weapon
    3. no body


    .....and I couldn't help but think about us here, slaving over keyboards, and messages, and pings, and suspects.


    Just thought maybe you all would like to think like a detective/lawyer/judge for a moment. It made ME stop and think, anyway.... I mean, that IS the reason we hunt them down like the dogs they are, for justice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Detective Klimpt View Post
    BBE. Ok, I'm playing devil's advocate a bit now with my post. They *should*, according to you and those that think like you. Let us assume that the DiPietro's are innocent, as hard as that may be for the majority to assume. Now let us assume that LE thinks they are guilty of something, which appears to be the case. For the DiPietro's and CR to come out talking to the media or to open questions by LE, puts them in a position where everything they say can get twisted or misinterpreted and could eventually end up with them getting arrested and even found guilty and sent to jail. Now...most of you will say something like "well, if it was my child that was missing, I wouldn't care about myself or going to jail. I would just do everything I could and talk to everyone in hopes to find her". Well, not everyone thinks like that. If these people are innocent, why risk going to jail when nothing they can say or do can help get Ayla back? This same opinion applies to the Bradley case and probably others that I don't follow as well.

    Maybe I've watched too many true life interrogations on TV to know just how brutal LE can be. If an innocent person has been subjected to that, I can see why they would not want to endure it again.
    But it comes down to avoidance behavior. People avoid what they fear. It's actually very insightful to what people may be thinking. What is the bigger fear?

    In cases like this one and in Lisa Irwin's, what do people fear more? Going to jail, or never knowing what happened to their child? A good example of that is the Dirk Schiller case. His mother went to prison in East Germany for years, because the fear of not knowing what happened to her child was greater than going to prison. It's a matter of priority.

    In this case, it's apparent that Trista's fear of not knowing where or what happened to Ayla out weighs her fear of ending up in prison. If she is innocent of any wrong doing, then her fear of going to prison is most likely small, and really not knowing where Ayla is is most likely huge. . .actually probably all consuming.

    From Justin's behavior it would seem that his fear of going to prison is greater than his fear of not knowing what happened to Ayla. It's easy to follow the logic. If he knows what happened to Ayla and he was responsible in some way, then it would be logical that he would fear getting caught and going to prison. It would also be logical that his fear of not knowing what happened to Ayla would be non-existent because he would already KNOW what happened to Ayla.

    I think it is why so many people say things like, "If my child disappeared, I would. . ." Because people can imagine how horrible the anxiety and fear of not knowing where or what is happening to your child would be. That fear would be so traumatic and all consuming that everything else would pale in comparison, including being falsely accused, arrested, tried and sent to prison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hambirg View Post
    I think it is why so many people say things like, "If my child disappeared, I would. . ." Because people can imagine how horrible the anxiety and fear of not knowing where or what is happening to your child would be. That fear would be so traumatic and all consuming that everything else would pale in comparison, including being falsely accused, arrested, tried and sent to prison.

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    If one of my boys vanished I'd be dead inside. Prison wouldn't matter anymore. In fact, I'd gladly go to prison, innocent and all, if it increased the chances of my boy being found. I would not hesitate even a second to trade my life for my kids' lives.
    I am not saying this out of self glorification or anything. In fact, I would wager most moms/dads would feel the same actually. Thankfully. Or we might have even more weird cases than we do now.
    In any event.
    Agreeing with your above post Hambirg.
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    hambirg and kavya ~ I completely agree. I can say without a doubt that if my child or grandchild were missing I would fall apart. I would plead for that child. I would do anything LE asked of me, without hesitation. I also cannot say that I would have the courage and strength to go on living. The not knowing wouild be the ultimate form of torture. The fears, the thoughts of my loved one suffering would be unbearable. My days and nights would be an endless nightmare, while the damn clocks would tick-tock without knowing something was wrong in my world. My feeling of complete helplessness would probably be more than my mind could tolerate.
    My heart aches for those who have had to suffer through such an ordeal. Loving parents react instinctively. I think a parent who would never harm their child would not hesitate to beg and plead, offer anything, to get their child back. Forget the weak excuses about being shy, too distraught or whatever JD claimed. When it is your child, if you care, you stand up and speak out for that child. You have to. It's your child. You don't hide, hire an attorney, let others speak for you. Well, not if you have nothing to hide...............
    Sorry, but this is IMHO


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    Sorry to be Off-Topic here

    BUT, I thought I would post this since it is so close to Waterville ... AND ... "drug related" ...


    snipped from : http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/2...ref=relatedBox

    “It’s a drug-related homicide,” said Stephen McCausland, spokesman for the Maine Department of Public Safety.


    Wow ... Mr. McCausland certainly has his "hands full" : Ayla's case and now this !


    snippets from : http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/2...s-but-no-body/


    BELFAST, Maine — Blood drops and skull fragments found in a Jackson home led police to arrest Daniel Porter, 24, of Bangor in the case of a missing firefighter from Florida, according to new information from Waldo County Superior Court.

    The police report in the murder of Jerry Perdomo, 31, of Florida, was released Wednesday morning.

    Police arrested Porter on Tuesday afternoon and called the case a drug-related homicide.



    There is a thread here at WS for Jerry : Found Deceased FL - Jerry Perdomo, Orange City, 15 Feb 2012 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community



    Oh, I do NOT believe there is a "connection" -- BUT -- the drugs -- this is a serious problem that is absolutely out of control ...

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    Whoops just figured it out - AH is Angela Harry who runs the blog and Facebook "This Little Light of Maine."

    She is a friend of the DiPietros and has explained their story several different ways, even going on the record in the MSM several times.

    http://www.kjonline.com/news/website...012-01-23.html

    ETA:

    TR - Trista Reynolds, Ayla's mother

    PD - Phoebe DiPietro, Ayla's grandmother

    People in Waterville House the night Ayla Disappeared:

    JD - Justin DiPietro, Ayla's father
    ED - Elisha DiPietro, Ayla's Aunt
    GD - G. DiPietro, Elisha's baby/Ayla's cousin
    CR - Courtney Roberts - Justin's girlfriend
    (Also Courtney Roberts child)

    LD - Lance DiPietro, Ayla's Uncle, arrested for street-beating of . . .
    JL - Justin Linnel, father of G. DiPietro

    BR - Briana Roberts, Courtney's sister, arrested in drug bust
    Mentioned Here - Nancy Grace Transcript

    AH - Angela Harry, blogger and friend of DiPietros
    Mentioned Here and Here

    DT - Derek Tudela, State Farm Agent - sold Ayla's life insurance
    HD - Heidi Tudela, mother of Derek (cousin of Angela Harry?)
    Mentioned On Yahoo News - Life Insurance Story Littered with Discrepancies

    Steve McCausland - Police Spokesperson
    Not for nothing, Thoughtfox, and you've been here on WS for much much longer than I have, but maybe you should remove little GD's full first name from your list of players? She is a minor that is not being sleuthed and her identity should still fall under our protection, correct? I've shortened it in the quote I used above...


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    Quote Originally Posted by dog.gone.cute View Post
    Sorry to be Off-Topic here

    BUT, I thought I would post this since it is so close to Waterville ... AND ... "drug related" ...


    snipped from : http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/2...ref=relatedBox

    “It’s a drug-related homicide,” said Stephen McCausland, spokesman for the Maine Department of Public Safety.


    Wow ... Mr. McCausland certainly has his "hands full" : Ayla's case and now this !


    snippets from : http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/2...s-but-no-body/


    BELFAST, Maine — Blood drops and skull fragments found in a Jackson home led police to arrest Daniel Porter, 24, of Bangor in the case of a missing firefighter from Florida, according to new information from Waldo County Superior Court.

    The police report in the murder of Jerry Perdomo, 31, of Florida, was released Wednesday morning.

    Police arrested Porter on Tuesday afternoon and called the case a drug-related homicide.



    There is a thread here at WS for Jerry : Found Deceased FL - Jerry Perdomo, Orange City, 15 Feb 2012 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community



    Oh, I do NOT believe there is a "connection" -- BUT -- the drugs -- this is a serious problem that is absolutely out of control ...

    MOO ...
    Yes, i've been following this case closely as he is local for me. and yes, Maine sure has a whole lot of drug crime. These areas are close and most of them are small towns with endless forest in between....
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    http://www.wgme.com/news/top-stories...KZ22B.facebook

    Ron Reynolds makes another plea for information about Ayla. He also says unfounded rumors of TR being seen with Ayla after the supposed abduction led to her being questioned by state police recently. All MOO


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    50% of Americans are taking prescription pills legally prescribed to them. Its estimated 74% of all Americans take prescribed or illegally obtained pharmaceuticals.
    Prescription drugs responsible for more deaths than traffic accidents, study finds. More deaths from prescrip pills than heroin and cocaine COMBINED.

    Out-of-control? Medicare program subsidizing drug habits of tens of thousands of abusers, drug dealers thrive.




    All I am implying, is that its not just Maine, its not just little towns, its not just single parents.... the country has been FLOODED with pills and we have been convinced we need them...and more people than NOT, are involved with pills.





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    Quote Originally Posted by GARV View Post
    Not for nothing, Thoughtfox, and you've been here on WS for much much longer than I have, but maybe you should remove little GD's full first name from your list of players? She is a minor that is not being sleuthed and her identity should still fall under our protection, correct? I've shortened it in the quote I used above...
    The reason I left her name on there is that she shared a room with Ayla, and people mention her all the time (or abbreviate it as "Gabby"). So her name is not on there to be sleuthed - it's just a fact that she was either in the room with Ayla or in the room with her mother that night.

    I consider it just a fact of the case, but next time I revise it I can just put her initials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hambirg View Post
    But it comes down to avoidance behavior. People avoid what they fear. It's actually very insightful to what people may be thinking. What is the bigger fear?

    In cases like this one and in Lisa Irwin's, what do people fear more? Going to jail, or never knowing what happened to their child? A good example of that is the Dirk Schiller case. His mother went to prison in East Germany for years, because the fear of not knowing what happened to her child was greater than going to prison. It's a matter of priority.

    In this case, it's apparent that Trista's fear of not knowing where or what happened to Ayla out weighs her fear of ending up in prison. If she is innocent of any wrong doing, then her fear of going to prison is most likely small, and really not knowing where Ayla is is most likely huge. . .actually probably all consuming.

    From Justin's behavior it would seem that his fear of going to prison is greater than his fear of not knowing what happened to Ayla. It's easy to follow the logic. If he knows what happened to Ayla and he was responsible in some way, then it would be logical that he would fear getting caught and going to prison. It would also be logical that his fear of not knowing what happened to Ayla would be non-existent because he would already KNOW what happened to Ayla.

    I think it is why so many people say things like, "If my child disappeared, I would. . ." Because people can imagine how horrible the anxiety and fear of not knowing where or what is happening to your child would be. That fear would be so traumatic and all consuming that everything else would pale in comparison, including being falsely accused, arrested, tried and sent to prison.

    MOO
    You NAILED it! Thank you for breaking down the logic and IMO making a perfectly logical deduction on why people feel that way.



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