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    Charlie Sheen Speaks about Ashton

    Charlie speaks again! His take on the show/Ashton. I heard he may have said he was sorry.
    I find the show has not been as good since Charlie left. Sorry if that is not the popular opinion. Your views?


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    He said, "I'm tired of lying... I'm tired of pretending the show doesn't suck... I'm tired of pretending Ashton doesn't suck.

    "It's nothing personal... I just feel bad for him... He's saddled with such bad writing."

    The outburst comes just days after Warner Bros. lawyers representing the show's producers insisted Sheen cease using an old Two and a Half Men photo to promote his new comedy Anger Management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gozgals View Post
    Charlie speaks again! His take on the show/Ashton. I heard he may have said he was sorry.
    I find the show has not been as good since Charlie left. Sorry if that is not the popular opinion. Your views?


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    He said, "I'm tired of lying... I'm tired of pretending the show doesn't suck... I'm tired of pretending Ashton doesn't suck.

    "It's nothing personal... I just feel bad for him... He's saddled with such bad writing."

    The outburst comes just days after Warner Bros. lawyers representing the show's producers insisted Sheen cease using an old Two and a Half Men photo to promote his new comedy Anger Management.
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012...n_1283821.html
    I agree. Not that I don't like AK. It's just sometimes replacing actors does not work. The original chemistry is just not there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    I agree. Not that I don't like AK. It's just sometimes replacing actors does not work. The original chemistry is just not there.
    And it doesn't help that the situation is now preposterous. We could buy the rich Malibu libertine with the freeloading brother because, well, lots of us have problems with relatives who come to stay and never leave.

    But the idea that an internet billionaire (a) bought that rather small house (by Malibu standards) and (b) allows the tenant who pays no rent to continue to live there along with his teenage son, well, it really strains credulity.

    Much of the comedy when the show was at its best arose from the fact that we don't get to choose our relatives (mother or brother). Now there's really no reason for "Walden" to put up with "Alan". Does anybody really believe Ashton Kutcher has trouble making friends?

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    I only watch the reruns with Charlie. They are so funny. We watched the 1st episode with Ashton and decided not to waist any more of our time. I really miss Charlie Sheen.

    Really hoping his new show is as funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova View Post
    And it doesn't help that the situation is now preposterous. We could buy the rich Malibu libertine with the freeloading brother because, well, lots of us have problems with relatives who come to stay and never leave.

    But the idea that an internet billionaire (a) bought that rather small house (by Malibu standards) and (b) allows the tenant who pays no rent to continue to live there along with his teenage son, well, it really strains credulity.

    Much of the comedy when the show was at its best arose from the fact that we don't get to choose our relatives (mother or brother). Now there's really no reason for "Walden" to put up with "Alan". Does anybody really believe Ashton Kutcher has trouble making friends?


    Nova, summed it up pretty much.. I got bored with the show pretty quick for all the above reasons. Never really thought it through but you are right.

    Yea, a guy like Ashton can't make friends....!
    And, they make this guy so stupid on the show. My God..

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    The show is just not the same without Charlie. I have still been watching every week, hoping it will get better but it never does. I really wish they would have went in a different direction after Charlie left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova View Post
    And it doesn't help that the situation is now preposterous. We could buy the rich Malibu libertine with the freeloading brother because, well, lots of us have problems with relatives who come to stay and never leave.

    But the idea that an internet billionaire (a) bought that rather small house (by Malibu standards) and (b) allows the tenant who pays no rent to continue to live there along with his teenage son, well, it really strains credulity.

    Much of the comedy when the show was at its best arose from the fact that we don't get to choose our relatives (mother or brother). Now there's really no reason for "Walden" to put up with "Alan". Does anybody really believe Ashton Kutcher has trouble making friends?
    Actually it sounds just like Ashton's real life with Demi Moore.

    *sorry, I couldn't resist - my fingers couldn't wait to type that*

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    What ever problems Charile had in real life, he made the show, I have watched it twice, I am sure it will be cancelled, it is boaring, Allen and the other are good, but I do not think Ashton is much of an actor, he might be a lovely human being, but not an actor, sorry

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    He is one fine looking guy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nova View Post
    And it doesn't help that the situation is now preposterous. We could buy the rich Malibu libertine with the freeloading brother because, well, lots of us have problems with relatives who come to stay and never leave.

    But the idea that an internet billionaire (a) bought that rather small house (by Malibu standards) and (b) allows the tenant who pays no rent to continue to live there along with his teenage son, well, it really strains credulity.

    Much of the comedy when the show was at its best arose from the fact that we don't get to choose our relatives (mother or brother). Now there's really no reason for "Walden" to put up with "Alan". Does anybody really believe Ashton Kutcher has trouble making friends?
    It's a sitcom. It's not like it has to make sense.
    Just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gozgals View Post
    Nova, summed it up pretty much.. I got bored with the show pretty quick for all the above reasons. Never really thought it through but you are right.

    Yea, a guy like Ashton can't make friends....!
    And, they make this guy so stupid on the show. My God..

    goz
    You're the expert on comedy. My training is in dramaturgy, so I tend to think in terms of structure.

    I never thought Charlie Sheen was particularly funny in his own right, but the show worked because of the situation and because we all knew the character was something similar to Sheen in real life. And most of all because Sheen was playing straight man to such gifted comic actors in Jon Cryer, Holland Taylor and Conchata Ferrill.

    Ashton Kutcher, on the other hand, was often brilliantly funny on That 70's Show. I still laugh at this exchange:

    Kutcher's character says something really stupid.

    Topher Grace's mother: Were you dropped on your head as a child?

    Kutcher: Yes, but until now everyone was too polite to mention it.
    Debra Jo Rupp and Kutcher MADE that bit and countless others like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjenny View Post
    It's a sitcom. It's not like it has to make sense.
    Even comedy has its own, comic reality. You're right that's it isn't necessarily realistic; in fact, comedy often exists in a heightened reality that makes things laughable.

    But situation-comedies depend on an underlying situation to fuel the humor.

    My point was that in switching to Kutcher, the writers destroyed the "situation" in their "situation-comedy" and thus negated most of the laughs.

    Personally, I also think there's a smugness to Kutcher that I didn't see in his early work. I find it off-putting, but that's probably just me. Certainly, Sheen was no more humble, so perhaps I had different expectations for him.

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    IMHO Ashton still acts like he's on that 70's show While I don't think he's much of a bad actor, I think the writers are the one with the problem. Me and DH watch it just so we can point out all the absurdities and roll our eyes - but that's about it. Will it get picked up again next season? Gosh I hope not. Give me Mike n' Molly any day. I love Jim and Mike's mom:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7gr4HxaZjA"]Mike & Molly S01E06 - Mike's mother & awkward "silence" - YouTube[/ame]

    I laugh every time!

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    Mel, Two-and-a-half Men is still advertised as the highest rated sit-com on TV. I'm sure it's also very expensive to produce, but I imagine it will be on the air next year as long as the producer and Ashton Kutcher want to continue.

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    Oh wow. I checked out this thread because I couldn't figure out why on earth Charlie Sheen would even have an opinion about Jeff Ashton!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynotdivein View Post
    Oh wow. I checked out this thread because I couldn't figure out why on earth Charlie Sheen would even have an opinion about Jeff Ashton!

    LOL - that's good!


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    I'm just glad he cut that frickin' hair & shaved. I, personally don't like that wild & wooly look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Melanie View Post
    IMHO Ashton still acts like he's on that 70's show While I don't think he's much of a bad actor, I think the writers are the one with the problem. Me and DH watch it just so we can point out all the absurdities and roll our eyes - but that's about it. Will it get picked up again next season? Gosh I hope not. Give me Mike n' Molly any day. I love Jim and Mike's mom:

    Mike & Molly S01E06 - Mike's mother & awkward "silence" - YouTube

    I laugh every time!

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    sorry to get ot

    She's my favorite character on the show.Funny as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kato View Post
    I'm just glad he cut that frickin' hair & shaved. I, personally don't like that wild & wooly look.
    Amen.

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    What I find most unbelievable has nothing to do with the plot or characters on two and a half men, but that Charlie is still talking and anyone at all is still listening.

    Five years ago I wandered in here because of a google search on Haleigh Cummings. "Welcome," folks said "look around a bit, sit a spell." It wasn't long before I found Caylee's threads. It was just that simple.

    If you are new to the site allow me to say, "welcome. Look around a bit, sit a spell."

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    Quote Originally Posted by tlcox View Post
    What I find most unbelievable has nothing to do with the plot or characters on two and a half men, but that Charlie is still talking and anyone at all is still listening.

    Believe it or not, People still like Charlie and they do miss him on the show. If the show comes up in conversation, I have not heard a person say they did not want Charlie in the roll.

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