02-25-2012, 04:41 AM #1
35,000 Postal Service jobs on the chopping block
WASHINGTON (CNNMoney) -- The U.S. Postal Service announced on Thursday new plans to consolidate or close 223 mail processing plants, putting 35,000 jobs at stake starting in late May or June.
The move would save $2.1 billion and is part of the agency's broader effort to save $20 billion in the next three years.
The Postal Service is in debt due to declining first-class mail volumes and a congressional mandate to prefund retirement health care benefits.
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02-25-2012, 04:48 AM #2
That's sad. USPS earnings put me through school. My dad was a rural mail carrier for 25 years.
02-27-2012, 09:19 AM #3
I've been waiting for this. I predicted this 15 yrs ago that they had better restructure because of the internet. Poor management, imo. I use to buy online and dreaded if the only shipment option was by USPS, because the pkgs would arrive bashed in and many of the glass objects were broken. UPS or FED-X is the best ....and cheaper. It's a shame.Timeline, map, etc for Rachael
03-01-2012, 09:52 PM #4
Postal closures concern election officials, voters
Elections officials in several states are concerned that the closing of mail-processing centers and post offices could disrupt vote-by-mail balloting this year, a potential problem that has led some members of Congress to call for a delay until after the November elections...............
Voting officials are raising a variety of concerns, depending on the circumstances in their states. Meanwhile, postal customers have security concerns about leaving ballots in their mail boxes to be picked up by postal carriers.
In California and Arizona, officials say the closing of processing centers could delay the delivery of mail-in ballots beyond the deadline to have them counted.
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Had not thought of this but in my state a lot of military service members mail in ballots from overseas also....
03-01-2012, 10:25 PM #5
Good! That is a federal dept that requires a much needed overhaul . . . Fed Ex anyone?
Let's privatized USPS & stop feeding a cash cow? You know the head of the USPS makes more than the POTUS~ krimekat ~
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03-02-2012, 12:02 AM #6Registered User
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I understand that we as a society still count on receiving daily mail.
However, I think that it would be perfectly fine and acceptable if we had "mail days" assigned to our addresses--like trash or recycling pickup days.
They need to do a HUGE press release over several months announcing these changes so billing companies know to allow more time for their invoices to be received and for everyone in general to know to allow more time for mail service.
Carrier jobs could be eliminated, go part-time, and/or see wage reductions by combining routes over various days.
One exception: obtain a post office box and receive mail daily.
Yes, I realize these are jobs we are talking about--however, its also 2012, and think about what other couriers, sorters, and customer service reps get paid? Not much, and they have to be NICE to the clientele....
Look I have friends and family that work for the post office, but the fact is the majority of the lovely employees I get to deal with are overpaid and very unpleasant to deal with--another example of government waste in MY opinion--much like the DMV or any other government employee that clearly does not get evaluated on customer service. They need to be paid competitively (as in, within an "average range") as the benefits are already stellar. Considering that we are all paying their salaries, their customer service skills should be so good they are examples to every business everywhere.
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03-02-2012, 11:19 AM #7Registered User
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Well said. Like those who used to make and develop camera film, technology has left them out of jobs. And their(posatal workers) attitudes won't win them any popularity contests. Walk into a post office and they act like you're bothering them.
03-02-2012, 11:32 AM #8
It's frustrating that they won't make the cuts necessary to remain viable, but this isn't entirely up to them.
They don't get taxpayer dollars, but they are barred by the government from making changes to delivery schedules, etc. I wonder why they are allowed to close all these locations and cut all these jobs, but they weren't allowed to discontinue Saturday delivery?
The people in charge are clearly oblivious to basic business realities:
Chairman José Serrano (D–NY), of the House Appropriations subcommittee on Financial Services and General Government, which oversees language mandating six day service, said "While I understand the seriousness of the Postal Service's fiscal issues, I remain supportive of a six day delivery schedule. I will be in conversations in coming weeks with the senior postal leadership and the postal unions in an effort to avoid service cuts."
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03-02-2012, 11:42 AM #9
I find this very sad. Yes, most everyone could give up a day or two of mail delivery. I do not pay any bills on line. I know that many people do not have a computer or even know how to use one - plus with the economy in the shape it is in, many people may have to give up internet connections. Our ancestors waited months for their mail which was their only form of communication with family and friends.
I know I am old and really hesitate to say this but - the more ahead we get, the farther behind we could get. If rural delivery ends, I would have to go to the Post Office to get my mail. Many PO's are being closed - not everyone has a car and those that do, may not be able to afford to drive it, or are a one car family and the bread earner uses it during the hours the PO may be open.
If everyone has to go to the PO to pick up their mail, strict methods must be used to prevent theft. I just see a whole bunch of new problems.
03-04-2012, 10:54 PM #10
My mom has worked for the United States Postal Service for 30 years... and I will only say that I find it a shame that so many people can just say "Good!!" and not even know anything about what these employees have done and still do to this day and they deserve not only their paycheck, but their benefits just like anyone else who has worked hard all of their lives!Justice for Trayvon
03-05-2012, 03:41 AM #11
I'm sad to hear this as well. That's an awful lot of jobs to lose in this economy. I thought the idea of eliminating the Saturday delivery was a much better idea. It seems to me the mail delivery now is the best it's ever been in my lifetime. I do buy online and many items are shipped through the USPS. Haven't had any real problems with the condition of the items for awhile.
03-05-2012, 07:25 AM #12
Did anyone else just get a letter from the USPS asking you to join a group to report daily by phone or internet on mail service? You have to be getting mail everyday...not at a PO box, etc. The letter even gave me a name of a lady with a DC area code to call directly with any questions. ??? I just rec'd it yesterday and threw it out...or I could give you all the details. Anyone?
This is what I was talking about ^^^^^...instead of spending the monies to restructure, they are contracting out IBM to do a research/poll service? How much are they spending on that? Good grief. Cha-ching.
It's like any other business, if you don't take the lead and hold it, other's will "zip" by you. I feel bad that many will lose their jobs, but it just ole plain bad management skills with no foresight and innovation. Email capabilities were the first sign.
Email and IBM's been there......???? Email - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
ETA: Early in buying on line, I purchased a pr of large sterling salt and pepper shakers from an online auction for $11. The shipping was around $8. I tracked them from USPS on line and was able to tell the exact time they arrived at my PO. I have a PO Box there and the pkg would be placed in a larger locked box with it's key left in my box. Later that afternoon I arrived at the PO and no pkg. I showed them my print out of when they arrived. Long story short....my near $100 worth of property was never found....and I was refunded the $11, but lost the cost of shipping ($8). The pkg was in the bldg but they could never find it!! If they lose your pkg, they will not refund the shipping.!!!
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03-05-2012, 11:15 AM #13
02-07-2013, 09:42 AM #14
Postal Service to cut Saturday mail to trim costs
WASHINGTON (AP) — The financially struggling U.S. Postal Service said Wednesday it will stop delivering mail on Saturdays but continue to disburse packages six days a week, an apparent end-run around an unaccommodating Congress.
The service expects the Saturday mail cutback to begin the week of Aug. 5 and to save about $2 billion annually, said Postmaster General and CEO Patrick R. Donahoe.
"Our financial condition is urgent," Donahoe told a press conference.
The move accentuates one of the agency's strong points — package delivery has increased by 14 percent since 2010, officials say, while the delivery of letters and other mail has declined with the increasing use of email and other Internet services.
Under the new plan, mail would be delivered to homes and businesses only from Monday through Friday, but would still be delivered to post office boxes on Saturdays. Post offices now open on Saturdays would remain open on Saturdays.
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02-07-2013, 09:54 AM #15Inactive
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I can somewhat see the need - but not entirely. I pay all my bills on line or walk in (like AT&T or SDGE, and even rent). It's rare that I mail anything unless it's to the UK. However, I also purchase a lot on line (Amazon) and truly appreciate those services. What bothers me most is the number of folks who will be without jobs. If my mail takes a day or 2 later to get here - that's fine with me. But it will be hard for those folks to find new jobs
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