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    Unhappy CA - 11-year-old Long Beach girl taken to hospital after fight dies

    http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_20042805

    Updated: 02/25/2012 01:30:16 PM PST

    LONG BEACH -- An 11-year-old Long Beach girl who got into an after-school fight with another girl died after being taken to a hospital by a family member, police said today.

    Police withheld the girl's name and did not say where she went to school.

    The girl was brought to an emergency room -- she was unconscious and not breathing -- by family members about 5:50 p.m. Friday, police said. Police said the girl underwent surgery, was placed in intensive care in critical condition and declared dead about 8:50 p.m., police said.


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    11-year-olds fighting to the death? Scary.
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    11 year old girl beating another one to death? My God, that poor family.

    I am axiously awaiting more information.
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    My prayers are with this poor girls family.

    This is beyond a tragedy ...
    Just my, no one elses


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    Did she get hit on the head with something or fall and hit her head? What killed her? Its crazy for 11 year olds to be in hand to hand combat! There really isn't much information in the article to know what exactly happened.


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    LONG BEACH - An 11-year-old girl died after a preplanned fight with another girl, also 11, in an alley near Willard Elementary School, police said at a press conference held Saturday night.

    The girl, identified by friends as Joanna Ramos, sustained undisclosed injuries after the off-campus fight Friday evening. Both of the girls then walked away.

    Some time later, family members noticed Ramos wasn't feeling well and drove her to a local emergency room. She underwent surgery Friday, was initially listed in critical condition, but was pronounced dead shortly before 9 p.m. Friday.

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    Police have not made any arrests, but have interviewed the girl who engaged in the fight with Ramos. Deputy Chief Robert Luna said there were about seven onlookers present at the time, and they have been interviewed as well.

    Police did not say what prompted the fight, but friends said it was over a boy.

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    Police said the students were involved in an after-school program, and at some point left the campus and went to an alley near the K-5 school to fight. Police did not disclose the nature of the injuries Ramos sustained, but said no weapons were involved in the fight.

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    The Los Angeles County Coroner had not yet performed an autopsy as of Saturday night. The Coroner will determine the exact cause of death.


    http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_20042805
    Forum: Jury Room
    Thread: Most interesting classic unsolved murder cases

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    Many cases do not have a thread. Please feel free to start one in the appropriate forum if you would like to look into one. Should you start a thread on one of these cases, please let me know so that I can add the link to the spreadsheet.

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    Thread: Cold But Not Too Old Murder Case List

    This is a listing of newer but still cold cases. As with the above thread we will be adding as we go along. Most of these cases will probably have threads. If you do start a new one, please let me know so I can add the link to the spreadsheets. The spreadsheets may be accessed from the links below.

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    Sadly, I'm not as shocked as I should be. The daughter of a family friend was kicked to death when she was 11, by two 11 year old girls. They served less than a year in prison, and their community had a 'welcome home' party when they were released (which the authorities kindly saw fit to do on the anniversary of her death).

    You'll be relieved to hear that this is in the UK, mind you.
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    Joanna Ramos. RIP.



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    Her aunt, Celina Cervantes, said Joanna complained of a headache after the fight and that the girl's mother rushed her to the hospital. Joanna had no visible wounds. She underwent surgery and was placed in intensive care.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lano...mily-says.html

    I am guessing that this was a bleeding issue... either something that just took a bit longer in the brain... or else something like the spleen with the headache being separate from the fatal injury.

    Nobody being knocked to the ground definitely makes it a bit harder to imagine such a serious injury though.


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    a fight that bad at 11 yrs of age over a BOY!
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........


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    Coroner ruling: Homicide

    Blunt force trauma to the head. The girl died after surgery for a blood clot on the brain.

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/27...-school-fight/


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    Over a boy! I am having trouble wrapping my head around this.

    I'm 43 years old and had no interest in boys at 11. Times are changing indeed. Her poor family.
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    The fight seemed very minor. I'm wondering if the girl had some kind of pre-existing condition that was exacerbated by the fight. Such as an aneurysm.
    Forum: Jury Room
    Thread: Most interesting classic unsolved murder cases

    This thread currently has over 350 cases with a brief synopsis of each and we are still adding additional cases.

    You can access a spreadsheet that lists the cases in alphabetical order with the page & post number so that you can locate a particular case you may be interested in. It also contains links to any cases that already have a thread on WS.

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    Here is the link for the spreadsheet in country order:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...FBBcGVid0lmUHc
    =======================================

    Forum: Jury Room
    Thread: Cold But Not Too Old Murder Case List

    This is a listing of newer but still cold cases. As with the above thread we will be adding as we go along. Most of these cases will probably have threads. If you do start a new one, please let me know so I can add the link to the spreadsheets. The spreadsheets may be accessed from the links below.

    Here is the link for the spreadsheet in alphabetical order:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...mlNV2lSQ1dDWHc

    Here is the link for the spreadsheet in country order:
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    This is just so sad. They interviewed little Joanna's family on our local news channel this morning and they said she had also been the victim of bullying by this girl..All over a boy! What a waste!

    ~RIP~ Joanna
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    http://www.presstelegram.com/news/ci_20062079

    Police have said the fight in an alley after school on Friday lasted less than a minute, involved no weapons and that no one fell to the ground.

    Villanueva (the victim's mother), 41, said that before Joanna lost consciousness, she told her mother the other girl was her "enemy" but offered no further explanation.

    "I said, what happened, and she said, 'a girl punched my head,' and I said why, and she said, 'I don't know Mom. We are enemies,'" Villanueva recalled. "I asked her, you don't have any enemies. Why, Joanna? She told me, 'I don't want to talk, I'm tired and I want to go to sleep.'"

    "After that she didn't say anything no more," the mother said.


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