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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayslooking View Post
    I don't mean to be combative, but I hate to have this murderer referred to as a child! I cannot understand the sympathy for him! Where did he get the gun.....we have many weapons....none that are daughter or grandchildren can get a hold of!
    He is a child in the eyes of the law. He's 17. So were his victims. High School kids.

    I won't even get into the gun debate. My blood pressure would sky rocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alwayslooking View Post
    I don't believe this kid was bullied, he was probably the bullier......everything I have seen or read shows a very evil young man and looking at dad the fruit didn't fall far from the tree! He was to cowardly to not end his own life! It's to bad that he can't be executed!
    At 17 one of my sons was in a war zone.....I feel nothing for this coward....and where was his family he had a open facebook and tweeter account, they should of done an invountary commitment, I have done it twice to my adult daughter, because I am a responsible parent!
    Perhaps he was bullied because he was the bully. The bully is often bullied and/or target of abuse. Many bullies come from broken down families where abuse and drugs are common. Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, and Osama bin Laden were bullies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Know? View Post
    I'm seeing tweets that a 2nd student has died. This is horrible.

    myfoxal FOX6 WBRC-TV
    A 2nd victim of the Chardon H.S. shooting has died, reports our sister station WOIO in Ohio. The victim
    I hope it is wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh_gal View Post
    Take this with a grain of salt:

    I just talked with a lady who has a teen-age son who attends Chardon High School. He said that one of the other boys was shot near the heart, and although they "patched him up" (her words), the next few hours will be touch and go, but it doesn't look good, due to where the bullet hit.
    I'm guessing the one shot by the heart is probably the second deceased student...

    http://www.wgntv.com/news/ktla-ohio-...,5083209.story

    Suspect IDd in Deadly Ohio School Shooting, 2nd Victim Dies

    A gunman wounded five students, two of them fatally...

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    I must have missed the link that confirms the picture of the individual holding the guns is TJ Lane. If someone has the link handy, that would be great. TIA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MsFacetious View Post
    Wonder if that's where he got the idea for the picture?
    Probably. Looks eerily similar.

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    Do you think 1 guy like TJ idolizes others like CHO???
    Is that in their criminal profile?
    Where the 2 students that died his targets?
    or did he randomly fire?
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    Me too on the Twitter pics. What's up with that? Sort of eerie, really, how quick that popped up.
    The tweeted pics. I saw earlier sure does look like him in his FB pictures. Is there another tweeted pic. out there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brighidin View Post
    I must have missed the link that confirms the picture of the individual holding the guns is TJ Lane. If someone has the link handy, that would be great. TIA.
    It was, I think, first reported by WOIO; as of now, WAFB still affirms the Twitter pics on its site, but not through any reporting of its own - it's using a WOIO account and the site hasn't updated the article in almost five articles. And meanwhile, back at the WOIO site, the most recent lead article has dropped the matter entirely.

    I'd say there right now is no confirmation that Lane is the "Twitter Triptych" guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    He is a child in the eyes of the law. He's 17. So were his victims. High School kids.

    I won't even get into the gun debate. My blood pressure would sky rocket.
    You are right in the laws eyes he is a child, however I am sure he will be tried as an adult, isn't it funny that the 17 year old soldier is not a child, or the 16 year old mother! We sure have a double standard in this country!
    War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.
    John Stuart Mill
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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    It was, I think, first reported by WOIO; as of now, WAFB still affirms the Twitter pics on its site, but not through any reporting of its own - it's using a WOIO account and the site hasn't updated the article in almost five articles. And meanwhile, back at the WOIO site, the most recent lead article has dropped the matter entirely.

    I'd say there right now is no confirmation that Lane is the "Twitter Triptych" guy.
    No confirmation, but several media sites were quoting students earlier that he had posted on twitter yesterday about this, but they just thought it was a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfgodot View Post
    It was, I think, first reported by WOIO; as of now, WAFB still affirms the Twitter pics on its site, but not through any reporting of its own - it's using a WOIO account and the site hasn't updated the article in almost five articles. And meanwhile, back at the WOIO site, the most recent lead article has dropped the matter entirely.

    I'd say there right now is no confirmation that Lane is the "Twitter Triptych" guy.
    Okay, thanks. I tried reading the articles and blogs that were posted earlier, but a lot of the embedded links to the pictures are gone now (i.e. the Steve Huff blog posted earlier this afternoon).

    FWIW, I don't think the boy holding the guns looks anything like the boy holding the teddy bear in the V-day pics.

    Its all just so sad.

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    Here's what CBS is running. Note you can scroll down to hear recordings from the scene:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-...nt;cbsCarousel

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    I'm not the greatest judge of faces in photos (especially when one is looking at them via the internet, staring at a monitor instead of holding a snapshot) but I didn't think the Twitter pics looked much like the Facebook guy at all.

    Definitely one of those "but I could be wrong!" things though.

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    fwiw....CNN is showing this picture. This one looks more like the teddy bear one, imo.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/27/ju...ing/?hpt=hp_t1

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    My understanding of the photos is that they were confirmed not to be him, and had been either posted earlier in the week and are someone else entirely(still seriously disturbing then i they are real) the article I was reading discussed it, going to see if I can find it now.

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    Here it is: http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-...-which-its-not

    So no confirmation, just some interesting info though.

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    If it's not the same kid, I hope they find him or we'll have another tragedy in the not too distant future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    fwiw....CNN is showing this picture. This one looks more like the teddy bear one, imo.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2012/02/27/ju...ing/?hpt=hp_t1
    in this photo he looks so thin........did he lose weight?
    would his mental health make him look different in the eyes?
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellabella View Post
    Here it is: http://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-...-which-its-not

    So no confirmation, just some interesting info though.
    Thanks for posting this, ellabella.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~n/t~ View Post
    If it's not the same kid, I hope they find him or we'll have another tragedy in the not too distant future.
    Which is probably why we're not getting confirmation one way or the other. The FBI is aware of these pix now and are probably tracking this kid down as we speak.

    I'm sure it will all get cleared up as soon as the authorities get their hands on this kid (if there is a second kid).


    JMHO

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    under comments 1 girl said 'he had sad eyes'
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
    Justice for Hailey!!!!
    No Justice for Caylee Marie..........

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    I'm sure the students will know who is who.
    I'm looking for 1 of the 1st articles where they were looking for a 2nd shooter,
    but said he was alone?????
    Kyron, HALEIGH, ADJI & Gabriel NEEDS PRAYERS NOW TO FIND THEM!. Zahra & Jonathan in heaven
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