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Thread: IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 #27

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jupiter812 View Post
    Welcome, that's a great anagram! Is there anything you would like us to know about PT?

    The questions I have are not about PT generally but about the veracity of postings such as those by JW's roommates, the drug rumors, and bits about ZO.
    The drug rumors are SOLID, from my perspective. If there is anything PT is good for, it is good for clarifying drug rumors/usage.

    ALLEGEDLY... Lauren had 2 and a half 'xannie bars' (xanax) when she would normally have taken only half a bar and maybe some wine.

    She also had consumed at least a line of cocaine BEFORE she even left Smallwood.

    This is all indeed heresay, but from my PT experience, almost everything JW's roommate said on PT is just true. I have a very fine-tuned PT filter, and I really put Aaronwg through it....

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    as far as ZO goes...

    yep, he is definitelely a major component of the evening.

    When the situation first came to PT, I kept suggesting to 'follow the drug trail'.

    A student from IU joined PT and told me that ZO was the biggest drug dealer on campus (not weed) and that he had been busted by the DEA.

    AB was/is ZO's roommate, and I have a lot more to say about this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by elmomom View Post
    First,

    Second, I never once said that I believed JW was guilty. I just cannot agree that he is innocent. He is still a POI, and statistically, the most likely suspect.
    I appreciate that you came on over to PT with your convictions, Elmomom.

    It had the effect of me fine-tuning my criticism towards JW and his 'alleged' roommate'.

    I have much respect for you, Elmomom, you ask the right questions...


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    Am I allowed to post specific PT posts on here?

    I am still learning the rules and etiquette here.

    My time will perhaps be be brief here, so I appreciate you, WS, I feel like I know you all well.

    I appreciate if you allow me to come and get right to my points that I want to share here~

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_blush View Post
    Am I allowed to post specific PT posts on here?

    I am still learning the rules and etiquette here.

    My time will perhaps be be brief here, so I appreciate you, WS, I feel like I know you all well.

    I appreciate if you allow me to come and get right to my points that I want to share here~
    No I don't think we can link to that site or copy posts from there. We can only link to mainstream media articles, or facebook pages of actual named persons of interest and victims.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_blush View Post
    Am I allowed to post specific PT posts on here?

    I am still learning the rules and etiquette here.

    My time will perhaps be be brief here, so I appreciate you, WS, I feel like I know you all well.

    I appreciate if you allow me to come and get right to my points that I want to share here~
    You can't copy and paste posts, but we did allow linking to PT for awhile early on. Reference posts with date/time or a post number. If it causes a problem I'll let you know.

    ETA: Thanks for asking before you posted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jupiter812 View Post
    What's your theory about what happened?
    I think somehow drugs are the tie-in between JR and ZO. I always thought that AB and HT knew each other, which was confirmed here, after a WS member saw them together in Indy.

    Which means that AB and ZO were most likely at HT and Lauren's place, and I am faily confident in my mind that ZO punched CR out for drug related reasons, OR because he was attracted to Lauren himself.

    ZO did NOT punch CR to look out for JW, ZO is a member of Acacia, NOT AEPi...

    I also suspect that DB may have been in Bloomington to procure drugs for the Phish show the next night in Detroit....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bessie View Post
    You can't copy and paste posts, but we did allow linking to PT for awhile early on. Reference posts with date/time or a post number. If it causes a problem I'll let you know.
    Thanks, Bessie.

    A lot of the PT threads got modded, but there are some very specific, pertinent posts that are controversial.

    Most of the ZO material was modded quickly fwiw...

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    So I've heard.
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    As far as the DB tweet...

    Straight up... I have friends in B'Town who know the owner/s of the Runcible Spoon.

    I suggested early on to them to check up on any possible DB credit card receipts.

    I hope that happened

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    sweet_blush, do you have a theory on what happened to lauren?

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    correction:

    Phish played in Detroit on June 3.

    One more thing about Ray_Anastasio.

    He was a HS friend of MB (CR's roommate), BUT... he is also best friends with all four of JR's roommates from NJ. He is connected with the Jewish camp in the Hudson Valley. Think about this, it is important.

    Ray_Anastasio is also the reason several WS members migrated to PT.

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    The heck with sleep ..sweetblush going to keep me awake all night.
    And
    I couldnt agree more that ChickJustin is a genius..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seagull View Post
    sweet_blush, do you have a theory on what happened to lauren?
    I can only speculate.

    I don't think she was able to leave JR's on her own accord.

    I don't trust JR, he allegedly is 'a great liar' and has 'no soul' according to those that know him closest.

    Combine the fact that between JR's and DB's parents... well, I won't go there, yet


    These guys are ALL lying IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_blush View Post
    I can only speculate.

    I don't think she was able to leave JR's on her own accord.

    I don't trust JR, he allegedly is 'a great liar' and has 'no soul' according to those that know him closest.

    Combine the fact that between JR's and DB's parents... well, I won't go there, yet


    These guys are ALL lying IMO.
    Knowing he is older than most of the poi's , have you heard if JW is involved with this drug circle? Did arron ever say anyting about a bloodhound at his house?

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    Igor, I don't know how to PM yet.

    http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2726003/posts

    ^start on page 9 (very last post of page 8, actually), and please mod and forgive me if this is against TOS...

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    thanks -- reading through now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_blush View Post
    I think somehow drugs are the tie-in between JR and ZO. I always thought that AB and HT knew each other, which was confirmed here, after a WS member saw them together in Indy.

    Which means that AB and ZO were most likely at HT and Lauren's place, and I am faily confident in my mind that ZO punched CR out for drug related reasons, OR because he was attracted to Lauren himself.

    ZO did NOT punch CR to look out for JW, ZO is a member of Acacia, NOT AEPi...

    I also suspect that DB may have been in Bloomington to procure drugs for the Phish show the next night in Detroit....
    IU's Acacia chapter lost its charter this year.
    http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=87533
    Drug dealing, drug use, and hazing were given as the reasons. The rumors on campus are that the drug use had gotten so bad that the house was being called "cocacia."
    https://www.facebook.com/idsnews/posts/396918727012199

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_blush View Post
    Igor, I don't know how to PM yet.

    http://phantasytour.com/bands/1/topics/2726003/posts

    ^start on page 9 (very last post of page 8, actually), and please mod and forgive me if this is against TOS...
    and WS gets a lil shout out on page 14.

    I'm so glad there is some activity and talk of Lauren. I hope her family gets some answers soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweet_blush View Post
    correction:

    Phish played in Detroit on June 3.

    One more thing about Ray_Anastasio.

    He was a HS friend of MB (CR's roommate), BUT... he is also best friends with all four of JR's roommates from NJ. He is connected with the Jewish camp in the Hudson Valley. Think about this, it is important.

    Ray_Anastasio is also the reason several WS members migrated to PT.
    I thought that this group all went to camps in NE Pennsylvania...
    http://www.lohud.com/article/2011061...ollege-student

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapfade View Post
    The media attention or a preliminary test that didnt rule out Lauren may have caught the coroners office off guard a bit. .......The Sr. Deputy Coroner takes the lead with media. The Coroners office begins to follow step by step procedures,to insure a defense attorney doesnt embarrass their office in a high profile trial......just a possibility....
    While trying to get to sleep last night, this post and Jacobite's post about the skull gathering dust bothered me more than any other posts of the evening. I wouldn't be surprised.

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    I hate thinking that if the remains are NOT Lauren...it is back to square one.
    Just my opinion, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jupiter812 View Post
    While trying to get to sleep last night, this post and Jacobite's post about the skull gathering dust bothered me more than any other posts of the evening. I wouldn't be surprised.
    The 1800's have been portrayed in an unfair way in an earlier post. Back then, we had a strong work ethic and went the extra mile in our professions. In 1886, the New York Times reported about a girl who was kidnapped, murdered and thrown in the Wabash River in Indiana. Her remains were found several months later. A dentist was called to examine her skull and gave her family an answer right away. The father then gave the kidnapper a speedy trial after kidnapping him from the jail with a crowd of 200 Hoosiers.

    I know someone who was a crime victim in Indiana. The evidence was sent to the State Crime Lab. He was told about a 1.5 year backup. So, in the case of this skull, they actually believe they are expediting the case. The Spierer's would have gotten an answer sooner back in the 1800's We have come a long way with technology and taken several steps backwards with efficiency.
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    I've not posted in a while (family issues) but i just went to search Lauren spierer & the first thing to pop up as i was typing was Lauren Spierer found-my whole body got hot. So I've read thru everything here & see that we still don't know! If it makes me this ill i can't even imagine how her parents feel.....i hope we hear something soon.
    Glad to see the new posters. The more people like all of u here on this case the better.
    Last edited by cspring; 08-08-2012 at 11:56 AM. Reason: typos

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    http://spotcrime.com/crime/14630916-...f87af2985d6334


    There is a list of all JR's roommates...

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