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    Quote Originally Posted by mikkismom View Post
    I think Christi Nichols looks remarkably like our UID! It seems very likely that she was killed by her husband.
    I keep going back and forth about Christi Nichols, I think she looks a lot like LER. I wonder if she could have left her husband and changed her identity to get away from him or things like that usually only happen in fiction?

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    Anne Marie Fahey is deceased. She is only listed on the missing sites because her killer placed her body in the Atlantic Ocean, so technically her body is "missing." But she could not possibly be this Jane Doe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deca View Post
    I decided to leave Christi Nichols, Jokumsen and Cole for the time being because I don't want to rule out on uncertain info.


    POTENTIAL LIST
    UPDATED as of May 2, 2012 8pmPST
    These are names we have suggested for Longview Jane Doe in this thread. Please add to or correct as needed.
    I have included a number after the name if 1. height significantly off 2. age/date LKA is significantly off and 3. other physical characteristics off

    Rachel Garden-1
    Lisa Renee Wilson-1
    Kerry O'Brien Kruger-1
    Robin Marlow--2
    Kelly Bergh Dove
    Martha L Green-1
    Gayle Barnes-2
    Christi Nichols
    Donna Jokumsen
    Debra Jean Cole
    Mary Louise Day

    Julie Ann Guthrie-3
    Suzanne M Schultz-2
    Cynthia Lorie Perry-1
    Judy Ann Gary
    Christina L Byers-2
    Jennifer Wictor-3
    Lori Lee Berens
    Anne Marie Fahey-2
    Thanks for doing this.

    After putting each of the photos next to a photo of LEKR, I feel that Lori Berens is the best possibility. Kelly Dove is 2nd. Christi Nichols' chin and eyebrow/nose spacing don't match. Donna Jokumsen appears to have a longer chin and different shaped eyes. Debra Cole is pretty short, and her circumstances indicate she was killed. Mary Louise Day has a completely different nose, but that's all I can come up with. Judy Gary has a decent facial likeness, but she doesn't have a "toothy" smile in any of her photos, which leads me to think that she is not our UID...she has a white, toothy smile in every photo. I think most people don't switch between a toothy grin and a closed lip grin....but I'm on the fence with that.

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    Lori Lee Berens has a facebook page. Started Feb. 17 by her cousin Karen. If she asks about my interest, how much should I share?
    Last edited by mamashawn; 05-03-2012 at 09:32 PM. Reason: to finish thought.
    Linda Lunsford, missing since December 26, 1996
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    April Pickens, missing since December 26, 2011
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=165823

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamashawn View Post
    Lori Lee Berens has a facebook page. Started Feb. 17 by her cousin Karen. If she asks about my interest, how much should I share?
    I think that you should contact LE first. We should try not to involve family if at all possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mamashawn View Post
    Lori Lee Berens has a facebook page. Started Feb. 17 by her cousin Karen. If she asks about my interest, how much should I share?
    Although, you could ask if she has additional pics.

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    Although I wouldn't randomly approach a family member, in this case cousin has posted on at least 4-5 sites for information about Lori Lee Berens, so I think it would be okay to ask about an additional picture or ask if she wants to come over here to WS to answer questions.

    I actually tried to email her yesterday (sent to an email address she publicly posted on a missing forum) but the note bounced back. It must have been a discontinued address.

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    Mary Louise Day
    Missing since January 1, 1980 from Seaside, Monterey County, California
    Classification: Endangered Missing

    Vital Statistics

    Date Of Birth: February 19, 1968
    Age at Time of Disappearance: 12 years old
    Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'8"; 120 lbs.
    Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes
    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2990dfca.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by deca View Post
    Although I wouldn't randomly approach a family member, in this case cousin has posted on at least 4-5 sites for information about Lori Lee Berens, so I think it would be okay to ask about an additional picture or ask if she wants to come over here to WS to answer questions.

    I actually tried to email her yesterday (sent to an email address she publicly posted on a missing forum) but the note bounced back. It must have been a discontinued address.
    Great idea! We can reach out to her via Facebook if the email doesn't work. Anyone want to do that? I can if no one else is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeannieC View Post
    I sure wish there was more info on her. I can't find anything. Seriously, a 12-year old goes missing and no one is still looking for her??? It would be nice to know what they think happened!

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    An idea I had, that I'm unsure if it's a good one and I also don't have the time right now to pursue (this is my second login just to try to get this post written, sigh) is to look on Facebook for groups that we could post her picture in to see if anyone recognizes her.

    For example, where I live, we have a high school fb and a county fb. I browsed a little bit for Scottsdale, but so far all I found were more like information pages that can't be posted on. I was thinking about looking for Scottsdale, Denton, Arlington, and Leonard, but bypassing Longview, since we know she was there under the assumed name. I was planning on contacting admins of any pages I found asking them to just post the picture without any backstory attached and having anyone who recognized her pm the admin with the info. Unfortunately, it looks like it's going to be a few months before I have enough extra time to do this kind of stuff. And now I have to get back to work :-(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    An idea I had, that I'm unsure if it's a good one and I also don't have the time right now to pursue (this is my second login just to try to get this post written, sigh) is to look on Facebook for groups that we could post her picture in to see if anyone recognizes her.

    For example, where I live, we have a high school fb and a county fb. I browsed a little bit for Scottsdale, but so far all I found were more like information pages that can't be posted on. I was thinking about looking for Scottsdale, Denton, Arlington, and Leonard, but bypassing Longview, since we know she was there under the assumed name. I was planning on contacting admins of any pages I found asking them to just post the picture without any backstory attached and having anyone who recognized her pm the admin with the info. Unfortunately, it looks like it's going to be a few months before I have enough extra time to do this kind of stuff. And now I have to get back to work :-(
    That is an interesting idea, but I would check with a mod to make sure it doesn't violate TOS. Just so you know, (if doing this is ok with everyone) there are a few facebook pages for "Class of XX Horizon High" and similar pages for many of the surrounding high school in the areas. XX being different years, of course. That would be a pretty good page to post on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeannieC View Post

    One of the reasons I haven't latched on to this one for our Longview case is because what are the chances a 12 yo can survive for a few years, get a new identity and become a "successful" adult? I don't know, but it doesn't seem good. However, I don't want to totally rule out anyone.

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    If you guys want to ask FB admins to post her on their pages, we don't have a problem with that. The only thing is not to say that Websleuths asked for it to be posted there. You can say you saw her on Websleuths, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deca View Post
    One of the reasons I haven't latched on to this one for our Longview case is because what are the chances a 12 yo can survive for a few years, get a new identity and become a "successful" adult? I don't know, but it doesn't seem good. However, I don't want to totally rule out anyone.
    A few years ago I would have agreed but after Jaycee Dugard I believe anything is possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimster View Post
    If you guys want to ask FB admins to post her on their pages, we don't have a problem with that. The only thing is not to say that Websleuths asked for it to be posted there. You can say you saw her on Websleuths, however.

    Hope that helps!
    Thanks, Kimster. My misgivings about this approach are that my instincts are telling me this woman has an assumed identity due to escaping an abusive situation rather than a criminal past. I realize she is now deceased, but she does have a small child. I go back and forth between wanting her identity discovered so her child will know who her mama really was, and thinking maybe it's better to let sleeping dogs lie, in case this alerts some crazy stalker psycho person she may have been running from and that person ends up getting access to the child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanie View Post
    Thanks, Kimster. My misgivings about this approach are that my instincts are telling me this woman has an assumed identity due to escaping an abusive situation rather than a criminal past. I realize she is now deceased, but she does have a small child. I go back and forth between wanting her identity discovered so her child will know who her mama really was, and thinking maybe it's better to let sleeping dogs lie, in case this alerts some crazy stalker psycho person she may have been running from and that person ends up getting access to the child.
    I think it was an abusive situation as well, but still would want the child to know one day.....

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    It is described that Lori Lee Berens left because of a fight with a sibling- and she was 21 when she left...so it isn't like she left a husband or was a minor under their parents thumb although I guess we can't know exactly what the family was like.
    As far as posting on other pages, in regards to dangers of her child:
    Yes, there is some concern but the fact is that they would have no custodial rights to the child---if I was a dad to a young child there would be no way I would let her visit with strangers even if they were relatives--so I am less concerned with the situation spoken of above.

    JMO of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deca View Post
    It is described that Lori Lee Berens left because of a fight with a sibling- and she was 21 when she left...so it isn't like she left a husband or was a minor under their parents thumb although I guess we can't know exactly what the family was like.
    As far as posting on other pages, in regards to dangers of her child:
    Yes, there is some concern but the fact is that they would have no custodial rights to the child---if I was a dad to a young child there would be no way I would let her visit with strangers even if they were relatives--so I am less concerned with the situation spoken of above.

    JMO of course.
    Abusers can be very manipulative and charming people.

    I think the best way to go would be to indentify this woman and the circumstances of her fake ID before whatever family she may have were aware, but that is easier said than done. LE has already put her picture out there, but if I were to personally put it out there some more, and it didn't end well, I would feel really bad about it. Too bad I can't just snap my fingers and know why she chose to 'disappear', it would make it a lot easier to know the best way to proceed.

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    I haven't re-read all these posts so I'll ask if anyone knows how it was determined that she was born in 1969?

    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeannieC View Post
    I haven't re-read all these posts so I'll ask if anyone knows how it was determined that she was born in 1969?

    Thank you!
    It was in her obit. Not sure if it is correct though.

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    So, has anyone contacted the cousin? I know some people have reservations about it--- you can see what my opinion is above FWIW.

    If not, what should we do now? Keep looking? Give LE the list of possibilities?

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    Quote Originally Posted by deca View Post
    If not, what should we do now? Keep looking? Give LE the list of possibilities?
    JMO, I don't see anyone among the MP's presented here that look like strong possibles for our Jane Doe.

    I would guess that this woman was never reported as a missing person. Maybe a fugitive. Maybe she was fleeing from an abusive relationship. But MOO is that the chances of her being a MP listed in Charley, DoeNet, NAMPN, or NamUs are very remote.

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    I know that the age is a bit off, but she looks a little bit like Cherrie Ann Mahan in her age progression photo. I wish that this case could be solved; but I also wish that Cherrie would be found.

    http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/255dfpa.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    JMO, I don't see anyone among the MP's presented here that look like strong possibles for our Jane Doe.

    I would guess that this woman was never reported as a missing person. Maybe a fugitive. Maybe she was fleeing from an abusive relationship. But MOO is that the chances of her being a MP listed in Charley, DoeNet, NAMPN, or NamUs are very remote.
    Yeah, I pretty much agree with you. Does anyone know if there are lists of fugitives? I have looked but they seem to only post the top ten. My guess is there are tens of thousands of people that have warrants out, so that would be a pretty impossible task and probably a waste of time.
    I also imagine that SS investigators have a lot more resources at their disposal than we do and they can't solve it...

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