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    FL - Tampa, WhtFem 691UFFL, 35-55, in Tampa Bay w/ rope & cinderblock, Mar'61

    White female found in floating in Tampa Bay west of Davis Causeway in Safety Harbor. She had a rope tied to right foot that was attached to a cement block.

    She was 35-55 years old, weighed about 115, 64 inches, estimated time of death approx. two days before (she was found March 04 1961).
    Her hair was recently permed and she had an appendectomy scar and a Pfannenstiel type pelvic scar

    She was wearing a green 1 piece Jantzen bathing suit, Size 14/36 and a white metal ring, flower design, with 17 stones and 8 missing. Two white metal bracelets. Fingerprints and dentals are available but no DNA. She had antemortem loss in her upper jaw and lower molars.




    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/2304

    She is not Ida Anderson or Evelyn Hartley.

    http://doenetwork.org/cases/691uffl.html

    According to DN she had also suffered a blow to her head and had upper dentures and a partial lower plate
    Last edited by CarlK90245; 03-26-2013 at 04:19 PM.

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    This is Marjorie Moore.

    She isn't on any of the 'Big 3' MP sites but there is an article about her. We don't have much in the way of vitals, though. Just a photo (below).

    I'm not crazy about the timeline since Marjorie went missing in 1953 but I kind of see a resemblance.

    http://www.tampabay.com/features/hum...s-heart/999419

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    Another photo of Marjorie (right) that was probably closer to the time of her disappearance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyssey View Post
    This is Marjorie Moore.

    She isn't on any of the 'Big 3' MP sites but there is an article about her. We don't have much in the way of vitals, though. Just a photo (below).

    I'm not crazy about the timeline since Marjorie went missing in 1953 but I kind of see a resemblance.

    http://www.tampabay.com/features/hum...s-heart/999419

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    I don't think the timeline is impossible, although it seems weird that she would have left and then just hung around Tampa for another 8 years. Hard to tell if there's a resemblance, but she fits the age range--she would have been in her 30s when she disappeared, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FiveFelines View Post
    I don't think the timeline is impossible, although it seems weird that she would have left and then just hung around Tampa for another 8 years. Hard to tell if there's a resemblance, but she fits the age range--she would have been in her 30s when she disappeared, right?
    Yeah. The article written in 2009 said she would have been 88 at that time, so she would have been born around 1921, so 32 when she went missing and 40 when the body was found...

    I think the forehead, eyes, and eyebrows are similar. I'm not sure why they drew that line over her nose in the sketch, but I think the nose is similar enough if you mentally erase that line. I'm just not sure about the chin, since the photos are not at the same angle, it's hard to tell...

    I wish we had height, weight, identifying marks, etc. for Marjorie...

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    The Pfannenstiel scar is interesting. It was NOT used for Caesarean sections in 1961, so that means the UID had some type of pelvic surgery- most likely a hernia repair or possibly a tubal ligation. Hmmm.......
    Six-year-old Shannon Sherrill disappeared from her front yard in Thorntown, Indiana in October, 1986. Someone knows where she is......

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...annon+sherrill

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    Quote Originally Posted by meanmaryjean View Post
    The Pfannenstiel scar is interesting. It was NOT used for Caesarean sections in 1961, so that means the UID had some type of pelvic surgery- most likely a hernia repair or possibly a tubal ligation. Hmmm.......
    I've never even heard of that scar and was curious what it was... based on your post, I'm guessing it's in the abdominal region?

    I think the problem is, that her children were young - the oldest one was 12 when she went missing. He probably never saw any scars unless they were on her hands, face, etc. I'm guessing the reason we don't have any vitals on Marjorie is that her children simply don't remember those details. She wasn't reported missing back then, as far as I know. I'm not 100% sure she's even been officially reported missing now.

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    The Pfannenstiel incision is what we would call a bikini incision today. It was not a commonly used approach to the abdomen/pelvis UNTIL it began to be used for c-sections in the late 70s.
    Six-year-old Shannon Sherrill disappeared from her front yard in Thorntown, Indiana in October, 1986. Someone knows where she is......

    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...annon+sherrill

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    Quote Originally Posted by meanmaryjean View Post
    The Pfannenstiel incision is what we would call a bikini incision today. It was not a commonly used approach to the abdomen/pelvis UNTIL it began to be used for c-sections in the late 70s.

    It wouldn't have anything to do with the line drawn across her nose in the sketch though, right?

    Sorry, but that line bothers me. It makes her nose and mouth look like a cat. I'm just trying to figure out if it has a purpose.
    Last edited by Odyssey; 09-14-2013 at 07:31 PM. Reason: added second paragraph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Odyssey View Post
    It wouldn't have anything to do with the line drawn across her nose in the sketch though, right?

    Sorry, but that line bothers me. It makes her nose and mouth look like a cat. I'm just trying to figure out if it has a purpose.
    No--you can see a pic of what it would like here: Pfannenstiel incision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I think the line on the nose is just an attempt at shading. I don't like that sketch at all.
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    I'll try to use Paint to edit that line out tomorrow and if it comes out decent, I'll post it.

    I keep looking at the eyebrows, and how they come all the way in to the top of the bridge of the nose, the high forehead, the shape of the eyes, and the hairline - all of which look very similar to me.

    But like you said, FiveFelines, where would she have been for the 8 years in between? I suppose it's possible she was out gallivanting (sp?), she'd left her children behind before, but from the responses her children got when they inquired about her, it doesn't sound as though she was alive and well.. and that was 1958-1960, prior to this JD being found...

    Very strange.

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    I noticed another Jane Doe Found in Polk County.A county over.About a month and a half later.Both were killed very violently.Was there a serial killer around back then or were these two unidentified Jane Does related or connected some how with each other?This other Jane could also be the women mentioned here too.

    http://doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase2285.html
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    I found this article mentioning the first Jane Doe.

    http://www.policeone.com/Grants/arti...-Another-Look/
    Last edited by Ms Suzanne; 09-15-2013 at 11:14 AM. Reason: add change
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    So many people missing and not reported.

    The bathing suit is interesting to me. Like maybe she was on a boat ride with someone who then threw her overboard.

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    So with the dental chart, her top jaw was all (A): A=Antemortem loss (healed socket)
    So she may have had an upper denture? (oops - sorry, just read above she did have upper denture and plates lower)
    If so, I wonder if they searched for this where she surfaced in the water?
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