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    WV - Maxwelton, Fem (UP10517), 35-55, Below Cliff @ Old Rock Quarry, Mar'12

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    The West Virginia State Police along with the Greenbrier Sheriff's Office have begun their investigation after human remains were discovered on Saturday evening in Greenbrier County.

    http://www.wvnstv.com/story/17132860...enbrier-county
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    [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82357"]WV WV - James Johansen, 52, Greenbrier County, 13 June 2007[/ame]

    for missing Greenbrier county man.
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    UPDATE:Human remains found in Greenbrier County

    http://www.wvva.com/story/17134786/h...enbrier-county

    Posted: Mar 12, 2012 7:37 AM EDT
    By Rachel Lucas, Multi-media Journalist

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    Some speculate that the remains could be that of James Johansen

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    UPDATE: Greenbrier Co. Human Remains Taken to Smithsonian

    http://www.woay.com/News.aspx?nid=4064

    Local - 3/13/2012 5:34 PM

    UPDATE (3/13): The human remains found in Greenbrier County Saturday evening, will be sent to the Smithsonian for identification.

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    Here's the NamUs casefile for this UID:

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10517

    The remains were originally thought to be Male, but were proven by DNA to be Female.

    Age is estimated at 35-55 years old.

    There's no mandible or maxilla, so they won't be able to ID via dentals.

    But they do have partial DNA profiles, both mitochondrial and nuclear. But the profiles aren't complete, so they aren't eligible for upload to CODIS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlK90245 View Post
    Here's the NamUs casefile for this UID:

    https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10517

    The remains were originally thought to be Male, but were proven by DNA to be Female.

    Age is estimated at 35-55 years old.

    There's no mandible or maxilla, so they won't be able to ID via dentals.

    But they do have partial DNA profiles, both mitochondrial and nuclear. But the profiles aren't complete, so they aren't eligible for upload to CODIS.
    Hiya Carl,
    I keep looking for a possible match for Joann Angel, NamUS 14325. She is the right age (51) and gender, right general region of the country though several hundred miles (missing from southwestern Pa), but with no DNA, fingerprints, or dentals for her available, and only partial DNA and no dentals (and obviously no prints) for the remains found in Greenbrier County WV, there seems to be little hope for even a meaningful comparison. The remains seem to be part of a skull and perhaps some limbs.

    I did not know Joann Angel but a good friend did. She went missing in December 2011. There has been virtually nothing on her case. I know a bit more than what has been released but not much.

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    The NamUs casefile on this Jane Doe indicates a postmortem interval of "Years" before she was found. If Joann went missing in December 2011, I doubt that she would be this Jane Doe. The bones, even if they had been quickly picked clean by scavengers, would still have some moisture and would not be dried out (as I suspect these bones were).

    They probably would have drawn that conclusion on the postmortem interval based on the moisture level of the bones.

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    It was late and I missed that tidbit on the case history. You are correct, it's not Joann Angel.

    I passed through Greenbrier County last weekend, and for those not familiar with it, it would be just about the best place you ever saw to dispose of a body, other than the ocean. The terrain is so steep that no one walks on much of it, with many winding dirt or two lane roads, and a heavy tree cover in summer. In addition it has Interstate 64 running through it. IMHO this accounts for what would seem to be a relatively high number of unidentified remains relative to the population. It's frankly a convenient dumping ground.

    We don't know cause of death for this UID, and I doubt we will. Not much to go on here.

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